Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source(Fox news!)

[Derideo_Te]

An alternate definition;

racism (noun)
An undetectable and unmeasurable “systemic, societal, institutional, omnipresent, and epistemologically embedded phenomenon that pervades every vestige of our reality” (in the words of Negro scholar Omowale Akintunde), forcing brown-skinned people to fail out of school, smoke crack, not get a job, abandon their kids, contract AIDS, commit every crime at a staggering rate, underperform on culturally unbiased tests of highly heritable cognitive abilities, and generally act like a bunch of goddamn jungle savages, thus making them seem inferior to whites in every way outside of certain sports, or at least certain positions in certain sports (and to which Asians are somehow, mysteriously immune).
Usually rendered blatant racism.

In minorities, the leading cause of depression, death, animal and child abuse, tears, impotence, low self-esteem, persistent whining, and congestive heart failure. Literally the worst thing in the entire world.

racist (adjective)

1. Expressing, suggesting, or hinting at discomforting truths about race.
2. Failing to sufficiently denigrate and discriminate against whites.
3. Directed at a white person by a non-white person: causing the speaker, or some (actual or hypothetical) like-race individual, to feel (or suspect that he may feel) unwanted, uncared for, unlikeable, uneasy, uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, hurt, cross, inferior, or stupid in some way.

but seriously...

This condition you call "racism" has always existed and it always will.

Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race.
Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them.

That's just the way it is and all attempts at marxist social engineering to create artificial "equality"...or lowering standards in order to ensure "equality" do nothing to improve society and, in fact, lead to further racial friction.

I'm going to disagree with this bit: "Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race. Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them."

We had a mix of 'ethnic' background friends of the family and it was never a big deal when I was growing up. I worked for a black (sorry if I'm behind in the correct PC term for that) couple who owned two local strip clubs, they were up n up good people; ex-wife was a bit of a bitch, but hell there's a lot of white bitches too. My boss, however, was a far too nice guy; he was always giving extra money to the drug addict dancers (we had 2 in particular) and trying to get them out of dugs and stuff. He even took one of them shopping every year to get school clothes and supplies for her kids every year. Anyway, I didn't want to drive with the drunks after bar close so we'd sit around chatting about everything under the sun while we did all the day end stuff (cleaning, stocking, bookkeeping, ordering, etc.) I think the only thing we ever even disagreed about was me cutting off dancers who got drunk (law) and him thinking that was intrusive (shouldn't be a law) we had some good debates about it heh

I digress, my point is I don't think there is an innate desire to self-segregate, I think it's a taught behavior.

I disagree. It isn't "taught", it's normal human behavior.
Your empirical observation of a limited group in controlled conditions for a limited time, doesn't overrule thousands of years of history.

Humans are tribal and ethnocentric and when left alone they self segregate because people like to be around people who share their customs, culture, language.

Utter nonsense! If that was true this nation would never have been founded in the first place. America is a mix of customs, culture and yes, languages too.

 

[EverCurious]

Where did make any such allegation that it was "an execution style killing buy a cop"?

Sounds more like an attempt to apprehend a suspect going horribly wrong in my opinion.

Wilson tries to arrest Brown, Brown resists and flees, Wilson says stop or I will shoot, Brown keeps running so Wilson opens fire, Brown decides to surrender so he stops and turns around to give himself up!

All of the above is probably covered under SOP.

However Wilson subsequently shot and killed Brown. We don't know why he did that and there is no police procedure for shooting a suspect who is surrendering. FPD is not telling us anything and that is making the situation worse.

Hopefully the FBI will release their findings sooner rather than later.

By that argument though SOP would say that Wilson would hold his fire when Brown turned around - You've told them to freeze, fired off a couple shots, and the suspect turns. There 'should' be a pause to allow said suspect to get down on the ground right? Unless they charge you or go for a gun of course.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Apparently you don't know much about shock.

He's a professional police officer. He's been trained in dealing with combat stress and shooting. He's not a little girl who grabbed her daddy's gun and shot a home intruder.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Did you guys discuss how Michael Brown got his shots to the top of his head?
(sheesh, or was there not shots to the top of his head and that was speculation?)

Did he get the shots to the top of his head from bending as he was running and charging towards officer Wilson?

Or was Michael Brown falling from all of the other non lethal shots in to him, thus the top of his head was towards officer Wilson?

