Mitt's in deep doo-doo

[JimBowie1958]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.


Romney is going to be the nominee.

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

The single biggest factor in Romney's support is this myth that he will beat Obama.

Romney has no ability to exploit Obama's weaknesses, he cant outspend Obama, and Romney does not energize the consrvative base to enhance the conservative turnout.

The GOP needs that turnout since 45% of voters self-identify as conservative, compared to 35% moderate and 20% liberal. That is why every GOP nominee that ran as a conservative since 1972 has won and everyone that did nto has lost.

All Romnulans can do is parrot, 'Romney is going to get the nomination. Romney will beat Obama. SQUAAWWKKK!!!'

No evidence, no facts, no reason behind any of it. Just this generic 'everybody knows, dude' kind of stupidity.

IF Romney gets the nomination, **** the GOP, I will vote for Obama, a more honest man, even if he is a liberal. Romney wouldnt know what the Truth about anything was even if it bit him in the ass.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.


Romney is going to be the nominee.

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

IF Zander is a typical Dem astroturfer, then he will be glad.

 

[JoeB131]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.


Romney is going to be the nominee.

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

IF Zander is a typical Dem astroturfer, then he will be glad.

To be fair, I think Zander is one of these people who think as long as Wall Street is making money, all is right in America.

Romney is Wall Street's candidate. At a time when Wall Street is about as popular as the Ebola Virus.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.


Romney is going to be the nominee.

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

The single biggest factor in Romney's support is this myth that he will beat Obama.

Romney has no ability to exploit Obama's weaknesses, he cant outspend Obama, and Romney does not energize the consrvative base to enhance the conservative turnout.

The GOP needs that turnout since 45% of voters self-identify as conservative, compared to 35% moderate and 20% liberal. That is why every GOP nominee that ran as a conservative since 1972 has won and everyone that did nto has lost.

All Romnulans can do is parrot, 'Romney is going to get the nomination. Romney will beat Obama. SQUAAWWKKK!!!'

No evidence, no facts, no reason behind any of it. Just this generic 'everybody knows, dude' kind of stupidity.

IF Romney gets the nomination, **** the GOP, I will vote for Obama, a more honest man, even if he is a liberal. Romney wouldnt know what the Truth about anything was even if it bit him in the ass.

You've got to be kidding........ What happened to the most transparent Administration ever? Or how about every Bill will be on line for the people to see for 5 days before he signs them? Or how about any number of other falsehoods from this administration?

Honest? I would never call him that.

 

[Intense]

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

IF Zander is a typical Dem astroturfer, then he will be glad.

To be fair, I think Zander is one of these people who think as long as Wall Street is making money, all is right in America.

Romney is Wall Street's candidate. At a time when Wall Street is about as popular as the Ebola Virus.

Yep, and where is Obama? Taking Their Money.

 

[Intense]

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

The single biggest factor in Romney's support is this myth that he will beat Obama.

Romney has no ability to exploit Obama's weaknesses, he cant outspend Obama, and Romney does not energize the consrvative base to enhance the conservative turnout.

The GOP needs that turnout since 45% of voters self-identify as conservative, compared to 35% moderate and 20% liberal. That is why every GOP nominee that ran as a conservative since 1972 has won and everyone that did nto has lost.

All Romnulans can do is parrot, 'Romney is going to get the nomination. Romney will beat Obama. SQUAAWWKKK!!!'

No evidence, no facts, no reason behind any of it. Just this generic 'everybody knows, dude' kind of stupidity.

IF Romney gets the nomination, **** the GOP, I will vote for Obama, a more honest man, even if he is a liberal. Romney wouldnt know what the Truth about anything was even if it bit him in the ass.

You've got to be kidding........ What happened to the most transparent Administration ever? Or how about every Bill will be on line for the people to see for 5 days before he signs them? Or how about any number of other falsehoods from this administration?

Honest? I would never call him that.

Chicago Style Government.

 

[Avatar4321]

To be fair, I think Zander is one of these people who think as long as Wall Street is making money, all is right in America.

Romney is Wall Street's candidate. At a time when Wall Street is about as popular as the Ebola Virus.

Actually, I think Zander is one of these people who doesnt look at Romney, scream "Mormon!" and fight tooth and nail without looking at his policies.

Aside from Romneycare, Romney has a conservative governing record. Not to mention the fact that he made his fortune eliminate waste from companies and making them profitable again. I know you are smearing Romney for his business skills, but I think that's largely because you already dislike him for his mormonism and dont want to take an accurate look at things.

