Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis

Note - I have never disputed the fact that rockets have been fired at Israeli civilians nor have I disputed Israel's right to defend itself.

Perhaps not "disputed", but you certainly question the moral acceptability of Israel defending itself. In fact, you appear to actively vilify Israel for defending itself and for Israeli citizens to witness Israel defending itself. You did it in the post immediately above this one where you wrote:
You mean watching bombs falling in densly packed civilian areas?

How can you claim to support Israeli's right to defend itself, while also condemning her for defending herself? You make the assumption that Israelis "enjoy" watching innocent civilians die -- an assumption entirely without merit -- and yet claim that she has every right to defend herself.

The right to defend yourself is not equivalent to the deliberate murder of innocent people.
 
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My point is that it is obscene to celebrate with something like a picnic and binoculars, what is inevitably going to be causing the death and serious injury of thousands of civilians including children no matter how well calibrated. Is that truly something to celebrate and if so, how is it any different than the Paletinians celebrating slaughter? It's all grotesque.

Do you know what is something to celebrate? The idea, that maybe, just maybe, my children can sleep tonight without hearing the sirens go off and having to run to the bomb shelter. That maybe, just maybe, my children can grow up in a world where people aren't trying to kill them, because of who they are. And that maybe, just maybe, a hundred years from now, or a thousand, the Jewish people can live among the nations and exist in the world without persecution and pogroms and genocides.

That is the difference between the Jewish ideology and "Ding, dong, the Jews are dead; which ol' Jews? The wicked Jews! Ding dong, the wicked Jews are dead!"
 
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In other words you can't condemn it.

I absolutely condemn your making assumptions that the Israeli people watching the conflict believe that it is morally desirable or acceptable to target and kill innocent civilians.

I absolutely condemn the belief that targeting and killing innocent people is morally correct. I absolutely condemn the ideology of half of the Palestinians and 4/5's of the Gazans. And if you can find me a handful of Israelis who hold that ideology I will condemn it from them as well. And furthermore, I will take responsibility for them and hold it upon myself to correct their beliefs.

So now I ask you, why do you post a thread which, at its core, suggests that Gazans are not so bad after all since only 80% of them believe its okay to murder Jews in cold blood and suggests that Palestinians are really not so bad after all, since only half of them want to murder Jews in cold blood and then follow it up with. "oh, and look how bad the Israelis are!"

Instead of a post acknowledging that a culture which strongly supports the murder of innocents is something to be condemned and corrected.
 
Note - I have never disputed the fact that rockets have been fired at Israeli civilians nor have I disputed Israel's right to defend itself.

Perhaps not "disputed", but you certainly question the moral acceptability of Israel defending itself. In fact, you appear to actively vilify Israel for defending itself and for Israeli citizens to witness Israel defending itself.

Woah. The fact that Israel has the right to defend itself doesn't mean that right is unlimited or unconditional - at least ethically. Israel shouldn't be expected to stand by and allow rockets to be flung inside it's borders, but does that mean Israel should nuke Gaza? (yes, that's an extreme example, but it's to make a point).

Does the fact that Israel has a right to defend itself exempt it from any criticism of what it does?

You did it in the post immediately above this one where you wrote:
You mean watching bombs falling in densly packed civilian areas?

How often do we hear about Palestinians celebrating death, Palestinians being full of hate, Palestinians passing out candy when a terrorist act happens, their text books are full of hatred and calls for violence, how often do we see the same recycled pictures of kids dressed as bombers etc etc in an effort to create such an overwelming narrative that the Palestinians are utterly marginalized. It's a powerful meme.

Yet - when someone shows a picture of Israeli children writing on bombs that will then be shot into Gaza or Israeli families celebrating the bombing of Gaza - or Israeli children playing with guns and dressing as soldiers, it suddenly becomes a different situation. It's justified, excused, or unfailingly - someone yells "false moral equivalency", the ultimate way of shutting down the topic and maintaining the narrative that Palestinians are the source of all evil and there can be no comparison or even a hint of criticism.

How can you claim to support Israeli's right to defend itself, while also condemning her for defending herself? You make the assumption that Israelis "enjoy" watching innocent civilians die -- an assumption entirely without merit -- and yet claim that she has every right to defend herself.

The right to defend yourself is not equivalent to the deliberate murder of innocent people.