If this was discussed, I apologize....but could someone give me a quick synopsis...I have to get back to work...

Being rated for on-duty carry of a Glock 17 9mm, .38/.357 revolver, and .45 Fed Ord 1911 myt hinking about the headshots was he was rapid-firing and the recoil and increaing fatigue combined with adrenaline made the muzzle flip upwards on the last two shots.

When you rapid-fire a pistol, the recoil makes holding it on target a serious strain. Dunno how many shots he fired or what claiber his weapon was, but by 6 shots your hands are gonna be a lot weaker than were when you fired the first shot. That the hit pattern seemed to be moving bottom to topalong his arm, last two hitting his eye then head isn't surprising.

Except that the top 2 shots entered the head from above according to the autopsy. That means that the top of Brown's head was facing Wilson when he fired those shots. So the more likely scenario is that Brown was attempting to comply with orders to "get down on the ground" when Wilson fired those shots.

Yes, that is speculation on my part but how else can they be explained?

 

[EverCurious]

He's a professional police officer. He's been trained in dealing with combat stress and shooting. He's not a little girl who grabbed her daddy's gun and shot a home intruder.

Agreed, and my husband paced around for nearly 30 minutes after taking a moose to the face at 65MPH. (Multiple fractures to his neck)

 

[Derideo_Te]

Where did make any such allegation that it was "an execution style killing buy a cop"?

Sounds more like an attempt to apprehend a suspect going horribly wrong in my opinion.

Wilson tries to arrest Brown, Brown resists and flees, Wilson says stop or I will shoot, Brown keeps running so Wilson opens fire, Brown decides to surrender so he stops and turns around to give himself up!

All of the above is probably covered under SOP.

However Wilson subsequently shot and killed Brown. We don't know why he did that and there is no police procedure for shooting a suspect who is surrendering. FPD is not telling us anything and that is making the situation worse.

Hopefully the FBI will release their findings sooner rather than later.

By that argument though SOP would say that Wilson would hold his fire when Brown turned around - You've told them to freeze, fired off a couple shots, and the suspect turns. There 'should' be a pause to allow said suspect to get down on the ground right? Unless they charge you or go for a gun of course.

Exactly! Which is why the final shooting makes no sense. Why would Brown turn around to surrender and then suddenly decide to charge the officer knowing that he was armed and had already shot at him?

This is why we need the FBI report.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Except that the top 2 shots entered the head from above according to the autopsy. That means that the top of Brown's head was facing Wilson when he fired those shots. So the more likely scenario is that Brown was attempting to comply with orders to "get down on the ground" when Wilson fired those shots.

Yes, that is speculation on my part but how else can they be explained?

The first 4 to the arm wouldn't stop him if enraged and charging at the officer, the one to the eye would have though so as the ME stated at the press conference the one to the top of the head was probably the last shot. But after being shot in the eye, that would have made him fall, especially if it penetrated the brain. He may well have been dead from that hit and falling foward when the final round went in on top of his head as the officer stopped firing.

Gotta figure if the officer intended to kill him from the beginning he coulda done that with less than 6 shots. The fact that so many were used and 6 hit the body including 4 to the arm suggest the officer rapid-fired and the cumulative recoil brough the barrel higher and higher and the 2 head shots were incidental and not aimed shots.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Adrenaline.

Maybe. But googling around, I'm not the only one asking about why no medical attention or concern over injuries on the officer. No ambulance called, no first aid rendered, something stinks.

Im not on anyone's side but the right side. If someone lies I'm all over their ass. And up to now, I'd not felt the officer or police had lied. But I gotta say, this sounds deceptive. Googling orbital blowout fractures, selecting Images, they're really obvious even without any blood. The officer might be oblivious from adrenaline, but no one looking at him would be. Yet no concern on the video, no one calling an ambulance for him? That's suspicious.

From the Faux News "“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.” ""

So the Assistant PC came out to the scene after Wilson called him? And left Brown in the street with no ambulance and drove Wilson to the hospital?

I think the first witnesses who talked to the press would have certainly said something about this.

And so everyone at the hospital who attended Wilson has been told to be quiet and not talk to the press?

Bahahahahaa.....Bullshit. This is called a planted lie. Another set up like "Josie", Wilson's wife's BFF who knows how it all happened.

