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I'm liberal and I care.
I care very much about the First Amendment and the right it gives us to put up signs that might be insensitive and uncaring.
You're an idiot with some real sexual issues but I would fight for your right to be the stupid and ignorant fool you are.
The real question here is, why don't you stand up for that same right for others?
This is about telling correct information, not about insensitivity and being uncaring.
Islam did not exist during Jesus time. He could not have been a Muslim when the religion did not exist.
Jesus was Jewish not Muslim.
This is about lying to the people in order to get them to become Muslims.
It is against the law to have false advertising, so should it be for Muslims to put up this false ad. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
So, christians have never lied to get the gullible to put their last dollar in the plate? They don't lie to get foolish, desperate people into the fold?
And those lies aren't protected speech?
Indeed.Perhaps we can convince some Christian or Jewish group or another to pay for a billboard to be put up alongside some well-traveled highway in Saudi Arabia, saying...
"Muhammed is a Jew"...
...or...
"Muhammed is a Christian"...
...with links to a website, so that Muslims can talk to Jewish or Christian propagandist-preachers looking to convert the Infidel.
What?
They won't allow it?
Reciprocity is the key to good relations.
Fail to provide reciprocal rights to preach and you lose that goodwill...
Oh, I'm sure some church like Westboro or Terry Jerk Off Jones would be happy to put up signs like that because they know it would result in more hate and more deaths.
And, that's what its really all about, isn't it.
The industry, lol:
"Hello, this is Frannie Future, who's calling?"
"Hi, can you tell me what's in my future? I love working out but I can't seem to focus since Becky left me. Will she come back?"
"Sure she will, and I see you owning a gym."
You said man wrote the Bible, and you asked how do we know they weren't lying about being breathed on. What I wrote proves to you they weren't lying.
Man can't write chapters using the constraints I listed above. That is God sending you a heptadic message regarding authorship. God wrote using those constraints. Man didn't write that Book. Man penned what God told them to pen. God did the rest. Right down to the (equal distant) letter.
They are depending on ignorance to promote their cause. There were no muslims for 700 years after Jesus' death.
I'll do you one better. There is no proof Jesus existed.
Do you believe that Alexander the Great existed?
Nothing was written about him until around 400 years after his death. Yet people believe that he lived.
We have 1st century writers who wrote about Jesus between 50 to 90 years after his death. Yet you believe that Jesus did not exist.
That vast majority of historical scholars believe Jesus existed.
There was no proof of Pontius Pilate existence until 1961, when the Pilate Stone was found. Yet people believed he lived throughout history.
They are depending on ignorance to promote their cause. There were no muslims for 700 years after Jesus' death.
I'll do you one better. There is no proof Jesus existed.
I'll do you one better. There is no proof Jesus existed.
Do you believe that Alexander the Great existed?
Nothing was written about him until around 400 years after his death. Yet people believe that he lived.
We have 1st century writers who wrote about Jesus between 50 to 90 years after his death. Yet you believe that Jesus did not exist.
That vast majority of historical scholars believe Jesus existed.
There was no proof of Pontius Pilate existence until 1961, when the Pilate Stone was found. Yet people believed he lived throughout history.
Dont really care if he existed or not. There is no religion controlling a large portion of the world being practiced in his name modeled on harvest fables to my knowledge.
Do you believe that Alexander the Great existed?
Nothing was written about him until around 400 years after his death. Yet people believe that he lived.
We have 1st century writers who wrote about Jesus between 50 to 90 years after his death. Yet you believe that Jesus did not exist.
That vast majority of historical scholars believe Jesus existed.
There was no proof of Pontius Pilate existence until 1961, when the Pilate Stone was found. Yet people believed he lived throughout history.
Dont really care if he existed or not. There is no religion controlling a large portion of the world being practiced in his name modeled on harvest fables to my knowledge.
Dear A:
Do you believe in principles of equal justice under natural laws or civil laws of govt?
the concept is the same which Jesus Christ represents, as the spirit of "Restorative Justice"
If you believe in any form or concept of Justice that should be enforced for all humanity,
you likely align with some denomination of Christianity that believes as you do.
We just use different laws to express parallel beliefs. The language is diverse but the universal concepts and principles are one. All humanity is governed by natural laws.
The spirit of Jesus or Justice fulfills those as "universal laws," in the same way the Christians believe with scriptural laws. Same concept, but different contexts.
They are depending on ignorance to promote their cause. There were no muslims for 700 years after Jesus' death.
The industry, lol:
"Hello, this is Frannie Future, who's calling?"
