More Ancient Proof of Jewish Claims to Jerusalem Temple

[BulletProof]

Weird. So there's "proof" that Jewish armies invaded "Palestine" 3000 years ago (which you accept that as "truth") but no "proof" that the Jewish people of today have any connection to the Jews who were removed 2000 years ago (which you accept as "truth").

So the Jews who "invaded" are real Jews. And the Jews who were removed were real Jews. But the Jews are today are fake.

Where's the proof Jewish armies invaded Palestine 3000 years ago? Imagine that, a Zionist who never heard of the Pentateuch. Sorry Judas, the Torah.

Why is this too complicated for you: The only thing today's so-called Jews have in common with the Jews of the Bible is that they consider themselves spiritual brothers of those Jews who killed Jesus -- and on that point, they're right.

 

[Challenger]

Yeah...I think the Swis can take him..

If it comes to a real fight, a quick look into the Swiss Guard armoury would seal the deal...

Same problem with the Zionist regime, they have the guns; the Palestinians just have rocks...

So the Pslestinian missiles and suicide bombs are made of rocks? LOL

Against the overwhelming military might of the Zionist regime, they might just as well be...

Aww that's so romantic...that you wish Islamic terrorist animals to have deadlier weapons and armaments.

...as opposed to the Zionist terrorist animals that use them against children who throw stones. At least if they had modern weapons it might level the playing field a bit and deter the IDF from carrying out their usual massacres; "mowing the grass" as they put it.

Yeah that's all the Israelis ever do, use their fancy weapons to kill children. No terrorists in site, no rockets, no suicide bombers, nobody driving over civilians using vehicles, nobody stabbing anybody. No, all these Palestinian angels ever do is throw small pebbles at Israelis.

For all that "terrorism" only 611 Zionist Israelis have been killed since the year 2000; compared with 9,350 Palestinians killed by the Zionist regime. In terms of tonnage of ordinance, Palestinians have used around 300 tons of explosives against the Zionist regime since 2000; compared with 18-20,000 tons fired by the IDF against Gaza in 2014 alone! and they call Hamas a terrorist organisation...go figure.

 

[Challenger]

That's odd, you forgot to add that Romans invaded and changed Israel's name to Palestina.

Probably because the Romans took over the then Kingdom of Judea, and renamed the province Palaestina...but then again facts were never your strong point, hey ho.

 

[Challenger]

Jewish armies originally invaded Palestine about 3000 years ago and then named the land Israel, and then they lost the land about 2000 years ago. So, how is it history gives them the right to the land? They weren't there first. They weren't there the longest.

Sorry to be pedantic, but there's no archaeological evidence of any invasion, but even if you accept there was, the "invaders" were probably assorted tribes, collectively known as Habiru and there's no non-Biblical evidence they even followed the religion of Judaism, which was invented in Persia much later on, but were more likely polytheistic "pagans".

You are right however, that an actual Jewish theocratic Kingdom did exist in the region, but that lasted no more than 100 years. So modern Jewish people have no real "right" to the region. At most they may have some claim to their temple that was once situated in Jerusalem, but no-one really knows for certain where that temple even stood.

I agree, they weren't the first, and they certainly weren't the longest.

 

[BulletProof]

Sorry to be pedantic, but there's no archaeological evidence of any invasion, but even if you accept there was, the "invaders" were probably assorted tribes, collectively known as Habiru and there's no non-Biblical evidence they even followed the religion of Judaism, which was invented in Persia much later on, but were more likely polytheistic "pagans".

Be that as it may, everyone who uses the Hebrews scripture to establish Jewish rights to the land, those same scriptures say that the Jews originally took the land, by force, from the people living there. Further, followers of Hebrew or Christian scripture know that restoring Israel is the job of Messiah/Christ. Outside of that, there is no scriptural legitimacy to Israel.

At most they may have some claim to their temple that was once situated in Jerusalem, but no-one really knows for certain where that temple even stood.

It seems highly unlikely the Temple was anywhere other than where it's commonly believe to have been.

 

[rylah]

Jewish armies originally invaded Palestine about 3000 years ago and then named the land Israel, and then they lost the land about 2000 years ago. So, how is it history gives them the right to the land? They weren't there first. They weren't there the longest.