Typical libtard bullshit. The cop with a clean record is lying and I guess got his face busted up for cover, while the two jack asses that just robbed a store are telling the truth, all with very few established facts.

Just wondering, do you realize no one in American believes you bullshit lies about this incident any more, except for you libtards?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Eric Holder, our color-blinded AG

 

[EverCurious]

Well if we rely upon the newly found witness in the UK video; the witness said that Brown was already facing the officer and that Wilson had already hit Brown, Brown had his arm(s) over his stomach, at which point Wilson fired off three or four more shots - so only 'one' of the shots would be after the supposed attempt to comply and the other two or three would be as Brown was going down to the ground ~ and again I point out the Brown's final body posture, it is not really consistent with him getting down on the ground or his hands would have been under his chest/out to catch his body/weight, instead they are in fact curled up around his stomach just as the witness said. As to what that means to the case, one can speculate:

Was Brown charging, took a shot to the arm and 'cradled' his arm across his waist, which Wilson perhaps interpreted as going for a gun and thus fired off the additional 3-4 shots?

Was Brown running, took a hit (say the palm or the arm shot Brown's family claims could have come from behind) then turned to 'surrender' got hit again in the arm, and head shots on the way down?

Was Brown charging, cradled his arm when it got hit, then went down and took the head shots on the way down?

OR just for the hell of it, Brown's charging, gets shot in the arm, cradles it, then trips on his sandals and falls causing the final two shots to his head?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Where did make any such allegation that it was "an execution style killing buy a cop"?

Sounds more like an attempt to apprehend a suspect going horribly wrong in my opinion.

Wilson tries to arrest Brown, Brown resists and flees, Wilson says stop or I will shoot, Brown keeps running so Wilson opens fire, Brown decides to surrender so he stops and turns around to give himself up!

All of the above is probably covered under SOP.

However Wilson subsequently shot and killed Brown. We don't know why he did that and there is no police procedure for shooting a suspect who is surrendering. FPD is not telling us anything and that is making the situation worse.

Hopefully the FBI will release their findings sooner rather than later.

By that argument though SOP would say that Wilson would hold his fire when Brown turned around - You've told them to freeze, fired off a couple shots, and the suspect turns. There 'should' be a pause to allow said suspect to get down on the ground right? Unless they charge you or go for a gun of course.

Exactly! Which is why the final shooting makes no sense. Why would Brown turn around to surrender and then suddenly decide to charge the officer knowing that he was armed and had already shot at him?

Brown was a stupid, angry, foolish over-grown child. He attacked the cop is a fact, and why is a matter of speculation that only belly button gazing jackasses like you get worked up over.

FACT: Justified homicide by cop on thug. End of all the story that matters.

This is why we need the FBI report.

Lol, no, we do not need one more cook in the kitchen, but Holder will be trying to obfuscate as much of the facts as possible and pursue prosecution of Wilson no matter what.

Wilson is the new Zimmerman and this time they actually have an Anglo white man which no doubt please them to no end.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well if we rely upon the newly found witness in the UK video; the witness said that Brown was already facing the officer and that Wilson had already hit Brown, Brown had his arm(s) over his stomach, at which point Wilson fired off three or four more shots - so only 'one' of the shots would be after the supposed attempt to comply and the other two or three would be as Brown was going down to the ground ~ and again I point out the Brown's final body posture, it is not really consistent with him getting down on the ground or his hands would have been under his chest/out to catch his body/weight, instead they are in fact curled up around his stomach just as the witness said. As to what that means to the case, one can speculate:

Was Brown charging, took a shot to the arm and 'cradled' his arm across his waist, which Wilson perhaps interpreted as going for a gun and thus fired off the additional 3-4 shots?

Was Brown running, took a hit (say the palm or the arm shot Brown's family claims could have come from behind) then turned to 'surrender' got hit again in the arm, and head shots on the way down?

Was Brown charging, cradled his arm when it got hit, then went down and took the head shots on the way down?

OR just for the hell of it, Brown's charging, gets shot in the arm, cradles it, then trips on his sandals and falls causing the final two shots to his head?

No, it was another Magic Bullet, you know like the one they found on the stretcher at the Ft Worth hospital in 1963. The SAME bullet went through Browns arm twice, then somehow altered its trajectory went UP through the eye socket, flipped over then came back down into the head.

