More on the prom canceling

[froggy]

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Why, would i see the word expression in there if i had?

Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak without censorship and/or limitation. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to indicate not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
Freedom of speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the second part of your post is someones interpretation to benefit their own action

 

[froggy]

Some schools are like that, they don't care.

Probably no one would have cared at this one if she didn't make such a big deal about it...I mean she started in December with her demands....this was all about a lawsuit and money from the start.

So she asked for it?

I just wondered if maybe the ACLU might have aided her from the get go.

 

[froggy]

Whats next, after this bunch screws the tax payer again Judge: No school prom but lesbian's right violated - Yahoo! News

My prediction: This will go the court, the "lesbian" will win some undisclosed sum of money, within 5 years she'll become straight, get married and have a couple kids.

And her rights will still have been violated.

Wrong.

 

[froggy]

My prediction: This will go to court, the "lesbian" will win some undisclosed sum of money, within 5 years she'll become straight, get married and have a couple kids.

And her rights will still have been violated.

And public schools will never cancel another prom to prevent gay couples from attending ever again.

Wrong.

 

[froggy]

How can her rights be violated?

Just relax. Think about something nice, like a breezy beach, or a lush green golf course, or a beautiful hooker with huge tits and a line of powder cocaine running down her asscrack - whatever floats your boat.

Are you relaxed now?

OK. I've got something to tell you. Its something you need to know. Are you ready? Good.

YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES


So stop trying to, and butt out of any and all conversations concerning them.


Thanks!

Are you trying to oppress his freedom of speech, someone might call you Prejudice.

 

[froggy]

Use your head. The fact that they excluded her from the prom violated her first amendment rights. They canceled the prom due to her challenge.

The judge didn't say that she had a right to a prom. That is why he didn't order the school to hold one. He said that the school violated her rights by excluding her.

There is no prom there for she was not denied the right to attend. Pretty simple concept.

Is it really hard to get the fact they denied her access to a public school sponsored event?
Doesn't matter if they canceled the prom after doing so, they still violated her first amendment rights by not allowing her to attend prom in the first place.

Did they say she could not attend or did they just cancle it?

 

[froggy]

Why does it matter if her family is Mexican? She is still an American citizen and her rights were violated.

What of the other students, did she have the right to ruin their last year memories, she kinda selfish, ya think.

She didn't cancel the prom.

She caused it, she had willful intent to break the rules thus to drum up a lawsuit. the school was forced to cancel to ward off one.

 

[Ravi]

Whats next, after this bunch screws the tax payer again Judge: No school prom but lesbian's right violated - Yahoo! News

How can her rights be violated? No One has a RIGHT to a Prom. And the school is NOT holding a Prom. The Judge is an idiot. Is the Judge going to ask the Federal Government to pay for this Prom? This loses on every level.

but she mexican, we Americans aren't allowed to offend a foreigner.

She's an American, you idiot. That's some nasty hate you have lurking in your soul.

 

[Ravi]

Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws. Criticism of the government and advocacy of unpopular ideas that people may find distasteful or against public policy, such as racism, sexism, and other hate speech are generally permitted. There are exceptions to these general protection, including the Miller test for obscenity, child pornography laws, speech that incites imminent danger, and regulation of commercial speech such as advertising. Within these limited areas, other limitations on free speech balance rights to free speech and other rights, such as property rights for authors and inventors (copyright), interests in "fair" political campaigns (Campaign finance laws), protection from imminent or potential violence against particular persons (restrictions on fighting words), or the use of untruths to harm others (slander). Which part was violated?

Plagiarism is against the law, btw.

Where's pubic to call you on it?

 

[Gadawg73]

but she mexican, we Americans aren't allowed to offend a foreigner.

she's american, and the judge held that her 1st amendment rights were violated.

he's decided to have a trial; it seems like the right thing to do, imo.

NO one has a right to a Prom. She was not denied the right to attend a Prom, it was canceled. NO prom is being held so she is not being denied anything. Once again, NO PROM, no rights violation. This Judge is an idiot and those of you that think somehow children have the right to a Prom are IDIOTS.

Your argument is sound. That is the defense at trial.
All the judge did is use sound law to proceed with the material facts of the case. How can you claim the judge is an idiot without any legal background, training or being in the court hearing this case?
The judge does not try the case on the facts. A JURY does that. We are not a dictatorship.

 

[bodecea]

Probably no one would have cared at this one if she didn't make such a big deal about it...I mean she started in December with her demands....this was all about a lawsuit and money from the start.

So she asked for it?

I just wondered if maybe the ACLU might have aided her from the get go.

YOu mean like how the NCAAP helped Rosa Parks from the gitgo?