I can see a number of reasons why Romney is a superior candidate to Obama:

1) He sees the need to return power back to the States and to decentralize power away from the Federal Government to be closer to the people. Obama has a 3 year record of doing the opposite.
2) He has a 20+ year record of eliminating waste and corruption and turning businesses and non-profits around. Obama has 3 years of increasing that 100 fold in the Federal government.
3) Romney is not aligned with political radicals seeking to overthrow the nation. And despite his differences with conservatives on some matters, I think he could be persuaded to play ball with reasonable government policies. With Obama in office, conservatives will get nothing. With Romney in office, conservatives can get some policies and possibly persuade Romney into providing others.
4) I see no evidence that Romney wants to micromanage our daily lives. Contrast that with Obama who has been passing Federal laws against people growing food in their Garden.
5) Romney has no desire to see our energy prices necessarily skyrocket, which will be a serious problem this summer & fall. Obama has made statements otherwise.
6) Romney knows how to balance a budget. Obama has problems even creating one.
7) The Supreme Court.

Is Romney perfect? No. But if I can come up with these 7 off the top of my head, im sure I could come up with more if I actually sit down and think about it. There are some clear reasons to support Romney over Obama in a match up this fall. And let's not forget that the census has redistrbuted EC votes to traditionally Red States. That puts Obama at a disadvantage to begin with.

Could Obama win? Yes. But I wouldnt count Romney out at all. And if the left decides to follow your example and attack Romney for his faith, I expect to see a landslide for Romney. I know you dont agree. But that method didn't work well for Stephen Douglas, I dont think it will work for the left this time. Opposing the Church is not a good way to get on the side of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

 

[saveliberty]

Here is what is wrong with Romney as president:

A Republican House will probably support a Republican president. Romney's liberal leanings will allow for support by Democrats in the Senate. Romney can actually get MORE liberal things passed than Obama.

 

[Intense]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.


Romney is going to be the nominee.

And he'll lose to Obama. Hope you're happy.

The single biggest factor in Romney's support is this myth that he will beat Obama.

Romney has no ability to exploit Obama's weaknesses, he cant outspend Obama, and Romney does not energize the consrvative base to enhance the conservative turnout.

The GOP needs that turnout since 45% of voters self-identify as conservative, compared to 35% moderate and 20% liberal. That is why every GOP nominee that ran as a conservative since 1972 has won and everyone that did nto has lost.

All Romnulans can do is parrot, 'Romney is going to get the nomination. Romney will beat Obama. SQUAAWWKKK!!!'

No evidence, no facts, no reason behind any of it. Just this generic 'everybody knows, dude' kind of stupidity.

IF Romney gets the nomination, **** the GOP, I will vote for Obama, a more honest man, even if he is a liberal. Romney wouldnt know what the Truth about anything was even if it bit him in the ass.

If you are going to vote for Obama, you are a fraud, you would vote for him no matter who is the Republican Nominee. You are not fooling anyone. You are here to disrupt and bear false witness. Thanks for playing.

 

[Intense]

To be fair, I think Zander is one of these people who think as long as Wall Street is making money, all is right in America.

Romney is Wall Street's candidate. At a time when Wall Street is about as popular as the Ebola Virus.

Actually, I think Zander is one of these people who doesnt look at Romney, scream "Mormon!" and fight tooth and nail without looking at his policies.

Aside from Romneycare, Romney has a conservative governing record. Not to mention the fact that he made his fortune eliminate waste from companies and making them profitable again. I know you are smearing Romney for his business skills, but I think that's largely because you already dislike him for his mormonism and dont want to take an accurate look at things.

I can see a number of reasons why Romney is a superior candidate to Obama:

1) He sees the need to return power back to the States and to decentralize power away from the Federal Government to be closer to the people. Obama has a 3 year record of doing the opposite.
2) He has a 20+ year record of eliminating waste and corruption and turning businesses and non-profits around. Obama has 3 years of increasing that 100 fold in the Federal government.
3) Romney is not aligned with political radicals seeking to overthrow the nation. And despite his differences with conservatives on some matters, I think he could be persuaded to play ball with reasonable government policies. With Obama in office, conservatives will get nothing. With Romney in office, conservatives can get some policies and possibly persuade Romney into providing others.
4) I see no evidence that Romney wants to micromanage our daily lives. Contrast that with Obama who has been passing Federal laws against people growing food in their Garden.
5) Romney has no desire to see our energy prices necessarily skyrocket, which will be a serious problem this summer & fall. Obama has made statements otherwise.
6) Romney knows how to balance a budget. Obama has problems even creating one.
7) The Supreme Court.

Is Romney perfect? No. But if I can come up with these 7 off the top of my head, im sure I could come up with more if I actually sit down and think about it. There are some clear reasons to support Romney over Obama in a match up this fall. And let's not forget that the census has redistrbuted EC votes to traditionally Red States. That puts Obama at a disadvantage to begin with.