If you are watching bombs falling into a densely packed urban area, you damn well know that non-combatents are going to be killed, particularly children. If you are watching white phospherous trails and have been in the military, I'm sure you know what the effects are on human skin.

The U.S. used napalm in Vietnam war, and there are horrible iconic photographs from it....people running and burning.
Should Americans have been cheering over it? Having a picnic and clapping at each successful hit?

Is it EVER acceptable to cheer bombs falling, while hidden out of sight, the deaths of innocent civilians under those bombs? Or is it a grotesque mockery? There is a difference between celebrating with an uncaring attitude exempified in an atmosphere resembling a tailgate and accepting that what is being done, while horrible is absolutely necessary. Maybe it's the utter banality of it, the indifference towards what's happening beneath the bombs that is grotesque.

That is the similarity and the difference. In one, there is the celebration in the murder of "the enemy" (Palestinians killing Israeli civilians) in the utter, the callous indifference towards the death of "enemy" civilians (Israeli's picnicing and watching bombs).
 
In other words you can't condemn it.

I absolutely condemn your making assumptions that the Israeli people watching the conflict believe that it is morally desirable or acceptable to target and kill innocent civilians.

I absolutely condemn the belief that targeting and killing innocent people is morally correct. I absolutely condemn the ideology of half of the Palestinians and 4/5's of the Gazans. And if you can find me a handful of Israelis who hold that ideology I will condemn it from them as well. And furthermore, I will take responsibility for them and hold it upon myself to correct their beliefs.

So now I ask you, why do you post a thread which, at its core, suggests that Gazans are not so bad after all since only 80% of them believe its okay to murder Jews in cold blood and suggests that Palestinians are really not so bad after all, since only half of them want to murder Jews in cold blood and then follow it up with. "oh, and look how bad the Israelis are!"

Instead of a post acknowledging that a culture which strongly supports the murder of innocents is something to be condemned and corrected.

Yet you will not or can not condemn people celebrating the deaths of innocent people.

That is how one sided these arguments are.

You are not allowed to criticize Israel's behavior.
 
My point is that it is obscene to celebrate with something like a picnic and binoculars, what is inevitably going to be causing the death and serious injury of thousands of civilians including children no matter how well calibrated. Is that truly something to celebrate and if so, how is it any different than the Paletinians celebrating slaughter? It's all grotesque.

Do you know what is something to celebrate? The idea, that maybe, just maybe, my children can sleep tonight without hearing the sirens go off and having to run to the bomb shelter. That maybe, just maybe, my children can grow up in a world where people aren't trying to kill them, because of who they are. And that maybe, just maybe, a hundred years from now, or a thousand, the Jewish people can live among the nations and exist in the world without persecution and pogroms and genocides.

That is the difference between the Jewish ideology and "Ding, dong, the Jews are dead; which ol' Jews? The wicked Jews! Ding dong, the wicked Jews are dead!"


The Palestinians are human beings too. They aren't just generic packages full of hate.

Celebrating death is still celebrating death. It's just excusable when it comes from Israeli's.
 
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Excusable.

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Inexcusable.





4...3...2...1....FALSE EQUIVALENCY!
 
Celebrating death of innocents is grotesque no matter who does it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/w...s-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html?_r=0

The image of the Israeli spectators was taken after 9 p.m. local time on Wednesday, the reporter said, about the same time that what was intended to be a “precision strike” from Israel’s military killed at least eight of their Palestinian neighbors, seated in similar plastic chairs at a beachside cafe in Gaza, waiting to watch the World Cup semifinal between Argentina and the Netherlands.

As his image reverberated around the social network, where it was shared more than 10,000 times, the reporter was surprised by the response. It was, he said in a telephone interview from Israel, “nothing new.” Similar scenes, of Israeli spectators gathered on the high ground above Gaza to view the destruction below, were documented in a Times of London article and a video report from Denmark’s TV2 during Operation Cast Lead in 2009.

Explaining that he has also previously witnessed Palestinians cheering news of bombings that killed Israelis, Mr. Sorensen said that in a war, “this is what happens.” Civilians and fighters on both sides, he said, “go through a process of dehumanizing the enemy.”
 
Note - I have never disputed the fact that rockets have been fired at Israeli civilians nor have I disputed Israel's right to defend itself.