Sorry to be pedantic, but there's no archaeological evidence of any invasion, but even if you accept there was, the "invaders" were probably assorted tribes, collectively known as Habiru and there's no non-Biblical evidence they even followed the religion of Judaism, which was invented in Persia much later on, but were more likely polytheistic "pagans".

You are right however, that an actual Jewish theocratic Kingdom did exist in the region, but that lasted no more than 100 years. So modern Jewish people have no real "right" to the region. At most they may have some claim to their temple that was once situated in Jerusalem, but no-one really knows for certain where that temple even stood.

I agree, they weren't the first, and they certainly weren't the longest.

Not even slightly pedantic, more to the side of arrogant.
"Habiru" or "Apiru" has connection to Hebrews only in English.
In the local language it's - 'Ivri' or 'Ivrim'.

Please learn the basics, pedantic..later.

 

[rylah]

Further, followers of Hebrew or Christian scripture know that restoring Israel is the job of Messiah/Christ. Outside of that, there is no scriptural legitimacy to Israel.

A big difference between Hebrew scriptures, and the Greco-Roman translations and additions aka the NT.
There's a clear 'scriptural legitimacy' in Moses' last words to Israel.
The scriptures talk about Hashem bringing us back home, and since the nations did proclaim our historic rights to this land, while also breaching the previous contract - You have no claim.
Objections on the basis of Israel's loyalty to Hashem, do not involve You.

 

[BulletProof]

since the nations did proclaim our historic rights to this land

Israel's legitimacy comes from subhuman goy?

 

[Challenger]

...there is no scriptural legitimacy to Israel.

Fair point.

It seems highly unlikely the Temple was anywhere other than where it's commonly believe to have been.

Wanna bet? Until serious archaeological work is carried out on the so called "Temple mount", we'll never know for sure. There are several serious scholarly theories that the Jewish Temple was situated further south of the current supposed location. By "serious" here I mean not done by the Zionist "Ahnenerbe" or "Biblical" archaeologists.

 

[Challenger]

Not even slightly pedantic, more to the side of arrogant.
"Habiru" or "Apiru" has connection to Hebrews only in English.
In the local language it's - 'Ivri' or 'Ivrim'.

Please learn the basics, pedantic..later.

Only English? Can't be bothered to respond to this, I'll lower myself to let Wikipedia debunk it for me:

Habiru or Apiru (Egyptian: ˁpr.w) was the name given by various Sumerian, Egyptian, Akkadian, Hittite, Mitanni, and Ugaritic sources...

 

[Sixties Fan]

[Why, oh, why, would the Arabs discard anything which should prove their ancestral claim to the land of Palestine (cough), I mean Israel?]

Revealing the Buried Treasures of the Temple Mount


Revealing the Buried Treasures of the Temple Mount

 

[Challenger]

[Why, oh, why, would the Arabs discard anything which should prove their ancestral claim to the land of Palestine (cough), I mean Israel?]

Revealing the Buried Treasures of the Temple Mount


Revealing the Buried Treasures of the Temple Mount

You mean this half Shekel?

Why is there still a fake musical instrument on the half-shekel coin?

or this one?

Benjamin Netanyahu mistakes museum souvenir for 2,000 year old Jewish coin

 

[Sixties Fan]

[Why, oh, why, would the Arabs discard anything which should prove their ancestral claim to the land of Palestine (cough), I mean Israel?]

Revealing the Buried Treasures of the Temple Mount


Revealing the Buried Treasures of the Temple Mount

You mean this half Shekel?

Why is there still a fake musical instrument on the half-shekel coin?

or this one?

Benjamin Netanyahu mistakes museum souvenir for 2,000 year old Jewish coin

As if those two examples wipe out all the Arabs have been throwing away as fake?

What? The Arabs have a factory under the Temple where they are fabricating fake ancient anything for the sake of the Jews?

 

[Roudy]

That's odd, you forgot to add that Romans invaded and changed Israel's name to Palestina. But what does all of this have to do with Israel being the holy land of the Jews, whether or not the temple existed, and the Arab Muslims deciding to call themselves a name they never did in the past?

Now watch, the mental midget is looking once again start with his usual off topic garbage spam about DNA, colonialists, apartheid, and blah blah and more blah.

Better a mental midget than a spawn of Satan.