Could Obama win? Yes. But I wouldnt count Romney out at all. And if the left decides to follow your example and attack Romney for his faith, I expect to see a landslide for Romney. I know you dont agree. But that method didn't work well for Stephen Douglas, I dont think it will work for the left this time. Opposing the Church is not a good way to get on the side of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Romney is Mormon!!!



Just messing with ya. I need to crash.

 

[Zander]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.

Romney is going to be the nominee.

Probability does not equal inevitability.

You being a Romnulan, I dont expect you to be able to understand this fact.

Everything hinges on whether Gingrich stays in or bows out soon, at latest before the Texas primary.

If he does not then Romney likely wins, if he does bow out, then my bet would be on Santorum.

My impression is that one should never bet against Gingriches ego winning in the end.

Math must not be your strong point. Santorum will need to win 65% of all the remaining delegates to win. Newt would need to win 70%....neither of those are going to happen.

 

[Avatar4321]

Here is what is wrong with Romney as president:

A Republican House will probably support a Republican president. Romney's liberal leanings will allow for support by Democrats in the Senate. Romney can actually get MORE liberal things passed than Obama.

That's assuming we have a weak ass House.

If we support strong independent Tea Party candidates, who have no problem standing up to the President regardless of party... things might be different.

 

[Avatar4321]

Romney is Mormon!!!



Just messing with ya. I need to crash.

I know, who would have thought?

 

[JoeB131]

Chicago Style Government.

Obviously, you've never lived her, or you'd realize what an assinine statement that is.

Chicago is one of the few cities in the Rust Belt that ain't rusting, for one thing. We still have a lot of new construction, lots of commerce going through here. Sure, our politics are a little hard-knuckled, but it gets the job done.

 

[JoeB131]

Romney is going to be the nominee. Mitt Romney won more than twice as many delegates on Super Tuesday as Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. There is no amount of "spin" that can characterize this as anything but a huge victory.

Romney is going to be the nominee.

Probability does not equal inevitability.

You being a Romnulan, I dont expect you to be able to understand this fact.

Everything hinges on whether Gingrich stays in or bows out soon, at latest before the Texas primary.

If he does not then Romney likely wins, if he does bow out, then my bet would be on Santorum.

My impression is that one should never bet against Gingriches ego winning in the end.

Math must not be your strong point. Santorum will need to win 65% of all the remaining delegates to win. Newt would need to win 70%....neither of those are going to happen.

Probably not. they could get to a brokered convention, and after no one gets in on the first ballot, maybe the delegates will have a stroke of common sense and say, "Jesus, if Romney couldn't outright beat a couple of has-beens, Obama's going to have him for lunch!" And then maybe they'll find someone like Mitch Daniels who can run with some credibility.

I know, it's a long shot. It looks more like they've taken the Mormon Suicide Pact with Romney and are ready to drink the koolaid, despite the fact he's the weakest GOP candidate since Alf Landon.

The sad thing is, Romney will probably take the HOuse down with him, and blow the GOP's shot at retaking the Senate.

 

[JoeB131]

Here is what is wrong with Romney as president:

A Republican House will probably support a Republican president. Romney's liberal leanings will allow for support by Democrats in the Senate. Romney can actually get MORE liberal things passed than Obama.

That's assuming we have a weak ass House.

If we support strong independent Tea Party candidates, who have no problem standing up to the President regardless of party... things might be different.

You don't think the House is already looking to cut the Tea Party off at the Knees.

I live in a district represented by a Tea Party guy. The State GOP is doing nothing to help him and the Legislature has redistricted it to make it harder for him to win. (He doesn't even technically live in the district.)

Many of those TEA party Congressmen are already in marginal swing districts, and with a weak candidate like Romney who is pretty much the oppossite of what TEA stands for, a depressed turnout will be enough to sweep a few of them out.

 

[JoeB131]

He covers a lot, and I want to address his points. Kudos for him for putting the thought into them.

Actually, I think Zander is one of these people who doesnt look at Romney, scream "Mormon!" and fight tooth and nail without looking at his policies.

There's nothing to really look at after that. As far as his policies, what are his policies. Is he pro-life or pro-choice. Pro-gay or anti-gay? For the bailout or against it? For a government mandate or against one? if I focus on his religion, it's because he's all over the map on policy. And then you hear all these reports about how he just can't wait to get past Santorum so he can "tack to the center" and attract those elusive moderates.

Now, I'm not an idealogue. I consider myself conservative on fiscal and defense issues, a moderate on social issues (but not a crazy person who wants to relitigate birth control) and kind of liberal on economic issues, in that I see where the GOP has taken us is completely wrong and making socialism inevitable.