Just as good a theory, apparently, as anything else told so far.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Well if we rely upon the newly found witness in the UK video; the witness said that Brown was already facing the officer and that Wilson had already hit Brown, Brown had his arm(s) over his stomach, at which point Wilson fired off three or four more shots - so only 'one' of the shots would be after the supposed attempt to comply and the other two or three would be as Brown was going down to the ground ~ and again I point out the Brown's final body posture, it is not really consistent with him getting down on the ground or his hands would have been under his chest/out to catch his body/weight, instead they are in fact curled up around his stomach just as the witness said. As to what that means to the case, one can speculate:

Was Brown charging, took a shot to the arm and 'cradled' his arm across his waist, which Wilson perhaps interpreted as going for a gun and thus fired off the additional 3-4 shots?

Was Brown running, took a hit (say the palm or the arm shot Brown's family claims could have come from behind) then turned to 'surrender' got hit again in the arm, and head shots on the way down?

Was Brown charging, cradled his arm when it got hit, then went down and took the head shots on the way down?

OR just for the hell of it, Brown's charging, gets shot in the arm, cradles it, then trips on his sandals and falls causing the final two shots to his head?

More time goes on, the less reliable new witnesses are since their account has been polluted by all the press coverage.

Ultimately, none of the eye-witness accounts for or against will matter though. It was a justified shoot since the original stop for j-walking established legitimacy for everythign that followed. Only thing that needs to be proven at a trial will be did Mr. Brown touch the officer in a hostile manner? If so, officer's vindicated. That's Assault on a Police Officer in the 2nd degree since being a big football player sorta guy that easily constitutes 'fear of serious injury.'

 

[Derideo_Te]

Except that the top 2 shots entered the head from above according to the autopsy. That means that the top of Brown's head was facing Wilson when he fired those shots. So the more likely scenario is that Brown was attempting to comply with orders to "get down on the ground" when Wilson fired those shots.

Yes, that is speculation on my part but how else can they be explained?

The first 4 to the arm wouldn't stop him if enraged and charging at the officer, the one to the eye would have though so as the ME stated at the press conference the one to the top of the head was probably the last shot. But after being shot in the eye, that would have made him fall, especially if it penetrated the brain. He may well have been dead from that hit and falling foward when the final round went in on top of his head as the officer stopped firing.

Gotta figure if the officer intended to kill him from the beginning he coulda done that with less than 6 shots. The fact that so many were used and 6 hit the body including 4 to the arm suggest the officer rapid-fired and the cumulative recoil brough the barrel higher and higher and the 2 head shots were incidental and not aimed shots.

The shot to the eye entered from the top of the head exited out of the jaw and hit the shoulder. Therefore it was fired when the top of Brown's head was facing Wilson.

The shots to the right arm might have occurred as Brown was turning around and raising his hands in surrender.

If the officer was rapid firing he might not have realized that Brown was attempting to surrender as he was turning around. So he didn't stop pulling the trigger until it was too late.

That doesn't exonerate the officer. When you pull the trigger you are responsible for that round. If it hits an innocent passerby that is your responsibility. Wilson was firing at someone who wasn't shooting back. He has to take some responsibility here.

However this all went down in the time it took to rapid fire a couple of shots. By the time Wilson realized that Brown was surrendering the fatal shots had already been fired in my opinion.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

The shot to the eye entered from the top of the head exited out of the jaw and hit the shoulder. Therefore it was fired when the top of Brown's head was facing Wilson.

The shots to the right arm might have occurred as Brown was turning around and raising his hands in surrender.

If the officer was rapid firing he might not have realized that Brown was attempting to surrender as he was turning around. So he didn't stop pulling the trigger until it was too late.

That doesn't exonerate the officer. When you pull the trigger you are responsible for that round. If it hits an innocent passerby that is your responsibility. Wilson was firing at someone who wasn't shooting back. He has to take some responsibility here.

However this all went down in the time it took to rapid fire a couple of shots. By the time Wilson realized that Brown was surrendering the fatal shots had already been fired in my opinion.

"If the officer was rapid firing he might not have realized that Brown was attempting to surrender as he was turning around. So he didn't stop pulling the trigger until it was too late."

That's plausible. Once you begin firing you're focusing on the front site over the target, not so much what the target's arms might be doing or what he may be saying.

I think the ME said the shot to the eye entered through the eye and exited out the eyebrow, or reverse of that. Final shot to the head I don't recall, was more interested in the eye shot since those are usually fatal.

