Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis

[Phoenall]

I could post grotesque and bloody pictures of injured children from the Gaza bombings. Does that compare?

Is it really ok to celebrate, with a picnic or a barbacue....the bombing of civilian centers in Gaza?

No actually it doesn't.

The fact is that the Arab Muslims hide behind their woman and children relishing the opportunity to show injured or dead civilians and cry about how the evil Israeli's are at fault when in fact we all know they were used as human shields.


The Arab Muslims in my picture are killing their own and dragging their corpses through the street in order to intimidate others.

There is absolutely no comparison.

Is it really ok to celebrate, with a picnic or a barbacue....the bombing of civilian centers in Gaza?

Of course not, but its nearly a universal experience, same occurred when people gathered on the white house lawn in the civil war to watch the first battle between the North and the South.

However, it in no way compared to thrusting ones own children forward into enemy fire or dragging corpses through the street.

Lets try and maintain some perspective here

Perspective tells me that it is disgusting to watch people being slaughtered and then celebrate it with a picnic or passing out candy.

It's that simple.

Perspective should also dictate the varying degrees of deviant behavior.

On a scale of one to ten, where would you put the act of watching people get bombed from a safe distance vs actually murdering someone and then mutilating the body and dragging it behind a motorcycle accompanied by a gang of like minded people

Watching military targets getting destroyed is a 1, supporting and defending the attacks on unarmed Israeli's is a 10

 

[Phoenall]

No actually it doesn't.

The fact is that the Arab Muslims hide behind their woman and children relishing the opportunity to show injured or dead civilians and cry about how the evil Israeli's are at fault when in fact we all know they were used as human shields.


The Arab Muslims in my picture are killing their own and dragging their corpses through the street in order to intimidate others.

There is absolutely no comparison.

Is it really ok to celebrate, with a picnic or a barbacue....the bombing of civilian centers in Gaza?

Of course not, but its nearly a universal experience, same occurred when people gathered on the white house lawn in the civil war to watch the first battle between the North and the South.

However, it in no way compared to thrusting ones own children forward into enemy fire or dragging corpses through the street.

Lets try and maintain some perspective here

Perspective tells me that it is disgusting to watch people being slaughtered and then celebrate it with a picnic or passing out candy.

It's that simple.

Perspective should also dictate the varying degrees of deviant behavior.

Pictures show quite a crowd enjoying the bombs.

Can't find any articles showing disgust at that.

People enjoy watching slaughter.

And I cant find any mention of a slaughter outside of the islamonazi propaganda and Jew hatred sources. And in this case the targets were purely military ones that hamas had been warned were about to be bombed.


Now want to say that you don't show an extremely unpleasant amount of Jew hatred and racism ?

 

[Phoenall]

Interesting to see what opinion polls show vs what propoganda claims. There is a big split between Gaza and West Bank and I wonder what that means for the future?

Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis, New Poll Shows
Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

But the survey, conducted by the Palestinian research institute JMCC, Jeruslem Media and Communications center earlier this month, found further that 55.9 percent of Palestinian support the current intifada, and 41 percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent. ​

Name one preemptive arrest made by someone turning in a friend or neighbor.
Just one

In regards to what? WTF are you talking about?

Terrorist related activity in Palestine ?

 

[Phoenall]

Interesting to see what opinion polls show vs what propoganda claims. There is a big split between Gaza and West Bank and I wonder what that means for the future?

Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis, New Poll Shows
Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

But the survey, conducted by the Palestinian research institute JMCC, Jeruslem Media and Communications center earlier this month, found further that 55.9 percent of Palestinian support the current intifada, and 41 percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent. ​

Name one preemptive arrest made by someone turning in a friend or neighbor.
Just one

In regards to what? WTF are you talking about?

Figures common sense would be lost to you. No Palestinian ever gets turned in because Palestinians all support terrorism.

How do you know no Palestinian gets turned in?

Because none are murdered publicly with their crime read out as a warning to others, a common practise in Palestine.

 

[Phoenall]

LOL no, read it again

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Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent.

read more: Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

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A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

Right but the interviews were conducted face to face and lets get real, how many Arab Muslims are going to admit to an Israeli interviewer they approve of terrorist acts ?

