Moscow: US must pack its stuff and get out of Europe

[EvilCat Breath]

Well, the Crimea. They interfere in Finland, in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. They interfere in Belarus too. You don't need bases to do that.

The Crimean people voted to return to Russian rule, You are referencing what is Eastern Europe. Except for Finland. They have no bases to close and move. We have many throughout all of Central Europe. Ukraine is simply none of our business. It's chief benefit runs directly to the Biden family through Hunter Biden. Frankly, if Russia cut off the Biden cash flow, I'd just laugh.

One thing is certain, not one American life should be lost protecting Biden's graft.

 

[rupol2000]

The presence in Belarus does not matter, Belarus is completely loyal to the Kremlin, this is in the interests of Belarus and not against it. Belarus is historical Russia (and modern Russia is not historical Russia)

 

[frigidweirdo]

In Belarus yes, in Finland, in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia not

Bullshit.

Finland to probe claims of Russia disrupting GPS – DW – 11/11/2018

Finland's GPS signal was disrupted during NATO's recent military drills and Russia may have been the culprit, according to Finland's prime minister. The apparent jamming also affected air traffic in Norway.

www.dw.com

"Finland to probe reports of Russia disrupting GPS during NATO drill"

https://newdirection.online/2018-publications-pdf/ND-RussianInfluenceInLatvia-preview(low-res).pdf

"These three reports by New Direction on the Russian regime’s influence in the Baltic States come in a very important time period,"

The Baltic states are like the Ukraine, a part of the former USSR. Look at Kazakhstan and how the Russians were invited in to kill some evil people who didn't like their government. Russia sees the former USSR and probably Warsaw Pact as its sphere of influence and is doing everything it can to get it back.

Putin was USSR KGB, he wants to get the USSR back, with Russia at its head.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The Crimean people voted to return to Russian rule, You are referencing what is Eastern Europe. Except for Finland. They have no bases to close and move. We have many throughout all of Central Europe. Ukraine is simply none of our business. It's chief benefit runs directly to the Biden family through Hunter Biden. Frankly, if Russia cut off the Biden cash flow, I'd just laugh.

One thing is certain, not one American life should be lost protecting Biden's graft.

Right, in an election held by Russia, after Russia invaded and all the anti-Russians were forced to leave or forced to die. I mean.... come on....

I'm not saying the Ukraine is any of the US's business, it's also none of Russia's business. It's Ukraine's business.

 

[rupol2000]

False information huh?

Absolutely. This data is in the open access

В Минобороны России сообщили о шести военных базах за рубежом

Россия в настоящее время имеет шесть зарубежных военных баз, пять из них в странах "ближнего" зарубежья и одна - в Сирии, сообщается в брошюре "Армия России в сравнении", распространенной Минобороны перед началом расширенного заседания коллеги военного ведомства.

www.interfax.ru

According to the brochure “The Russian Army in Comparison” published by the Ministry of Defense, the 555th air group is deployed at the Khmeimim airbase, the Seventh military base is in Abkhazia, the Fourth military base is in South Ossetia, the 102nd military base is in Armenia, the 201st military base is in Tajikistan, the 999th air base - in Kyrgyzstan.

 

[rupol2000]

I am surprised at the naivety of Americans. Russia is not a significant military force in the world, in comparison with the US Army, except for nuclear forces, it is nothing at all. In Russia, there are no professional military at all, with the exception of two parts of the special part of the air infantry, which are very few in number. In addition, there is the GRU special forces, but this is not part of the Troops, but a special service unit. And that's all. All other soldiers can only run with a machine gun. Even the unofficial Wagner group is not a professional military team, they are just mercenaries, but they are not specially trained military specialists.

PS True, there is still good aviation

 

[rupol2000]

"Finland to probe reports of Russia disrupting GPS during NATO drill"

There is a section of conspiracy theories, with this you better go there. We talked about military bases

 

[AZrailwhale]

Doesn't change the fact that barring a few truly moronic strategic blunders by Hitler, the war could have turned out very different.

Are you kidding? Germany didn’t have a chance, it lost the war when it lost the Battle of Britain. If Germany had been able to force the UK out of the war it MIGHT have been able to steamroller the Soviets into a negotiated peace. It would then have to figure out a way to keep FDR from declaring war. The Commonwealth could defeat Germany by itself, the USSR could defeat Germany by itself and the USA could defeat GermAny by itself. Up against all three at once, an ice circle in hell had a better chance of survival.

 

[ESay]

Absolutely. This data is in the open access

В Минобороны России сообщили о шести военных базах за рубежом

Россия в настоящее время имеет шесть зарубежных военных баз, пять из них в странах "ближнего" зарубежья и одна - в Сирии, сообщается в брошюре "Армия России в сравнении", распространенной Минобороны перед началом расширенного заседания коллеги военного ведомства.

www.interfax.ru

According to the brochure “The Russian Army in Comparison” published by the Ministry of Defense, the 555th air group is deployed at the Khmeimim airbase, the Seventh military base is in Abkhazia, the Fourth military base is in South Ossetia, the 102nd military base is in Armenia, the 201st military base is in Tajikistan, the 999th air base - in Kyrgyzstan.

