Mosque On Ground Zero. An Act Of Aggression: Yea Or Nay?

[Zona]

You lying little sack of shit. Post a SINGLE ******* link to ANY post of mine in which I have mentioned your dick, other than multiple requests from me towards you to prove I have talked about your dick. It's never happened.

******* little lair bertturd

Gee ConHog, you just told me I jerk it to the muppets. While in the same post that you talk about my sex life. Pretty sure that qualifies.

From a guy who's all over Yurt for talking about Mani's, you sure seem to be mentioning mine one way or another or my sex life on here often enough.

For all I know you jerk your clit dumbshit. And besides that when a man says another man is talking bout his cock, that is usually an oblique reference to that guy being gay. Posting about you jerking off is not talking about your cock, let alone making gay comments about your cock.

now go blow yourself.

Wow Conhog, did you learn all this getting that useless history degree (sorry, degree's) or when you got your useless library science degree?

(People, he actually bragged he had these degree's....lolololol)

Better question, after you got all that learnin and a schoolin and your all book smart and stuff, is that why you said what I quoted you saying below?

History degree and library science....LOLOLOLOLOLOL (and I remember you actually being proud of this...) Oh dear god.

 

[goldcatt]

That's not what I contend at all. I do contend that the Muslims building this mosque are not responsible for 9/11, however.

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

Exactly.

 

[WillowTree]

Actually it's not a case at all, since there's been no crime.

So now you contend that 9/11 wasn't a crime. How special.

BUT for record, not all cases are about crimes, hence civil court. DOH!!!

That's not what I contend at all. I do contend that the Muslims building this mosque are not responsible for 9/11, however.

and you know this to be true how exactly?

 

[WillowTree]

That's not what I contend at all. I do contend that the Muslims building this mosque are not responsible for 9/11, however.

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

and you know this how exactly?

 

[WillowTree]

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

Exactly.

How exactly?

 

[ConHog]

That's not what I contend at all. I do contend that the Muslims building this mosque are not responsible for 9/11, however.

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

So now you contend that 9/11 wasn't a crime. How special.

BUT for record, not all cases are about crimes, hence civil court. DOH!!!

That's not what I contend at all. I do contend that the Muslims building this mosque are not responsible for 9/11, however.

and you know this to be true how exactly?

How do you know it's not?

It's unbecoming to demand answers when you won't give any yourself.

 

[Charles_Main]

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

and you know this how exactly?

Because he just knows we are all racist Muslim hating Fear mongers of course.

It is only natural considering what happened on 9/11 and that a radical Form of Islam was behind it. That people would find such a High Profile Mosque so close, on the site of a building that was actually Hit by part of one of the planes. A little troublesome. Move it a few blocks away and you would see the Opposition crumble, and those left would be the Fear Mongering Muslim Haters.

 

[WillowTree]

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

Well, I'm just sure that all you freaks would agree that if Nine Americans flew four jets into mosques in Saudi Arabia, it would be perfectly fine to replace them with four Christian churches and **** what the msulims think.. If they get offended it says a lot more about them than it does the Americans. Do I have an understanding here? Thank You.

 

[ConHog]

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

Well, I'm just sure that all you freaks would agree that if Nine Americans flew four jets into mosques in Saudi Arabia, it would be perfectly fine to replace them with four Christian churches and **** what the msulims think.. If they get offended it says a lot more about them than it does the Americans. Do I have an understanding here? Thank You.

Why did you quote me? I agree that it is offensive. The ONLY issue i disagree with you on is that I don't think that it is likely that these muslims were involved in 9/11 while you seem to think it is likely. I disagree but don't think that makes you crazy. just nervous and justifiably so.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Thank you for the clarification, and I do NOT contend that the Muslims building this mosque are responsible for 9/11. I do however contend that they are being beyond insensitive by talking about building this mosque in light of the fact that 80% of Americans find it offensive.

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

I guess I'm loony, then. I don't believe in the tyranny of the majority, and don't believe these Muslims should move their mosque just because a large group of people want to hold all Muslims responsible for the crimes of other Muslims.

However, if it were me I'd probably try to find another location for my mosque. The controversy really isn't worth dealing with in my opinion.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

Well, I'm just sure that all you freaks would agree that if Nine Americans flew four jets into mosques in Saudi Arabia, it would be perfectly fine to replace them with four Christian churches and **** what the msulims think.. If they get offended it says a lot more about them than it does the Americans. Do I have an understanding here? Thank You.

You do have an understanding. But why should we emulate the intolerance of other nations?

 

[goldcatt]

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

Exactly.

How exactly?

Because it shows the very natural and human need to find a bogeyman.

If you'd read my previous posts, you'd know I sympathize with those who feel this would be a constant reminder, and I can even understand those who feel it's an affront of some sort. But what we stand for and our principles, and more importantly staying who we are and adhering to those principles instead of allowing the terrorists to take that away from us, are more important than being PC.

Maybe instead of attacking all Muslims and each other it's time all these years later to finally have an actual dialogue about who we are and where we want to go from here, don't you think?

 

[Charles_Main]

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

Well, I'm just sure that all you freaks would agree that if Nine Americans flew four jets into mosques in Saudi Arabia, it would be perfectly fine to replace them with four Christian churches and **** what the msulims think.. If they get offended it says a lot more about them than it does the Americans. Do I have an understanding here? Thank You.

Why did you quote me? I agree that it is offensive. The ONLY issue i disagree with you on is that I don't think that it is likely that these muslims were involved in 9/11 while you seem to think it is likely. I disagree but don't think that makes you crazy. just nervous and justifiably so.