My bet is only a fraction of those who actually feel that way

No. Only a fraction of them were. The rest were by other means.

Wrong

reread the article

Also I noticed you have posted pictures of people watching the bombing and you are arguing that those pictures represent an evil just as bad as the pictures you deleated claiming they were too horrid to meet forum rules.

( My bad by the way )

However this just goes to prove that in fact there is no equivalency to the two acts.

The one you are willing to allow on the forum

The other so grotesque it required its removal.

You just proved my point beautifully. Even if I did have to risk flouting forum rules

Let me be clear on something Boston. Posting graphic pictures - dead or bloody bodies (or porn) - has certain rules associated with it. A picture of Palestinians handing out candy in celebration of another murder or Israeli's picnicing in celebration of bombing Gaza - does not break that rule. If I posted pictures of bloody gory civilian casualties from the Gaza offensive - I would be breaking the rule. Capiche?

Yet these pictures are on this board for all to see, posted by members of team palestine

 

[Lipush]

Interesting to see what opinion polls show vs what propoganda claims. There is a big split between Gaza and West Bank and I wonder what that means for the future?

Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis, New Poll Shows
Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

But the survey, conducted by the Palestinian research institute JMCC, Jeruslem Media and Communications center earlier this month, found further that 55.9 percent of Palestinian support the current intifada, and 41 percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent. ​

Most of the Palestinians wants all Israeli Jews in the sea.

No poll will change that. Period.

 

[Coyote]

LOL no, read it again

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Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent.

read more: Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

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A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

Right but the interviews were conducted face to face and lets get real, how many Arab Muslims are going to admit to an Israeli interviewer they approve of terrorist acts ?

My bet is only a fraction of those who actually feel that way

A bit like the poll taken in Europe that showed that 85% of muslims were in favour of terrorism to achieve Islamic ends and needs. But in face to face interviews the numbers dropped to 30% because they were asked on camera and did not want to be known to the authorities

If it's the poll I'm thinking of, your conclusion is deceptive. Can you link to it?

 

[Coyote]

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

Right but the interviews were conducted face to face and lets get real, how many Arab Muslims are going to admit to an Israeli interviewer they approve of terrorist acts ?

My bet is only a fraction of those who actually feel that way

No. Only a fraction of them were. The rest were by other means.

Wrong

reread the article

Also I noticed you have posted pictures of people watching the bombing and you are arguing that those pictures represent an evil just as bad as the pictures you deleated claiming they were too horrid to meet forum rules.

( My bad by the way )

However this just goes to prove that in fact there is no equivalency to the two acts.

The one you are willing to allow on the forum

The other so grotesque it required its removal.

You just proved my point beautifully. Even if I did have to risk flouting forum rules

Let me be clear on something Boston. Posting graphic pictures - dead or bloody bodies (or porn) - has certain rules associated with it. A picture of Palestinians handing out candy in celebration of another murder or Israeli's picnicing in celebration of bombing Gaza - does not break that rule. If I posted pictures of bloody gory civilian casualties from the Gaza offensive - I would be breaking the rule. Capiche?

Yet these pictures are on this board for all to see, posted by members of team palestine

If morbid or graphic images are posted - dead bodies, etc. then you need to report it. Why haven't you?

 

[Coyote]

Pictures show quite a crowd enjoying the bombs.

Can't find any articles showing disgust at that.

People enjoy watching slaughter.

So the assumption here is that half or 4/5's of the Israelis witnessing the events in Gaza believe that it is morally desirable or acceptable to target and kill innocent Gazans. That is a very large assumption.

The "assumption" is, that one side gets a free pass and the other side gets rightfully condemned.

Why would you celebrate death and murder of civilians????

 

[Coyote]

No actually it doesn't.

The fact is that the Arab Muslims hide behind their woman and children relishing the opportunity to show injured or dead civilians and cry about how the evil Israeli's are at fault when in fact we all know they were used as human shields.


The Arab Muslims in my picture are killing their own and dragging their corpses through the street in order to intimidate others.

There is absolutely no comparison.