Perhaps not "disputed", but you certainly question the moral acceptability of Israel defending itself. In fact, you appear to actively vilify Israel for defending itself and for Israeli citizens to witness Israel defending itself.

Woah. The fact that Israel has the right to defend itself doesn't mean that right is unlimited or unconditional - at least ethically. Israel shouldn't be expected to stand by and allow rockets to be flung inside it's borders, but does that mean Israel should nuke Gaza? (yes, that's an extreme example, but it's to make a point).

Does the fact that Israel has a right to defend itself exempt it from any criticism of what it does?

You did it in the post immediately above this one where you wrote:
You mean watching bombs falling in densly packed civilian areas?

How often do we hear about Palestinians celebrating death, Palestinians being full of hate, Palestinians passing out candy when a terrorist act happens, their text books are full of hatred and calls for violence, how often do we see the same recycled pictures of kids dressed as bombers etc etc in an effort to create such an overwelming narrative that the Palestinians are utterly marginalized. It's a powerful meme.

Yet - when someone shows a picture of Israeli children writing on bombs that will then be shot into Gaza or Israeli families celebrating the bombing of Gaza - or Israeli children playing with guns and dressing as soldiers, it suddenly becomes a different situation. It's justified, excused, or unfailingly - someone yells "false moral equivalency", the ultimate way of shutting down the topic and maintaining the narrative that Palestinians are the source of all evil and there can be no comparison or even a hint of criticism.

How can you claim to support Israeli's right to defend itself, while also condemning her for defending herself? You make the assumption that Israelis "enjoy" watching innocent civilians die -- an assumption entirely without merit -- and yet claim that she has every right to defend herself.

The right to defend yourself is not equivalent to the deliberate murder of innocent people.

If you are watching bombs falling into a densely packed urban area, you damn well know that non-combatents are going to be killed, particularly children. If you are watching white phospherous trails and have been in the military, I'm sure you know what the effects are on human skin.

The U.S. used napalm in Vietnam war, and there are horrible iconic photographs from it....people running and burning.
Should Americans have been cheering over it? Having a picnic and clapping at each successful hit?

Is it EVER acceptable to cheer bombs falling, while hidden out of sight, the deaths of innocent civilians under those bombs? Or is it a grotesque mockery? There is a difference between celebrating with an uncaring attitude exempified in an atmosphere resembling a tailgate and accepting that what is being done, while horrible is absolutely necessary. Maybe it's the utter banality of it, the indifference towards what's happening beneath the bombs that is grotesque.

That is the similarity and the difference. In one, there is the celebration in the murder of "the enemy" (Palestinians killing Israeli civilians) in the utter, the callous indifference towards the death of "enemy" civilians (Israeli's picnicing and watching bombs).

Police any where that are armed have a right to shoot any person with a weapon.
You think they should use knives against knives and rocks against rocks? That would be laughable in any country.
Palestinians attacks are illegal and police will use force to stop them. Palestinians kill Israelis and the police do what is necessary to prevent or limit damage, by any means.

Daily attacks you want Israel to be soft on palestinians who are out to kill?
 
Note - I have never disputed the fact that rockets have been fired at Israeli civilians nor have I disputed Israel's right to defend itself.

Perhaps not "disputed", but you certainly question the moral acceptability of Israel defending itself. In fact, you appear to actively vilify Israel for defending itself and for Israeli citizens to witness Israel defending itself.

Woah. The fact that Israel has the right to defend itself doesn't mean that right is unlimited or unconditional - at least ethically. Israel shouldn't be expected to stand by and allow rockets to be flung inside it's borders, but does that mean Israel should nuke Gaza? (yes, that's an extreme example, but it's to make a point).

Does the fact that Israel has a right to defend itself exempt it from any criticism of what it does?

You did it in the post immediately above this one where you wrote:
You mean watching bombs falling in densly packed civilian areas?

How often do we hear about Palestinians celebrating death, Palestinians being full of hate, Palestinians passing out candy when a terrorist act happens, their text books are full of hatred and calls for violence, how often do we see the same recycled pictures of kids dressed as bombers etc etc in an effort to create such an overwelming narrative that the Palestinians are utterly marginalized. It's a powerful meme.