 

[JimBowie1958]

An alternate definition;

racism (noun)
An undetectable and unmeasurable “systemic, societal, institutional, omnipresent, and epistemologically embedded phenomenon that pervades every vestige of our reality” (in the words of Negro scholar Omowale Akintunde), forcing brown-skinned people to fail out of school, smoke crack, not get a job, abandon their kids, contract AIDS, commit every crime at a staggering rate, underperform on culturally unbiased tests of highly heritable cognitive abilities, and generally act like a bunch of goddamn jungle savages, thus making them seem inferior to whites in every way outside of certain sports, or at least certain positions in certain sports (and to which Asians are somehow, mysteriously immune).
Usually rendered blatant racism.

In minorities, the leading cause of depression, death, animal and child abuse, tears, impotence, low self-esteem, persistent whining, and congestive heart failure. Literally the worst thing in the entire world.

racist (adjective)

1. Expressing, suggesting, or hinting at discomforting truths about race.
2. Failing to sufficiently denigrate and discriminate against whites.
3. Directed at a white person by a non-white person: causing the speaker, or some (actual or hypothetical) like-race individual, to feel (or suspect that he may feel) unwanted, uncared for, unlikeable, uneasy, uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, hurt, cross, inferior, or stupid in some way.

but seriously...

This condition you call "racism" has always existed and it always will.

Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race.
Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them.

That's just the way it is and all attempts at marxist social engineering to create artificial "equality"...or lowering standards in order to ensure "equality" do nothing to improve society and, in fact, lead to further racial friction.

I'm going to disagree with this bit: "Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race. Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them."

We had a mix of 'ethnic' background friends of the family and it was never a big deal when I was growing up. I worked for a black (sorry if I'm behind in the correct PC term for that) couple who owned two local strip clubs, they were up n up good people; ex-wife was a bit of a bitch, but hell there's a lot of white bitches too. My boss, however, was a far too nice guy; he was always giving extra money to the drug addict dancers (we had 2 in particular) and trying to get them out of dugs and stuff. He even took one of them shopping every year to get school clothes and supplies for her kids every year. Anyway, I didn't want to drive with the drunks after bar close so we'd sit around chatting about everything under the sun while we did all the day end stuff (cleaning, stocking, bookkeeping, ordering, etc.) I think the only thing we ever even disagreed about was me cutting off dancers who got drunk (law) and him thinking that was intrusive (shouldn't be a law) we had some good debates about it heh

I digress, my point is I don't think there is an innate desire to self-segregate, I think it's a taught behavior.

I disagree. It isn't "taught", it's normal human behavior.
Your empirical observation of a limited group in controlled conditions for a limited time, doesn't overrule thousands of years of history.

Humans are tribal and ethnocentric and when left alone they self segregate because people like to be around people who share their customs, culture, language.

Utter nonsense! If that was true this nation would never have been founded in the first place. America is a mix of customs, culture and yes, languages too.

Yeah, a mix like a salad bowl, not a stew. These communities assimilate to a degree, learning the language mostly, but the main thing that united ethnics in this country is being bleached out of its culture; the right to be free, to speak freely, to live where you want and make as much money as you want.

You neoMarxist shits want to change that to a nation of serfs working for the government all year round.

 

[Derideo_Te]

An alternate definition;

racism (noun)
An undetectable and unmeasurable “systemic, societal, institutional, omnipresent, and epistemologically embedded phenomenon that pervades every vestige of our reality” (in the words of Negro scholar Omowale Akintunde), forcing brown-skinned people to fail out of school, smoke crack, not get a job, abandon their kids, contract AIDS, commit every crime at a staggering rate, underperform on culturally unbiased tests of highly heritable cognitive abilities, and generally act like a bunch of goddamn jungle savages, thus making them seem inferior to whites in every way outside of certain sports, or at least certain positions in certain sports (and to which Asians are somehow, mysteriously immune).
Usually rendered blatant racism.

In minorities, the leading cause of depression, death, animal and child abuse, tears, impotence, low self-esteem, persistent whining, and congestive heart failure. Literally the worst thing in the entire world.

racist (adjective)

1. Expressing, suggesting, or hinting at discomforting truths about race.
2. Failing to sufficiently denigrate and discriminate against whites.
3. Directed at a white person by a non-white person: causing the speaker, or some (actual or hypothetical) like-race individual, to feel (or suspect that he may feel) unwanted, uncared for, unlikeable, uneasy, uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, hurt, cross, inferior, or stupid in some way.

but seriously...