Aside from Romneycare, Romney has a conservative governing record. Not to mention the fact that he made his fortune eliminate waste from companies and making them profitable again. I know you are smearing Romney for his business skills, but I think that's largely because you already dislike him for his mormonism and dont want to take an accurate look at things.

Aside from Romneycare? Isn't that like saying "aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play".

I don't consider it 'smearing', I consider him and people like him to be THE PROBLEM. The problem is what you call waste was really "Guys bringing home decent paychecks for a day's work." Investment doesn't create jobs, consumer demand does. it is ultimately one of those self-defeating things. The strongest defense against creeping European-style socialism is people making good middle class salaries, and having skin in the game.

Which is what I expect from a Mormon. Screwing over the "gentiles" doesn't mean anything.

I can see a number of reasons why Romney is a superior candidate to Obama:

3) Romney is not aligned with political radicals seeking to overthrow the nation. And despite his differences with conservatives on some matters, I think he could be persuaded to play ball with reasonable government policies. With Obama in office, conservatives will get nothing. With Romney in office, conservatives can get some policies and possibly persuade Romney into providing others.

Which "radicals" are those? In fact, Obama has actually been kind of centrist. He even adopted Romney's health care program. Wall Street has done very well under Obama. The rest of us, not so much.

7) The Supreme Court.

Again, the real danger of SCOTUS is not a Democrat replacing liberals with liberals. It's a RINO replacing conservatives with moderates. Scalia and Thomas are not going to retire when Obama's in office. They might if Romney is.

Is Romney perfect? No. But if I can come up with these 7 off the top of my head, im sure I could come up with more if I actually sit down and think about it. There are some clear reasons to support Romney over Obama in a match up this fall. And let's not forget that the census has redistrbuted EC votes to traditionally Red States. That puts Obama at a disadvantage to begin with.

Actually, the EC give Obama a huge advantage. Let's not forget, Obama won 365 EV's last time. 95 more than he needs to win. If he wins everything Kerry or Gore won (very likely) that puts him at 257. All he has to do is win one of the following states to put him over the top- FL, VA, NC or OH. MO or CO (both states MR lost) combined with each other or with Nevada (where MR got less votes than he got in 2008) would also put him over the top.

His baiting of Hispanics to get the Minuteman Vote has put him at a lower standing than McCain. (Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, but it went down to 31% with McCain and Romney currently polls at 25%)

Could Obama win? Yes. But I wouldnt count Romney out at all. And if the left decides to follow your example and attack Romney for his faith, I expect to see a landslide for Romney. I know you dont agree. But that method didn't work well for Stephen Douglas, I dont think it will work for the left this time. Opposing the Church is not a good way to get on the side of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Stephen Douglas? Really?

Actually, the GOP started out as an anti-Mormon party. They called Slavery and Polygamy the twin relics of barbarism.

Here's the thing. Obama won't have to say "Mormon are weird" once. Just like he never had to say "Palin is stupid". The media will do it for him.

But even without Mormonism, you have the fact that the business acumen that you praise left a lot of broken lives in its wake.

When you have an electorate of people who are terrified of losing their jobs, the last thing you want to run is a guy who got rich downsizing working folks and saying stuff like "I like to be able to fire people".

 

[saveliberty]

Here is what is wrong with Romney as president:

A Republican House will probably support a Republican president. Romney's liberal leanings will allow for support by Democrats in the Senate. Romney can actually get MORE liberal things passed than Obama.

That's assuming we have a weak ass House.

If we support strong independent Tea Party candidates, who have no problem standing up to the President regardless of party... things might be different.

I suspect that true conservatives will focus on the House and Senate, as Romney is a lost cause.

 

[Intense]

Chicago Style Government.

Obviously, you've never lived her, or you'd realize what an assinine statement that is.

Chicago is one of the few cities in the Rust Belt that ain't rusting, for one thing. We still have a lot of new construction, lots of commerce going through here. Sure, our politics are a little hard-knuckled, but it gets the job done.

No ******* way!!! You can't even make Pizza right!!!

A little hard knuckled??? Yeah Right.

 

[Intense]

Here is what is wrong with Romney as president:

A Republican House will probably support a Republican president. Romney's liberal leanings will allow for support by Democrats in the Senate. Romney can actually get MORE liberal things passed than Obama.

That's assuming we have a weak ass House.

If we support strong independent Tea Party candidates, who have no problem standing up to the President regardless of party... things might be different.

You don't think the House is already looking to cut the Tea Party off at the Knees.

I live in a district represented by a Tea Party guy. The State GOP is doing nothing to help him and the Legislature has redistricted it to make it harder for him to win. (He doesn't even technically live in the district.)

Many of those TEA party Congressmen are already in marginal swing districts, and with a weak candidate like Romney who is pretty much the oppossite of what TEA stands for, a depressed turnout will be enough to sweep a few of them out.

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