Yet - when someone shows a picture of Israeli children writing on bombs that will then be shot into Gaza or Israeli families celebrating the bombing of Gaza - or Israeli children playing with guns and dressing as soldiers, it suddenly becomes a different situation. It's justified, excused, or unfailingly - someone yells "false moral equivalency", the ultimate way of shutting down the topic and maintaining the narrative that Palestinians are the source of all evil and there can be no comparison or even a hint of criticism.

How can you claim to support Israeli's right to defend itself, while also condemning her for defending herself? You make the assumption that Israelis "enjoy" watching innocent civilians die -- an assumption entirely without merit -- and yet claim that she has every right to defend herself.

The right to defend yourself is not equivalent to the deliberate murder of innocent people.

If you are watching bombs falling into a densely packed urban area, you damn well know that non-combatents are going to be killed, particularly children. If you are watching white phospherous trails and have been in the military, I'm sure you know what the effects are on human skin.

The U.S. used napalm in Vietnam war, and there are horrible iconic photographs from it....people running and burning.
Should Americans have been cheering over it? Having a picnic and clapping at each successful hit?

Is it EVER acceptable to cheer bombs falling, while hidden out of sight, the deaths of innocent civilians under those bombs? Or is it a grotesque mockery? There is a difference between celebrating with an uncaring attitude exempified in an atmosphere resembling a tailgate and accepting that what is being done, while horrible is absolutely necessary. Maybe it's the utter banality of it, the indifference towards what's happening beneath the bombs that is grotesque.

That is the similarity and the difference. In one, there is the celebration in the murder of "the enemy" (Palestinians killing Israeli civilians) in the utter, the callous indifference towards the death of "enemy" civilians (Israeli's picnicing and watching bombs).

Interesting how the focus of your argument lies in justifying your criticism of Israel in its self defense, rather than your condemnation of the acts against Israel which necessitate that defense.

You ignore the stabbing of pregnant woman but you're very quick to condemn Israel when a terrorists ploy to place a child in harms way succeeds and Israel wastes time and money striking a human shield.

Sorry but its not very convincing. Looks like racism, and bias.
 
Yet you will not or can not condemn people celebrating the deaths of innocent people.

That is how one sided these arguments are.

You are not allowed to criticize Israel's behavior.

I'm sorry, what, exactly, is it that you want me to condemn that I have not already most strongly condemned? Shall I say it again?

Here goes:

IF ANY Israeli desires, condones, applauds, cheers, celebrates or otherwise approves of the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilian non-combatants I most loudly and firmly condemn that belief system. IF I EVER hear any Israeli or Jew suggest that the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilian non-combatants is in anyway desirable or acceptable I will most loudly and publicly condemn that belief system to their faces.

Are we clear?
 
Woah. The fact that Israel has the right to defend itself doesn't mean that right is unlimited or unconditional - at least ethically. Israel shouldn't be expected to stand by and allow rockets to be flung inside it's borders, but does that mean Israel should nuke Gaza? (yes, that's an extreme example, but it's to make a point).

Wait, what? Who is making the claim that Israel's right to defend itself is unlimited and unconditional? Certainly not me. Who is making the claim that Israel should nuke Gaza? Certainly not me.

Are we to judge and criticize Israel for things she has not done? Are we to judge and criticize Israel's citizens for things they do not, in fact, believe. Jeez. 'Cause that seems reasonable.

You posted a poll which states that 1/2 and 4/5's of Palestinians and Gazans, respectively, believe it is desirable or acceptable to intentionally target and murder innocent civilian non-combatants. When I suggested that this was kinda scary and not-so-cool you went on to create a false equivalency, with absolutely no factual information to back it up, that Israelis ALSO believe it is desirable or acceptable to intentionally target and murder innocent civilian non-combatants.

I'm calling bullshit. I'm calling bullshit on the facts and lack of evidence of facts to your claim. AND I'm calling bullshit on the motivations behind your claim to equivalency. There is an almost pathological need to make Israel out to be as bad or worse than the Palestinians and the Gazans. Its projection.


How often do we hear about Palestinians celebrating death, Palestinians being full of hate, Palestinians passing out candy when a terrorist act happens, their text books are full of hatred and calls for violence, how often do we see the same recycled pictures of kids dressed as bombers etc etc in an effort to create such an overwelming narrative that the Palestinians are utterly marginalized. It's a powerful meme.