This condition you call "racism" has always existed and it always will.

Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race.
Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them.

That's just the way it is and all attempts at marxist social engineering to create artificial "equality"...or lowering standards in order to ensure "equality" do nothing to improve society and, in fact, lead to further racial friction.

I'm going to disagree with this bit: "Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race. Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them."

We had a mix of 'ethnic' background friends of the family and it was never a big deal when I was growing up. I worked for a black (sorry if I'm behind in the correct PC term for that) couple who owned two local strip clubs, they were up n up good people; ex-wife was a bit of a bitch, but hell there's a lot of white bitches too. My boss, however, was a far too nice guy; he was always giving extra money to the drug addict dancers (we had 2 in particular) and trying to get them out of dugs and stuff. He even took one of them shopping every year to get school clothes and supplies for her kids every year. Anyway, I didn't want to drive with the drunks after bar close so we'd sit around chatting about everything under the sun while we did all the day end stuff (cleaning, stocking, bookkeeping, ordering, etc.) I think the only thing we ever even disagreed about was me cutting off dancers who got drunk (law) and him thinking that was intrusive (shouldn't be a law) we had some good debates about it heh

I digress, my point is I don't think there is an innate desire to self-segregate, I think it's a taught behavior.

I disagree. It isn't "taught", it's normal human behavior.
Your empirical observation of a limited group in controlled conditions for a limited time, doesn't overrule thousands of years of history.

Humans are tribal and ethnocentric and when left alone they self segregate because people like to be around people who share their customs, culture, language.

Utter nonsense! If that was true this nation would never have been founded in the first place. America is a mix of customs, culture and yes, languages too.

Yeah, a mix like a salad bowl, not a stew. These communities assimilate to a degree, learning the language mostly, but the main thing that united ethnics in this country is being bleached out of its culture; the right to be free, to speak freely, to live where you want and make as much money as you want.

You neoMarxist shits want to change that to a nation of serfs working for the government all year round.

Since you cannot refute the truth about this nation you resort to the mindless pablum of the extreme right that has no basis in reality.

 

[80zephyr]

Adrenaline.

Maybe. But googling around, I'm not the only one asking about why no medical attention or concern over injuries on the officer. No ambulance called, no first aid rendered, something stinks.

Im not on anyone's side but the right side. If someone lies I'm all over their ass. And up to now, I'd not felt the officer or police had lied. But I gotta say, this sounds deceptive. Googling orbital blowout fractures, selecting Images, they're really obvious even without any blood. The officer might be oblivious from adrenaline, but no one looking at him would be. Yet no concern on the video, no one calling an ambulance for him? That's suspicious.

From the Faux News "“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.” ""

So the Assistant PC came out to the scene after Wilson called him? And left Brown in the street with no ambulance and drove Wilson to the hospital?

I think the first witnesses who talked to the press would have certainly said something about this.

And so everyone at the hospital who attended Wilson has been told to be quiet and not talk to the press?

Bahahahahaa.....Bullshit. This is called a planted lie. Another set up like "Josie", Wilson's wife's BFF who knows how it all happened.

I have family in the "medical" business. You are not allowed to say anything about anyones condition. It would get you fired.

Mark

 

[EverCurious]

No, it was another Magic Bullet, you know like the one they found on the stretcher at the Ft Worth hospital in 1963. The SAME bullet went through Browns arm twice, then somehow altered its trajectory went UP through the eye socket, flipped over then came back down into the head.

Just as good a theory, apparently, as anything else told so far.

idk the autopsy report they were saying one bullet entered, exited, and reentered some five times - that's kind of astounding if you step back and think about it... Is it the cheek one, like it bounced of his cheek bone but the downward motion of his body caused it to go in again?

More time goes on, the less reliable new witnesses are since their account has been polluted by all the press coverage.

Ultimately, none of the eye-witness accounts for or against will matter though. It was a justified shoot since the original stop for j-walking established legitimacy for everythign that followed. Only thing that needs to be proven at a trial will be did Mr. Brown touch the officer in a hostile manner? If so, officer's vindicated. That's Assault on a Police Officer in the 2nd degree since being a big football player sorta guy that easily constitutes 'fear of serious injury.'