Jewish armies originally invaded Palestine about 3000 years ago and then named the land Israel, and then they lost the land about 2000 years ago. So, how is it history gives them the right to the land? They weren't there first. They weren't there the longest.

There's no evidence the current so-called Jews are descendants of the Jews who were removed 2000 years ago. So, again, you have no case.

Jesus-killers, apartheid, blah, blah, blah. Common decency and the Bible (e.g. Psalm 139:21) requires that Christians hate the so-called Jews.

Can anybody please translate what this rambling antiSemite that failed in world history just said?

I have a suggestion for you Achmed, how about you stick to what you Mooslems should do and stop suggesting that Christians should hate?

 

[Roudy]

Weird. So there's "proof" that Jewish armies invaded "Palestine" 3000 years ago (which you accept that as "truth") but no "proof" that the Jewish people of today have any connection to the Jews who were removed 2000 years ago (which you accept as "truth").

So the Jews who "invaded" are real Jews. And the Jews who were removed were real Jews. But the Jews are today are fake.

Where's the proof Jewish armies invaded Palestine 3000 years ago? Imagine that, a Zionist who never heard of the Pentateuch. Sorry Judas, the Torah.

Why is this too complicated for you: The only thing today's so-called Jews have in common with the Jews of the Bible is that they consider themselves spiritual brothers of those Jews who killed Jesus -- and on that point, they're right.

And yet, despite that, Israel is still the holy land of the Jews where they built their Temple, and they are now in control of it. And that must truly burn your IslamoNazi ass. Heck, they might even rebuild their temple!

It's funny how often these antisemtic lunatics contradict themselves and put their hoofs in their mouths. On one hand they claim todays Jews are "Jesus killers" and they should be "hated", it's what the Bible says (hate thy brother LOL) on the other they say today's Jews have no relation to ancient Jews! Ha ha ha.

The insanity is quite entertaining. Keep it up, Achmed.

 

[Roudy]

So the Pslestinian missiles and suicide bombs are made of rocks? LOL

Against the overwhelming military might of the Zionist regime, they might just as well be...

Aww that's so romantic...that you wish Islamic terrorist animals to have deadlier weapons and armaments.

...as opposed to the Zionist terrorist animals that use them against children who throw stones. At least if they had modern weapons it might level the playing field a bit and deter the IDF from carrying out their usual massacres; "mowing the grass" as they put it.

Yeah that's all the Israelis ever do, use their fancy weapons to kill children. No terrorists in site, no rockets, no suicide bombers, nobody driving over civilians using vehicles, nobody stabbing anybody. No, all these Palestinian angels ever do is throw small pebbles at Israelis.

For all that "terrorism" only 611 Zionist Israelis have been killed since the year 2000; compared with 9,350 Palestinians killed by the Zionist regime. In terms of tonnage of ordinance, Palestinians have used around 300 tons of explosives against the Zionist regime since 2000; compared with 18-20,000 tons fired by the IDF against Gaza in 2014 alone! and they call Hamas a terrorist organisation...go figure.

It isn't about the numbers dufus, the US lost 365,000 and the Germans lost 15 million in WWII, so I guess that makes the Nazis right.

And Hamas is classified as a terrorist organization not only by Israel but the US and most of the West.

But it's amazing how the Palestinians managed to kill so many Jews with only pebbles, eh? Ha ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

Sorry to be pedantic, but there's no archaeological evidence of any invasion, but even if you accept there was, the "invaders" were probably assorted tribes, collectively known as Habiru and there's no non-Biblical evidence they even followed the religion of Judaism, which was invented in Persia much later on, but were more likely polytheistic "pagans".

Be that as it may, everyone who uses the Hebrews scripture to establish Jewish rights to the land, those same scriptures say that the Jews originally took the land, by force, from the people living there. Further, followers of Hebrew or Christian scripture know that restoring Israel is the job of Messiah/Christ. Outside of that, there is no scriptural legitimacy to Israel.

At most they may have some claim to their temple that was once situated in Jerusalem, but no-one really knows for certain where that temple even stood.

It seems highly unlikely the Temple was anywhere other than where it's commonly believe to have been.

Two ignorant antisemites concluding "no legitimacy to Israel in scripture" when Jerusalem and its holiness is mentioned over 900 times in the OT, and Israel was God's promise to his people. The OT being the first half of the NT and pillar of the Christian faith with a Jewish Jesus.