We hear about it a lot. And, according to the information you provided in your poll, the reason we hear about it a lot is that A LOT of Palestinians and Gazans believe it. A lot of Palestinians and an terrifyingly large portion of Gazans believe that its desirable to kill innocent Jewish civilians. Its a morally corrupt and repugnant ideology.

Yet - when someone shows a picture of Israeli children writing on bombs that will then be shot into Gaza or Israeli families celebrating the bombing of Gaza - or Israeli children playing with guns and dressing as soldiers, it suddenly becomes a different situation. It's justified, excused, or unfailingly - someone yells "false moral equivalency", ...

Because, as I have already explained, the ideology is vastly different. Hugely different. Insanely, radically different. As demonstrated in the poll which you used to begin this thread. You are projecting a false ideology onto the Israeli culture which does not exist. Again, there is a vast moral difference between wanting your children, and your nation and your culture to be protected and safe and defended and thinking its a good thing to go around stabbing Jews.


There is a difference between celebrating with an uncaring attitude exempified in an atmosphere resembling a tailgate and accepting that what is being done, while horrible is absolutely necessary.

AND there is a difference between condoning the murder of innocents and accepting that what is to be done, while horrible and tragic, is necessary. THAT is the difference in ideology. Right there. And you have no idea whatsoever how many of those watching condone the murder of innocents rather than just wanting their children to be safe.
 
Woah. The fact that Israel has the right to defend itself doesn't mean that right is unlimited or unconditional - at least ethically. Israel shouldn't be expected to stand by and allow rockets to be flung inside it's borders, but does that mean Israel should nuke Gaza? (yes, that's an extreme example, but it's to make a point).

Wait, what? Who is making the claim that Israel's right to defend itself is unlimited and unconditional? Certainly not me. Who is making the claim that Israel should nuke Gaza? Certainly not me.

Are we to judge and criticize Israel for things she has not done? Are we to judge and criticize Israel's citizens for things they do not, in fact, believe. Jeez. 'Cause that seems reasonable.

You posted a poll which states that 1/2 and 4/5's of Palestinians and Gazans, respectively, believe it is desirable or acceptable to intentionally target and murder innocent civilian non-combatants. When I suggested that this was kinda scary and not-so-cool you went on to create a false equivalency, with absolutely no factual information to back it up, that Israelis ALSO believe it is desirable or acceptable to intentionally target and murder innocent civilian non-combatants.

I'm calling bullshit. I'm calling bullshit on the facts and lack of evidence of facts to your claim. AND I'm calling bullshit on the motivations behind your claim to equivalency. There is an almost pathological need to make Israel out to be as bad or worse than the Palestinians and the Gazans. Its projection.


How often do we hear about Palestinians celebrating death, Palestinians being full of hate, Palestinians passing out candy when a terrorist act happens, their text books are full of hatred and calls for violence, how often do we see the same recycled pictures of kids dressed as bombers etc etc in an effort to create such an overwelming narrative that the Palestinians are utterly marginalized. It's a powerful meme.

We hear about it a lot. And, according to the information you provided in your poll, the reason we hear about it a lot is that A LOT of Palestinians and Gazans believe it. A lot of Palestinians and an terrifyingly large portion of Gazans believe that its desirable to kill innocent Jewish civilians. Its a morally corrupt and repugnant ideology.

Yet - when someone shows a picture of Israeli children writing on bombs that will then be shot into Gaza or Israeli families celebrating the bombing of Gaza - or Israeli children playing with guns and dressing as soldiers, it suddenly becomes a different situation. It's justified, excused, or unfailingly - someone yells "false moral equivalency", ...

Because, as I have already explained, the ideology is vastly different. Hugely different. Insanely, radically different. As demonstrated in the poll which you used to begin this thread. You are projecting a false ideology onto the Israeli culture which does not exist. Again, there is a vast moral difference between wanting your children, and your nation and your culture to be protected and safe and defended and thinking its a good thing to go around stabbing Jews.


There is a difference between celebrating with an uncaring attitude exempified in an atmosphere resembling a tailgate and accepting that what is being done, while horrible is absolutely necessary.

AND there is a difference between condoning the murder of innocents and accepting that what is to be done, while horrible and tragic, is necessary. THAT is the difference in ideology. Right there. And you have no idea whatsoever how many of those watching condone the murder of innocents rather than just wanting their children to be safe.