It is pretty cool to cite Russian officials to prove some point. Why didn't they mention their base in Transnistria and said nothing that armed forces of so called DNR and LNR had virtually become a part of Russian military?

 

[rupol2000]

It is pretty cool to cite Russian officials to prove some point. Why didn't they mention their base in Transnistria and said nothing that armed forces of so called DNR and LNR had virtually become a part of Russian military?

Stop talking nonsense. There have never been official Russian troops in Ukraine, only volunteers and mercenaries fought there, and they were on both sides. These are not only Russian citizens, there were mercenaries from all over the world. Putin had a chance to join the Donbass according to the Crimean scenario, there was a referendum. He flatly rejected this option.

The Russian army of conventional troops cannot compete with the US army, this is a qualitatively different level.

If you want to understand where this incitement comes from, read my topic:

The goals of provocations of enmity between Russia and the US

It is very strange that this is most typical for times when the left loyal to Bolshevism comes to power in the United States, which should be delighted with totalitarianism. What is the secret? The fact that the United States is Europe's enemy No. 1. The United States is a right-wing free...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[rupol2000]

so called DNR and LNR

By whom are the "called"? The official Kremlin knows nothing about such "republics".

 

[ESay]

Stop talking nonsense. There have never been official Russian troops in Ukraine, only volunteers and mercenaries fought there, and they were on both sides. These are not only Russian citizens, there were mercenaries from all over the world. Putin had a chance to join the Donbass according to the Crimean scenario, there was a referendum. He flatly rejected this option.

The Russian army of conventional troops cannot compete with the US army, this is a qualitatively different level.

If you want to understand where this incitement comes from, read my topic:

The goals of provocations of enmity between Russia and the US

It is very strange that this is most typical for times when the left loyal to Bolshevism comes to power in the United States, which should be delighted with totalitarianism. What is the secret? The fact that the United States is Europe's enemy No. 1. The United States is a right-wing free...

www.usmessageboard.com

Do you want to say there haven't been Russian 'military advisors' there, supply of military hardware and some Russian military units operating there? Dude, are you really imply that?

 

[rupol2000]

It is pretty cool to cite Russian officials to prove some point

And what are you proposing to use as evidence the tabloid press of Zimbabwe instead of the official Russian one?

 

[ESay]

By whom are the "called"? The official Kremlin knows nothing about such "republics".

В Госдуме обсудят проект обращения к Путину о признании ДНР и ЛНР — РБК

www.google.com

 

[frigidweirdo]

Absolutely. This data is in the open access

В Минобороны России сообщили о шести военных базах за рубежом

Россия в настоящее время имеет шесть зарубежных военных баз, пять из них в странах "ближнего" зарубежья и одна - в Сирии, сообщается в брошюре "Армия России в сравнении", распространенной Минобороны перед началом расширенного заседания коллеги военного ведомства.

www.interfax.ru

According to the brochure “The Russian Army in Comparison” published by the Ministry of Defense, the 555th air group is deployed at the Khmeimim airbase, the Seventh military base is in Abkhazia, the Fourth military base is in South Ossetia, the 102nd military base is in Armenia, the 201st military base is in Tajikistan, the 999th air base - in Kyrgyzstan.

And?

 

[ESay]

And what are you proposing to use as evidence the tabloid press of Zimbabwe instead of the official Russian one?

Yeah, that would have been more trustworthy source.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I am surprised at the naivety of Americans. Russia is not a significant military force in the world, in comparison with the US Army, except for nuclear forces, it is nothing at all. In Russia, there are no professional military at all, with the exception of two parts of the special part of the air infantry, which are very few in number. In addition, there is the GRU special forces, but this is not part of the Troops, but a special service unit. And that's all. All other soldiers can only run with a machine gun. Even the unofficial Wagner group is not a professional military team, they are just mercenaries, but they are not specially trained military specialists.

PS True, there is still good aviation

Russia is dangerous, it's not about the amount of arms you have, it's how you use them. And mostly these issues aren't about military power. Russia didn't take the Crimea because of military power. It took it because of interference in Ukrainian politics for decades. Undermining the country at every step. Now complaining about them wanting to join NATO.

 

[frigidweirdo]

There is a section of conspiracy theories, with this you better go there. We talked about military bases

I guess Russia invading Finland in the 1939 is also a "conspiracy theory".

 

[rupol2000]

Do you want to say there haven't been Russian 'military advisors' there, supply of military hardware and some Russian military units operating there? Dude, are you really imply that?

I don't know about it.
And how do you imagine it? Some moron comes up to a military unit, goes through a checkpoint, approaches an officer and says: give me your equipment for the "DPR" for free?

You know that US funding for Shah Massoud in the 80s went through the Pentagon's official accounting, it was not "secret funding" or "secret supply", the US officially supplied weapons

 

[rupol2000]

I guess Russia invading Finland in the 1939 is also a "conspiracy theory".

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