Is it really ok to celebrate, with a picnic or a barbacue....the bombing of civilian centers in Gaza?

Of course not, but its nearly a universal experience, same occurred when people gathered on the white house lawn in the civil war to watch the first battle between the North and the South.

However, it in no way compared to thrusting ones own children forward into enemy fire or dragging corpses through the street.

Lets try and maintain some perspective here

Perspective tells me that it is disgusting to watch people being slaughtered and then celebrate it with a picnic or passing out candy.

It's that simple.

Perspective should also dictate the varying degrees of deviant behavior.

On a scale of one to ten, where would you put the act of watching people get bombed from a safe distance vs actually murdering someone and then mutilating the body and dragging it behind a motorcycle accompanied by a gang of like minded people

Watching military targets getting destroyed is a 1, supporting and defending the attacks on unarmed Israeli's is a 10

You mean watching bombs falling in densly packed civilian areas?

 

[Coyote]

Interesting to see what opinion polls show vs what propoganda claims. There is a big split between Gaza and West Bank and I wonder what that means for the future?

Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis, New Poll Shows
Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

But the survey, conducted by the Palestinian research institute JMCC, Jeruslem Media and Communications center earlier this month, found further that 55.9 percent of Palestinian support the current intifada, and 41 percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent. ​

Name one preemptive arrest made by someone turning in a friend or neighbor.
Just one

In regards to what? WTF are you talking about?

Figures common sense would be lost to you. No Palestinian ever gets turned in because Palestinians all support terrorism.

How do you know no Palestinian gets turned in?

Because none are murdered publicly with their crime read out as a warning to others, a common practise in Palestine.

In other words you do not know, you just make assumptions with no evidence to back it up.

 

[Coyote]

Is it really ok to celebrate, with a picnic or a barbacue....the bombing of civilian centers in Gaza?

Of course not, but its nearly a universal experience, same occurred when people gathered on the white house lawn in the civil war to watch the first battle between the North and the South.

However, it in no way compared to thrusting ones own children forward into enemy fire or dragging corpses through the street.

Lets try and maintain some perspective here

Perspective tells me that it is disgusting to watch people being slaughtered and then celebrate it with a picnic or passing out candy.

It's that simple.

Perspective should also dictate the varying degrees of deviant behavior.

Pictures show quite a crowd enjoying the bombs.

Can't find any articles showing disgust at that.

People enjoy watching slaughter.

And I cant find any mention of a slaughter outside of the islamonazi propaganda and Jew hatred sources. And in this case the targets were purely military ones that hamas had been warned were about to be bombed.


Now want to say that you don't show an extremely unpleasant amount of Jew hatred and racism ?

Google is your friend. Learn to use it. I linked to one picture, surely you can find them.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Name one preemptive arrest made by someone turning in a friend or neighbor.
Just one

In regards to what? WTF are you talking about?

Figures common sense would be lost to you. No Palestinian ever gets turned in because Palestinians all support terrorism.

How do you know no Palestinian gets turned in?

Because none are murdered publicly with their crime read out as a warning to others, a common practise in Palestine.

In other words you do not know, you just make assumptions with no evidence to back it up.

Self evident to all who are not antisemitic.

 

[Coyote]

Interesting to see what opinion polls show vs what propoganda claims. There is a big split between Gaza and West Bank and I wonder what that means for the future?

Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis, New Poll Shows
Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

But the survey, conducted by the Palestinian research institute JMCC, Jeruslem Media and Communications center earlier this month, found further that 55.9 percent of Palestinian support the current intifada, and 41 percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent. ​

Most of the Palestinians wants all Israeli Jews in the sea.

No poll will change that. Period.

Of course not. You believe what you believe, facts be damned.

 

[Coyote]

In regards to what? WTF are you talking about?

Figures common sense would be lost to you. No Palestinian ever gets turned in because Palestinians all support terrorism.

How do you know no Palestinian gets turned in?

Because none are murdered publicly with their crime read out as a warning to others, a common practise in Palestine.

In other words you do not know, you just make assumptions with no evidence to back it up.

Self evident to all who are not antisemitic.