One could argue the witness accounts were polluted almost immediately though because at the scene they were already starting to pass around the story he had his hands up in surrender.

The shot to the eye entered from the top of the head exited out of the jaw and hit the shoulder. Therefore it was fired when the top of Brown's head was facing Wilson.

The shots to the right arm might have occurred as Brown was turning around and raising his hands in surrender.

If the officer was rapid firing he might not have realized that Brown was attempting to surrender as he was turning around. So he didn't stop pulling the trigger until it was too late.

That doesn't exonerate the officer. When you pull the trigger you are responsible for that round. If it hits an innocent passerby that is your responsibility. Wilson was firing at someone who wasn't shooting back. He has to take some responsibility here.

However this all went down in the time it took to rapid fire a couple of shots. By the time Wilson realized that Brown was surrendering the fatal shots had already been fired in my opinion.

I'm not seeing this plausible... If Brown is turning and raising his hands, why would Wilson be recklessly shooting to the left of Browns body/head? Plus that doesn't fit the witness statement nor body position which puts Brown's arms over his stomach.

 

[Rotagilla]

An alternate definition;

racism (noun)
An undetectable and unmeasurable “systemic, societal, institutional, omnipresent, and epistemologically embedded phenomenon that pervades every vestige of our reality” (in the words of Negro scholar Omowale Akintunde), forcing brown-skinned people to fail out of school, smoke crack, not get a job, abandon their kids, contract AIDS, commit every crime at a staggering rate, underperform on culturally unbiased tests of highly heritable cognitive abilities, and generally act like a bunch of goddamn jungle savages, thus making them seem inferior to whites in every way outside of certain sports, or at least certain positions in certain sports (and to which Asians are somehow, mysteriously immune).
Usually rendered blatant racism.

In minorities, the leading cause of depression, death, animal and child abuse, tears, impotence, low self-esteem, persistent whining, and congestive heart failure. Literally the worst thing in the entire world.

racist (adjective)

1. Expressing, suggesting, or hinting at discomforting truths about race.
2. Failing to sufficiently denigrate and discriminate against whites.
3. Directed at a white person by a non-white person: causing the speaker, or some (actual or hypothetical) like-race individual, to feel (or suspect that he may feel) unwanted, uncared for, unlikeable, uneasy, uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, hurt, cross, inferior, or stupid in some way.

but seriously...

This condition you call "racism" has always existed and it always will.

Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race.
Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them.

That's just the way it is and all attempts at marxist social engineering to create artificial "equality"...or lowering standards in order to ensure "equality" do nothing to improve society and, in fact, lead to further racial friction.

I'm going to disagree with this bit: "Here's how the real world works; Humans are tribal and ethnocentric creatures (and given the freedom to do so without government interference) will always self segregate into groups according to race. Humans like to be around other people who share their culture, history and beliefs and tend to reject outsiders who aren't like them."

We had a mix of 'ethnic' background friends of the family and it was never a big deal when I was growing up. I worked for a black (sorry if I'm behind in the correct PC term for that) couple who owned two local strip clubs, they were up n up good people; ex-wife was a bit of a bitch, but hell there's a lot of white bitches too. My boss, however, was a far too nice guy; he was always giving extra money to the drug addict dancers (we had 2 in particular) and trying to get them out of dugs and stuff. He even took one of them shopping every year to get school clothes and supplies for her kids every year. Anyway, I didn't want to drive with the drunks after bar close so we'd sit around chatting about everything under the sun while we did all the day end stuff (cleaning, stocking, bookkeeping, ordering, etc.) I think the only thing we ever even disagreed about was me cutting off dancers who got drunk (law) and him thinking that was intrusive (shouldn't be a law) we had some good debates about it heh

I digress, my point is I don't think there is an innate desire to self-segregate, I think it's a taught behavior.

I disagree. It isn't "taught", it's normal human behavior.
Your empirical observation of a limited group in controlled conditions for a limited time, doesn't overrule thousands of years of history.

Humans are tribal and ethnocentric and when left alone they self segregate because people like to be around people who share their customs, culture, language.

Utter nonsense! If that was true this nation would never have been founded in the first place. America is a mix of customs, culture and yes, languages too.

Faulty logic. EXTREMELY faulty logic.