Ya gotta love it! You two should get a room and hash out your differences. Ha ha ha.

 

[jillian]

That's odd, you forgot to add that Romans invaded and changed Israel's name to Palestina. But what does all of this have to do with Israel being the holy land of the Jews, whether or not the temple existed, and the Arab Muslims deciding to call themselves a name they never did in the past?

Now watch, the mental midget is looking once again start with his usual off topic garbage spam about DNA, colonialists, apartheid, and blah blah and more blah.

Better a mental midget than a spawn of Satan.

Jewish armies originally invaded Palestine about 3000 years ago and then named the land Israel, and then they lost the land about 2000 years ago. So, how is it history gives them the right to the land? They weren't there first. They weren't there the longest.

There's no evidence the current so-called Jews are descendants of the Jews who were removed 2000 years ago. So, again, you have no case.

Jesus-killers, apartheid, blah, blah, blah. Common decency and the Bible (e.g. Psalm 139:21) requires that Christians hate the so-called Jews.

gee. let's unpack your anti-Semitic insane rant....
1. satan was made up and your wackadoodle ideas about satan come mostly from dante's inferno. how sad you think Dante was G-d

2. you are a loon. I know it's an anti-Semite thing to try to pretend jews don't exist as a people. but jews are far more legitimate than the Christians who were created because some obsessed G-d botherer decided to "spread the word" or as in the case of the HRE, force people to convert by torture and pain of death.

3. Jews did not kill jesus, you lowlife scum....and if they did, he was a jew and was their political problem. as it happens, however, he was killed by romans like a thousand others who called themselves "messiah". that's what happens when a country is occupied like Judea was occupied by Rome

4. the "bible" is the old testament and not the gospels made up by Jesus' followers and edited by Constantine for his mommy at the council of nicea.

5. the only thing that "requires" you to hate jews is your own ignorance, vileness and white trash teaching.

 

[jillian]

Sorry to be pedantic, but there's no archaeological evidence of any invasion, but even if you accept there was, the "invaders" were probably assorted tribes, collectively known as Habiru and there's no non-Biblical evidence they even followed the religion of Judaism, which was invented in Persia much later on, but were more likely polytheistic "pagans".

Be that as it may, everyone who uses the Hebrews scripture to establish Jewish rights to the land, those same scriptures say that the Jews originally took the land, by force, from the people living there. Further, followers of Hebrew or Christian scripture know that restoring Israel is the job of Messiah/Christ. Outside of that, there is no scriptural legitimacy to Israel.

At most they may have some claim to their temple that was once situated in Jerusalem, but no-one really knows for certain where that temple even stood.

It seems highly unlikely the Temple was anywhere other than where it's commonly believe to have been.

Two ignorant antisemites concluding "no legitimacy to Israel in scripture" when Jerusalem and its holiness is mentioned over 900 times in the OT, and Israel was God's promise to his people. The OT being the first half of the NT and pillar of the Christian faith with a Jewish Jesus.

Ya gotta love it! You two should get a room and hash out your differences. Ha ha ha.

don't you love how every other country that Britain made up is just fine with them... but they have issues with the "legitimacy" of the one jewish state.

meh.... anti-Semite trash isn't anything new.... that's what happens when bitter, ignorant life failures want to blame others for the fact that they have learned and accomplished nothing.

 

[BulletProof]

1. satan was made up and your wackadoodle ideas about satan come mostly from dante's inferno. how sad you think Dante was G-d

Dumb@ss, my Satan reference was repeating what Jesus said many centuries before Dante's Inferno.

2. you are a loon. I know it's an anti-Semite thing to try to pretend jews don't exist as a people. but jews are far more legitimate than the Christians

Declaring something doesn't make it so. Dumb@ss, why don't you explain how Talmudists are more legitimate than Christians.

3. Jews did not kill jesus, you lowlife scum....

Dumb@ss, the Romans were just the tool. Your Talmud gives the Jews credit for killing Jesus. Why so shy, Judas?

4. the "bible" is the old testament and not the gospels made up by Jesus' followers and edited by Constantine for his mommy at the council of nicea.

Dumb@ss, anything that could be shown an edit has been squeezed out by Bible researchers.

5. the only thing that "requires" you to hate jews is your own ignorance, vileness and white trash teaching.

God hates Jews and who am I do disagree with God?