Another person who can not provide facts to back up his claims. Is that common with you guys?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Figures common sense would be lost to you. No Palestinian ever gets turned in because Palestinians all support terrorism.

How do you know no Palestinian gets turned in?

Because none are murdered publicly with their crime read out as a warning to others, a common practise in Palestine.

In other words you do not know, you just make assumptions with no evidence to back it up.

Self evident to all who are not antisemitic.

Another person who can not provide facts to back up his claims. Is that common with you guys?

It's a fact because it's zero. You go to any Palestinian news source and find us one story of an attempted terrorist attacker thwarted by a Palestinian blowing the whistle.
Just one event. Just one.
And while you're at it, tell us how many thousands of missiles have been fired at Israeli civilians - a direct violation of the Geneva Conventions- from Palestinian civilian areas.

 

[Coyote]

How do you know no Palestinian gets turned in?

Because none are murdered publicly with their crime read out as a warning to others, a common practise in Palestine.

In other words you do not know, you just make assumptions with no evidence to back it up.

Self evident to all who are not antisemitic.

Another person who can not provide facts to back up his claims. Is that common with you guys?

It's a fact because it's zero. You go to any Palestinian news source and find us one story of an attempted terrorist attacker thwarted by a Palestinian blowing the whistle.
Just one event. Just one.
And while you're at it, tell us how many thousands of missiles have been fired at Israeli civilians - a direct violation of the Geneva Conventions- from Palestinian civilian areas.

You made the claim, it's your job to prove it.

Note - I have never disputed the fact that rockets have been fired at Israeli civilians nor have I disputed Israel's right to defend itself.

My point is that it is obscene to celebrate with something like a picnic and binoculars, what is inevitably going to be causing the death and serious injury of thousands of civilians including children no matter how well calibrated. Is that truly something to celebrate and if so, how is it any different than the Paletinians celebrating slaughter? It's all grotesque.

 

[Boston1]

Pictures show quite a crowd enjoying the bombs.

Can't find any articles showing disgust at that.

People enjoy watching slaughter.

So the assumption here is that half or 4/5's of the Israelis witnessing the events in Gaza believe that it is morally desirable or acceptable to target and kill innocent Gazans. That is a very large assumption.

The "assumption" is, that one side gets a free pass and the other side gets rightfully condemned.

Why would you celebrate death and murder of civilians????

No, there is no assumption, the fact is that one side slaughters even its own, stabs pregnant woman in the streets, drags corpses around behind motorcycles, desecrates bodies and parades their dead victims through the streets. The other side conducts war according to the international laws of war.

Again its a no brainer, there is no equivalency

 

[Shusha]

The "assumption" is, that one side gets a free pass and the other side gets rightfully condemned.

The problem is in creating a false equivalency between the widespread ideology that targeting and killing innocent non-combatants (including your own) is desirable or acceptable and the ideology of the tragic necessity of a defensive war in which non-combatants are protected to an unprecedented extent even when they are intentionally used as human shields.

There is no moral equivalency between a culture which believes that suicide bombings and now suicide stabbings are the moral high ground and a "noble sacrifice" while performing Allah's work of ridding the world of Jews and a culture which releases hundreds of murderers from prison in order to save ONE man, because that one life has so much value.

There is no moral equivalency between the ideology of genocide against another people and the need for safety and security for your own people.

And the attempt of trying to force such a moral equivalency is repugnant.

 

[Coyote]

The "assumption" is, that one side gets a free pass and the other side gets rightfully condemned.

The problem is in creating a false equivalency between the widespread ideology that targeting and killing innocent non-combatants (including your own) is desirable or acceptable and the ideology of the tragic necessity of a defensive war in which non-combatants are protected to an unprecedented extent even when they are intentionally used as human shields.

There is no moral equivalency between a culture which believes that suicide bombings and now suicide stabbings are the moral high ground and a "noble sacrifice" while performing Allah's work of ridding the world of Jews and a culture which releases hundreds of murderers from prison in order to save ONE man, because that one life has so much value.

There is no moral equivalency between the ideology of genocide against another people and the need for safety and security for your own people.

And the attempt of trying to force such a moral equivalency is repugnant.

In other words you can't condemn it.