"Hi, can you tell me what's in my future? I love working out but I can't seem to focus since Becky left me. Will she come back?"
"Sure she will, and I see you owning a gym."
You said man wrote the Bible, and you asked how do we know they weren't lying about being breathed on. What I wrote proves to you they weren't lying.
Man can't write chapters using the constraints I listed above. That is God sending you a heptadic message regarding authorship. God wrote using those constraints. Man didn't write that Book. Man penned what God told them to pen. God did the rest. Right down to the (equal distant) letter.
Yes I said man wrote the Bible. Are you saying that man writing the Bible proves God made them do it? Evidently man can write chapters using the constraints you listed if it was accomplished. Just because you cant do it now doesnt prove anything other than you lack the knowledge. What makes you think otherwise?
The industry, lol:
"Hello, this is Frannie Future, who's calling?"
"Hi, can you tell me what's in my future? I love working out but I can't seem to focus since Becky left me. Will she come back?"
"Sure she will, and I see you owning a gym."
You said man wrote the Bible, and you asked how do we know they weren't lying about being breathed on. What I wrote proves to you they weren't lying.
Man can't write chapters using the constraints I listed above. That is God sending you a heptadic message regarding authorship. God wrote using those constraints. Man didn't write that Book. Man penned what God told them to pen. God did the rest. Right down to the (equal distant) letter.
Yes I said man wrote the Bible. Are you saying that man writing the Bible proves God made them do it? Evidently man can write chapters using the constraints you listed if it was accomplished. Just because you cant do it now doesnt prove anything other than you lack the knowledge. What makes you think otherwise?
But see Asc, evidence says Matthew couldn't do it. No man could do it. The criteria I posted in post # 72 that is met in Matthew would demand this of Matthew:
To write 11 verses meeting 1 of the requirements, eg the number of words that begin with a vowel must be evenly divisible by 7 with no remainder, man would have 49 wrong attempts before he got 1 right draft.
Now to comply with the next requirement; that the number of consonants must be evenly divisible by 7, you count the consonants in your verses and there are 22. Then you have to change what you wrote in your verses so the consonants do meet requirement #2.
But that means now you have just changed the number of words that begin with a vowel. You are back to square 1.
You'll do that 343 times before you get 1 draft that complies with both.
By the time you reach the 9th requirement you will have gotten 40 million attempts wrong before you get 1 set of verses that meets just 9 of the requirements, so far.... And keep in mind the verses have to make sense and be germane.
If Matthew wrote those words, and spent 10 mins. on each of those 41 million drafts, 40 hours a week, for 50 weeks a year, he would have needed 3,000 years to get 1 draft right. And that is nothing.
75 heptadic requirements are met in Mark. If Mark wasn't led by the Holy Spirit he would have gotten one right draft in
54,116,956,037,952,111,668,959,660,849 tries.
It would take one million supercomputers, composing 400 million drafts per second, over 4 million years to complete what Mark completed the first time. Evidently it seems man couldn't have done it. Which is why you can trust it.
Try it. It's like a thought problem from hell. Write a cohesive chapter of maybe 20 sentences, that meet the requirements the Holy Spirit met in Matthew and time it.
When Christ said every word was God breathed, He meant it. That book was written by someone whose thoughts are higher than ours.
Sounds exactly like lost knowledge to me.
I'm liberal and I care.
I care very much about the First Amendment and the right it gives us to put up signs that might be insensitive and uncaring.
You're an idiot with some real sexual issues but I would fight for your right to be the stupid and ignorant fool you are.
The real question here is, why don't you stand up for that same right for others?
This is about telling correct information, not about insensitivity and being uncaring.
Islam did not exist during Jesus time. He could not have been a Muslim when the religion did not exist.
Jesus was Jewish not Muslim.
This is about lying to the people in order to get them to become Muslims.
It is against the law to have false advertising, so should it be for Muslims to put up this false ad. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
So, christians have never lied to get the gullible to put their last dollar in the plate? They don't lie to get foolish, desperate people into the fold?
And those lies aren't protected speech?
Perhaps we can convince some Christian or Jewish group or another to pay for a billboard to be put up alongside some well-traveled highway in Saudi Arabia, saying...
"Muhammed is a Jew"...
...or...
"Muhammed is a Christian"...
...with links to a website, so that Muslims can talk to Jewish or Christian propagandist-preachers looking to convert the Infidel.
What?
They won't allow it?
Reciprocity is the key to good relations.
Fail to provide reciprocal rights to preach and you lose that goodwill...
