MSNBC legal analyst breaks the truth to Mourning Joe- Illegal Aliens are not owed due process

... but he still gets due process. Why does that bother you?
It doesn’t because it’s meaningless. You’re very retarded, Jackass

What actual purpose is served if he is returned just to get a hearing at the end of which he can and probably will get tossed out again?
 
From being deported to El Salvador, not from being deported.

Correct.

That's absurd. He got plenty of due process. He got exactly the ruling he asked for.

Then . . . because of an administrative error, he was deported to the wrong place.

It's an error easily fixed by having another hearing in which the immigration judge will remove that restriction on deporting him to El Salvador. Once that is done, he's in the right place. Problem solved.

The end.

Or can this never be resolved to the Democrats' satisfaction without the wife-beating, human trafficking suspected gang member being released in the U.S?

Be honest, now.

Anything short of unverifiable mail in ballots that make him President will not satisfy them.
 
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They violated their so called fue process by failing to appear and therefore earned their deportation...
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It doesn’t because it’s meaningless. You’re very retarded, Jackass

What actual purpose is served if he is returned just to get a hearing at the end of which he can and probably will get tossed out again?
Pre judging a judge's judgement, before the hearing on it, is not very wise imo.

Why have any hearing before a judge for any one... if an opinion, like yours, is all we needed?

The judge and new hearing can determine that he still not be deported to ElSalvador because it is unsafe for him. That is what matters.

He can still be deported elsewhere, if another country agrees to welcome him.
 
Pre judging a judge's judgement, before the hearing on it, is not very wise imo.
Sometimes. Sometimes the evidence (past judicial rulings and comments and behavior) make such judgments about judgments perfectly appropriate.

But that begs the real question. The real question is coming up more and more:

Does a judge even have jurisdiction to make somebody hear rulings?
Why have any hearing before a judge for any one... if an opinion, like yours, is all we needed?
Indeed. Why should judges even be entitled to hear a “case” from an illegal immigrant about a prior decision of a Border Agent? Why have a hearing at all? You seem to suggest that it’s somehow required by our Constitution.

Is it? If your answer is “yes,” is your answer based on anything IN the Constitution? What, exactly? :dunno:
The judge and new hearing can determine that he still not be deported to ElSalvador because it is unsafe for him. That is what matters.
So? The Administration already said it was a mistake. Ok. So deport him elsewhere. The mistake wasn’t in deporting him; it was permitting the deportation to send him where he shouldn’t have been sent.
He can still be deported elsewhere, if another country agrees to welcome him.
Exactly. It’s all about the where. It’s not about whether he gets a deportation (ie, an “order of removal”).
 



Cliff's Notes: Democrats and the Media are full of shit about due process and illegal aliens.


Even the Obama admin deported illegal aliens without a judicial hearing.



"The numbers are staggering: in 1995, 1,400 immigrants were subject to nonjudicial removals, representing 3 percent of total deportations. By FY 2012 that number had sharply increased to 313,000 nonjudicial removals – an all-time high.

Under today's removal system, only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge. These judges, employed by the Justice Department, are experts in immigration law. They conduct formal court hearings where they hear live witnesses, review documentary evidence, and evaluate applications for immigration relief.

By contrast, nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by the Department of Homeland Security ("DHS"), sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury. Those facing nonjudicial removal have no lawyer and no chance to appeal.

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers."


The Democrats and their gaslighting machine will just blast out another wave of Due Process disinformation. Same ol Same ol.
 
Pre judging a judge's judgement, before the hearing on it, is not very wise imo.

Why have any hearing before a judge for any one... if an opinion, like yours, is all we needed?

The judge and new hearing can determine that he still not be deported to ElSalvador because it is unsafe for him. That is what matters.

He can still be deported elsewhere, if another country agrees to welcome him.
The only way he isn’t back in El Salvador in 24 hours is because he claims to be a gang member. And that just means he goes somewhere else. We may just drop his ass in Somalia.
 
It was.

Then he'll never have it removed.

This is the lamest hill I've ever seem people willing to die on.
The administration says it wasn’t an error. Am I supposed to believe you instead?

So Garcia is going to remain imprisoned in El Salvador for life?

Garcia isnt the hill. He’s one example of the lawlessness and lack of regard for constitutional principles and civil rights from this administration.
 
The administration says it wasn’t an error. Am I supposed to believe you instead?

So Garcia is going to remain imprisoned in El Salvador for life?

Garcia isnt the hill. He’s one example of the lawlessness and lack of regard for constitutional principles and civil rights from this administration.

Nope
Cry harder as you expire on this hill.
 
The only way he isn’t back in El Salvador in 24 hours is because he claims to be a gang member. And that just means he goes somewhere else. We may just drop his ass in Somalia.
FYI- He never made claim to being a gang leader or in a rival gang, in order to get his court ordered protection from being sent back to ElSalvador.

That is just another made up lie, pushed by misinformed Trumpers.
 



Cliff's Notes: Democrats and the Media are full of shit about due process and illegal aliens.


Even the Obama admin deported illegal aliens without a judicial hearing.



"The numbers are staggering: in 1995, 1,400 immigrants were subject to nonjudicial removals, representing 3 percent of total deportations. By FY 2012 that number had sharply increased to 313,000 nonjudicial removals – an all-time high.

Under today's removal system, only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge. These judges, employed by the Justice Department, are experts in immigration law. They conduct formal court hearings where they hear live witnesses, review documentary evidence, and evaluate applications for immigration relief.

By contrast, nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by the Department of Homeland Security ("DHS"), sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury. Those facing nonjudicial removal have no lawyer and no chance to appeal.

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers."


Mourning Joe. :p

Everyone is entitled to due process.

It's just that due process differs for some people.

Due process is whatever the law says it is.

If you're a terrorist, due process is they arrest you and put you on a plane. No trial is required. That's what the law says.

If you're an ordinary illegal alien, you have 10 days to contest your deportation. That's what the law says. You may or may not get a hearing, depending on whether the Attorney General is in a good mood that day.

If you get a hearing date, consider yourself lucky. If you miss the hearing, consider yourself deported
 
You can call bullshit all you want. We already know leftards are full of bullshit, it's not surprising that some of it would come out your mouth.

If you miss your court date, the court rules against you. That's true for any court in this country, criminal or civil or administrative. Due Process is, the judge says bail revoked and bench warrant issued.
 
From being deported to El Salvador, not from being deported.

Correct.

That's absurd. He got plenty of due process. He got exactly the ruling he asked for.

Then . . . because of an administrative error, he was deported to the wrong place.

It's an error easily fixed by having another hearing in which the immigration judge will remove that restriction on deporting him to El Salvador. Once that is done, he's in the right place. Problem solved.

The end.

Or can this never be resolved to the Democrats' satisfaction without the wife-beating, human trafficking suspected gang member being released in the U.S?

Be honest, now.
Is Trump team giving him that hearing with the judge on revoking his protection from being sent to ElSalvador?? Has Trump admin said they would give him his due process with that hearing? I haven't seen them? Do you have a link? They've been fighting g the law on that, from what I've seen or read.

You need to be honest.
 
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