MIT solar PV technology scalable, printable, incorporable into fabrics

[Toddsterpatriot]

Friction is subtracted from total energy not work.

What waste heat there is from electricity usage doesn't heat the surface of the planet. It radiates back to space. Solar radiation heats the surface of the planet. Reduce solar radiation enough and it will affect the planet's climate.

All the work ends up lost to friction.

What waste heat there is from electricity usage doesn't heat the surface of the planet.

Friction between the Tesla's tires and the road heats the surface. The surface then radiates into the air. The electrical resistance heats the wires which then radiate to the air.

Solar radiation heats the surface of the planet.

The surface then radiates to the air.

Reduce solar radiation enough and it will affect the planet's climate.

Increase absorbed solar radiation enough, with dark solar panels, and it will affect the planet's climate.

 

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All the work ends up lost to friction.

What waste heat there is from electricity usage doesn't heat the surface of the planet.

Friction between the Tesla's tires and the road heats the surface. The surface then radiates into the air. The electrical resistance heats the wires which then radiate to the air.

Solar radiation heats the surface of the planet.

The surface then radiates to the air.

Reduce solar radiation enough and it will affect the planet's climate.

Increase absorbed solar radiation enough, with dark solar panels, and it will affect the planet's climate.

Post empirical data that shows an incremental warming occurred from electricity usage or it didn't happen.

Because I have empirical data that shows an incremental cooling occurred at six solar farms.

 

[there4eyeM]

Exxon must be protected from the encroachments of solar energy development.

 

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Exxon must be protected from the encroachments of solar energy development.

Or it's just a bad idea to capture solar radiation in the middle of an ice age. Why isn't it that no one realizes how precariously close the planet is to a extensive northern hemisphere glaciation or that the last 3 million years the planet has been extremely cold relative to today's temperature?

 

[Cellblock2429]

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[skookerasbil]

About 117 people care about this........

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Post empirical data that shows an incremental warming occurred from electricity usage or it didn't happen.

Because I have empirical data that shows an incremental cooling occurred at six solar farms.

Post empirical data that shows an incremental warming occurred from electricity usage or it didn't happen.

Post empirical data that shows energy is destroyed by electricity usage or it didn't happen.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

/---/ Amazing innovation --- if it works.

I'm sure it's awesome!
At 5 times the cost of regular awesome solar power.

 

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Post empirical data that shows an incremental warming occurred from electricity usage or it didn't happen.

Post empirical data that shows energy is destroyed by electricity usage or it didn't happen.

Never claimed that so don't need to. I'm claiming waste heat isn't warming the planet. You claim it is. Post your empirical data or it didn't happen.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I'm sure it's awesome!
At 5 times the cost of regular awesome solar power.

/——/ I agree, but the first PCs and iPhones were so expensive only the rich could afford them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Never claimed that so don't need to. I'm claiming waste heat isn't warming the planet. You claim it is. Post your empirical data or it didn't happen.

You're claiming that solar panels, with a much lower albedo, cause the planet to cool.

Still funny.

 

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You're claiming that solar panels, with a much lower albedo, cause the planet to cool.

Still funny.

There is empirical data that shows incremental cooling occurred at six solar farms after PV panels were installed due to converting solar radiation into electricity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There is empirical data that shows incremental cooling occurred at six solar farms after PV panels were installed due to converting solar radiation into electricity.

Lower albedo is never going to cool the planet.

You're reducing solar energy immediately bouncing back to space from around 40% to around 5%.

Even if you converted all of that extra 35% that was retained, into electricity, and no solar panel is that efficient yet, most of that electricity ends up as waste heat (except probably a tiny amount).

100 watts of solar energy hitting the surface would end up as 95 watts of heat instead of 60 watts of heat.

 

[Crick]

There is empirical data that shows incremental cooling occurred at six solar farms after PV panels were installed due to converting solar radiation into electricity.

So, under the full sun, the jet black solar panels were cooler than the soil and plant surfaces they replaced?

 

[there4eyeM]

Just wanted to say...
uh, never mind.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, under the full sun, the jet black solar panels were cooler than the soil and plant surfaces they replaced?

 

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Lower albedo is never going to cool the planet.

You're reducing solar energy immediately bouncing back to space from around 40% to around 5%.

Even if you converted all of that extra 35% that was retained, into electricity, and no solar panel is that efficient yet, most of that electricity ends up as waste heat (except probably a tiny amount).

100 watts of solar energy hitting the surface would end up as 95 watts of heat instead of 60 watts of heat.

Post your empirical data that electricity usage incrementally warms the planet or it didn't happen.

 

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So, under the full sun, the jet black solar panels were cooler than the soil and plant surfaces they replaced?

No, converting solar radiation into electricity is why there was an incremental cooling after PV cells were installed. Darker panels are used to capture more solar radiation - solar radiation which didn't warm the surface of the planet because it was converted into electricity. So the net effect is an incremental cooling relative to no PV cells.

Do you know how solar panels work? Do you know how visible light produces warming?

I

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

solar radiation which didn't warm the surface of the planet because it was converted into electricity.

Why do you feel the electricity doesn't warm the planet?
Not to mention the extra 35% of the sunlight absorbed by the panels?

Do you have some sort of new physics you're not sharing?

 

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Why do you feel the electricity doesn't warm the planet?
Not to mention the extra 35% of the sunlight absorbed by the panels?

Do you have some sort of new physics you're not sharing?

I have empirical data from six solar farms that prove converting solar radiation into electricity creates an incremental cooling effect.

You don't have any empirical data that shows electricity usage offsets or exceeds that incremental cooling effect.