The poll likely depicts low numbers as it was conducted face to face rather than anonymously. While the poll isn't clear who the interviewers where, given that this line of questioning would unlikely to come up among Arab Muslims, its reasonable to assume it was Israeli's asking the questions and that fact alone likely skewed the results.

Israel's right to defend itself is, as any other nations, expected to follow given protocols. Which are of course spelled out in the Geneva Conventions.

The Arab Muslims on the other hand commit one atrocity after another and then point at the Israeli's

And some people actually buy into it.

I say Israel abandon the high road and simply follow the typical protocols any other nation would given the same circumstances.

Otherwise its an endless series of tit for tat encounters.

Israel seriously needs to follow international law and throw the enemy combatants out of the country. Anex the whole of Israel and welcome the remaining peaceful Arabs in as full citizens assuming they remain peaceful.
 
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Interesting how the focus of your argument lies in justifying your criticism of Israel in its self defense, rather than your condemnation of the acts against Israel which necessitate that defense.

Yes. This.
 
Interesting to see what opinion polls show vs what propoganda claims. There is a big split between Gaza and West Bank and I wonder what that means for the future?

Most Palestinians in West Bank Oppose Stabbing Attacks on Israelis, New Poll Shows
Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

But the survey, conducted by the Palestinian research institute JMCC, Jeruslem Media and Communications center earlier this month, found further that 55.9 percent of Palestinian support the current intifada, and 41 percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

percent were opposed. The data didn't get into what form of protest Palestinians preferred to the stabbings.

Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent.

Most of the Palestinians wants all Israeli Jews in the sea.

No poll will change that. Period.

Of course not. You believe what you believe, facts be damned.


Facts are that Israelis get stabbed every day. Fact that you want to turn Palestinians into cute teddy bears may fool outsiders, but never us Israelis.

We have a saying in Hebrew, 'Yode'a tzaddik nefesh behemato', "Knows a righteous the soul of his cattle".

We know what we're dealing with, here.
 
LOL no, read it again

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Of 1,200 Palestinians above 18 questioned in face-to-face interviews, 69 percent said they still supported a two state solution, with 24.8 percent calling for a single state, but with full equality. The average age of respondents was 38, and the poll had a margin of error of three percent.

read more: Most Palestinians in West Bank oppose stabbing attacks on Israelis, new poll shows - Israel News

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A survey has found a sharp split between Gaza and the West Bank over the latest wave of violence with Israel, with 79 percent in Gaza backing the stabbing attacks on Israelis, compared to 54 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank who oppose them.

Right but the interviews were conducted face to face and lets get real, how many Arab Muslims are going to admit to an Israeli interviewer they approve of terrorist acts ?

My bet is only a fraction of those who actually feel that way






A bit like the poll taken in Europe that showed that 85% of muslims were in favour of terrorism to achieve Islamic ends and needs. But in face to face interviews the numbers dropped to 30% because they were asked on camera and did not want to be known to the authorities


If it's the poll I'm thinking of, your conclusion is deceptive. Can you link to it?






Cant find it now but this is interesting



Islamic Statistics on violence, rape, terror, sharia, isis, and welfare
 
Right but the interviews were conducted face to face and lets get real, how many Arab Muslims are going to admit to an Israeli interviewer they approve of terrorist acts ?

My bet is only a fraction of those who actually feel that way

No. Only a fraction of them were. The rest were by other means.

Wrong

reread the article

Also I noticed you have posted pictures of people watching the bombing and you are arguing that those pictures represent an evil just as bad as the pictures you deleated claiming they were too horrid to meet forum rules.

( My bad by the way )

However this just goes to prove that in fact there is no equivalency to the two acts.

The one you are willing to allow on the forum

The other so grotesque it required its removal.

You just proved my point beautifully. Even if I did have to risk flouting forum rules

Let me be clear on something Boston. Posting graphic pictures - dead or bloody bodies (or porn) - has certain rules associated with it. A picture of Palestinians handing out candy in celebration of another murder or Israeli's picnicing in celebration of bombing Gaza - does not break that rule. If I posted pictures of bloody gory civilian casualties from the Gaza offensive - I would be breaking the rule. Capiche?






Yet these pictures are on this board for all to see, posted by members of team palestine

If morbid or graphic images are posted - dead bodies, etc. then you need to report it. Why haven't you?






Because it does no good, the poster just repeats the same posts time and time again under American laws.

I wonder why that is ?
 
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