I think all this arguing about who is behind it is pointless. I think it is an undeniable fact that no matter how good the intentions of the people Pushing for this. It will be unavoidably seen as a sign of Victory by those Muslims who are Radical and want to do us harm. I think it will be a beacon calling to them, a sort a second mecca for the Radicals. A place to go worship at the site where their Brothers killed so many of the infidel.

That is why I oppose it.

I also on a person level have a problem with any Muslim Preaching to us about Tolerance and Freedom of Religion. Considering how much of the Muslim world lives under intolerant Systems who Oppress any other religion and their own people.

I kinda likes what Newt said about it. Maybe a bit unreasonable but it does illustrate the problem.

"Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City. Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia. In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca."

 

[ConHog]

I know you don't, though it would seem WillowTree does.

As for 80% of Americans finding this offensive, that says more about them than it does those who are building it.

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

I guess I'm loony, then. I don't believe in the tyranny of the majority, and don't believe these Muslims should move their mosque just because a large group of people want to hold all Muslims responsible for the crimes of other Muslims.

However, if it were me I'd probably try to find another location for my mosque. The controversy really isn't worth dealing with in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

That is just another way of saying. I wouldn't build it here because I wouldn't want everyone pissed at me. So welcome to the middle ground.

 

[ConHog]

Well, I'm just sure that all you freaks would agree that if Nine Americans flew four jets into mosques in Saudi Arabia, it would be perfectly fine to replace them with four Christian churches and **** what the msulims think.. If they get offended it says a lot more about them than it does the Americans. Do I have an understanding here? Thank You.

Why did you quote me? I agree that it is offensive. The ONLY issue i disagree with you on is that I don't think that it is likely that these muslims were involved in 9/11 while you seem to think it is likely. I disagree but don't think that makes you crazy. just nervous and justifiably so.

I think all this arguing about who is behind it is pointless. I think it is an undeniable fact that no matter how good the intentions of the people Pushing for this. It will be unavoidably seen as a sign of Victory by those Muslims who are Radical and want to do us harm. I think it will be a beacon calling to them, a sort a second mecca for the Radicals. A place to go worship at the site where their Brothers killed so many of the infidel.

That is why I oppose it.

I also on a person level have a problem with any Muslim Preaching to us about Tolerance and Freedom of Religion. Considering how much of the Muslim world lives under intolerant Systems who Oppress any other religion and their own people.

No doubt, that's like Mexico's President lecturing us on immigration laws..................Hey wait a minute..................

 

[WillowTree]

That's not what I contend at all. I do contend that the Muslims building this mosque are not responsible for 9/11, however.

and you know this to be true how exactly?

How do you know it's not?

It's unbecoming to demand answers when you won't give any yourself.

yes it is, so why don't you answer?

 

[WillowTree]

Well, I'm just sure that all you freaks would agree that if Nine Americans flew four jets into mosques in Saudi Arabia, it would be perfectly fine to replace them with four Christian churches and **** what the msulims think.. If they get offended it says a lot more about them than it does the Americans. Do I have an understanding here? Thank You.

Why did you quote me? I agree that it is offensive. The ONLY issue i disagree with you on is that I don't think that it is likely that these muslims were involved in 9/11 while you seem to think it is likely. I disagree but don't think that makes you crazy. just nervous and justifiably so.

I think all this arguing about who is behind it is pointless. I think it is an undeniable fact that no matter how good the intentions of the people Pushing for this. It will be unavoidably seen as a sign of Victory by those Muslims who are Radical and want to do us harm. I think it will be a beacon calling to them, a sort a second mecca for the Radicals. A place to go worship at the site where their Brothers killed so many of the infidel.

That is why I oppose it.

I also on a person level have a problem with any Muslim Preaching to us about Tolerance and Freedom of Religion. Considering how much of the Muslim world lives under intolerant Systems who Oppress any other religion and their own people.

I kinda likes what Newt said about it. Maybe a bit unreasonable but it does illustrate the problem.

"Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City. Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia. In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca."

God, the voice of sanity in a sea of the insane. Totally agree.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I can't help what Willow thinks here. I disagree with her on that particular point.

And it may be true that it speaks more to the Americans than it does to the Muslims, but wouldn't you agree that being sensitive means being sensitive to others?

Throw all the partisan bullshit aside, can you not admit that when 80% of the people do not want something and you choose to do it anyway, you are being selfish and insensitive? If you can't admit that, you are being as loony as mr fitnah, or that guatanema freak or bert or shogun who have completely buried themselves in dogma on either side of the issue and would require a crane just to dig themselves to fresh air.

here's how it boils down

You're either an insane whacko who believes the government should prevent this mosque from being built

or

You're a complete whacko who believes that these people should build this mosque and who gives a shit what the rest of america thinks

or

A rational person who completely admits that they can absolutely do what they want with their own land, within the law of course; but having the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD do it, and this would be the ultimate act of insensitivity to build this damn thing.

There is no fourth option. There are variations of the three options, but that is it. Where do you fall?

I guess I'm loony, then. I don't believe in the tyranny of the majority, and don't believe these Muslims should move their mosque just because a large group of people want to hold all Muslims responsible for the crimes of other Muslims.

However, if it were me I'd probably try to find another location for my mosque. The controversy really isn't worth dealing with in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

That is just another way of saying. I wouldn't build it here because I wouldn't want everyone pissed at me. So welcome to the middle ground.

Not really. I don't care if people would be mad at me, it just wouldn't be worth all the aggravation.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

and you know this to be true how exactly?

How do you know it's not?

It's unbecoming to demand answers when you won't give any yourself.

yes it is, so why don't you answer?

Because I don't have the will to try to have an intelligent discussion with someone who refuses to do the same.