 

[bodecea]

How can her rights be violated? No One has a RIGHT to a Prom. And the school is NOT holding a Prom. The Judge is an idiot. Is the Judge going to ask the Federal Government to pay for this Prom? This loses on every level.

but she mexican, we Americans aren't allowed to offend a foreigner.

She's an American, you idiot. That's some nasty hate you have lurking in your soul.

I think we can see what direction Froggy is trying to go here.

 

[blindnessprevai]

I see this as just yet another case of attention seeking and gold digging for the sake of presenting some delusional sense of superiority. NONE of us are superior to others for belonging to any specific group....everyone of us need to rise above ourselves and only then can we see ourselves as we really are.

As far as homosexuals and that arrogant pride they often exhibit as an "empowered by number" group, I see it as the most ridiculous of the "rights" activist groups. I am sorry that people are born mentally or physically disabled, but to demand special privileges, honor, or financial gain for it is pretty absurd. I had a dear friend who was homosexual but never exhibited any pride in the fact. She lived her life as a sweet, generous and caring person and void of homosexual activity and few people knew she was a homosexual. She rose above herself.

Far too many people aren't striving for equal rights, but rather superior rights. Blacks and homosexuals already have superior rights in this "hate" crime BS. The beating, murder, and or harrassment of ANYONE of any status is a HATE crime. This just provokes more hate..I do not want to hate anyone, but unfortunately when I hear nonsense like this my "ugly" side is ignited and it's a struggle not to give into hate. Common sense should tell us that being "born" a homosexual is an accident of nature just as being "born" blind, deaf, retarded, a psychopath, etc, is an accident of nature. Are we somewhere along the line going to have to bow to psychopaths?

Living in this twilight zone of massive mis-information and deceitful manipulation, it is difficult to know what to believe, but ONE of the few things I am certain of through personal experience is that God is as REAL as the masses of religious hypocrites that He forewarned us of are real. I do not belong to ANY organized religion, but I know we will all answer to Him one day and it won't matter how many we convinced or how well we convinced them how "wonderful" and "right" we are or how well versed we are on church doctrine. Only the humility of truth, remorse, faith, and such will count for anything.

 

[Gadawg73]

If you were persecuted for being gay would you be sad you were gay or proud?

 

[Vanquish]

Blindness,

I really feel sorry for the hatred in your heart. Hate crimes aren't superior rights. Hate crimes are only pursued when the crime was racially motivated. If a black beats a guy because he's white, the same "extra" protection exists for him. Try not to deny the history of racial bigotry that led to such laws.

Let me hold up a mirror and show you how you really are. You're full of uneducated hatred.

 

[del]

but she mexican, we Americans aren't allowed to offend a foreigner.

she's american, and the judge held that her 1st amendment rights were violated.

he's decided to have a trial; it seems like the right thing to do, imo.

NO one has a right to a Prom. She was not denied the right to attend a Prom, it was canceled. NO prom is being held so she is not being denied anything. Once again, NO PROM, no rights violation. This Judge is an idiot and those of you that think somehow children have the right to a Prom are IDIOTS.

the only one arguing whether or not she has a right to a prom is you, idiot.

 

[manifold]

How can her rights be violated? No One has a RIGHT to a Prom. And the school is NOT holding a Prom. The Judge is an idiot. Is the Judge going to ask the Federal Government to pay for this Prom? This loses on every level.

but she mexican, we Americans aren't allowed to offend a foreigner.

she's american, and the judge held that her 1st amendment rights were violated.

he's decided to have a trial; it seems like the right thing to do, imo.

You're wrong, imo.

I find it interesting that the judge simply declared that her 1st amendment rights were violated but didn't bother to explain how.

 

[manifold]

Use your head. The fact that they excluded her from the prom violated her first amendment rights.

What prom? The story I read said they cancelled it.


If they held the prom and excluded her, then I agree her rights would have been violated. But if cancelling the prom violates her rights, then wouldn't it also be violating every other student's rights as well?

 

[Ravi]

They told her she couldn't attend as part of a lesbian couple. When she made it clear she felt her rights were being violated they canceled the prom.

I think she has a decent case.

 

[del]

Use your head. The fact that they excluded her from the prom violated her first amendment rights.

What prom? The story I read said they cancelled it.


If they held the prom and excluded her, then I agree her rights would have been violated. But if cancelling the prom violates her rights, then wouldn't it also be violating every other student's rights as well?

the way that i understand it, which is probably incorrect because i'm an engineer not a lawyer, is that the fact that she had been openly gay for a number of years and that she told the school that she wanted to bring her gf and dress in a tux as an expression of her beliefs, the school board in canceling the prom denied her her first amendment right to freedom of speech. or possiblt did, i guess, since there will be a trial.

in other words, the judge believes that canceling the prom was a preemptive strike on her freedom of expression. at least, that's how i see it.