Mississippi...more gun carrying, and after a year....nothing happens...

[2aguy]

Violent crime is down nation wide

Even in states with strict gun control

NYC Murder Rate Drops To New Historic Low In 2014 Gothamist

Meh, blue flu

-Geaux
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Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage

It’s not a slowdown — it’s a virtual work stoppage.

NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops — as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.

The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold anemergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration.

The unprecedented meeting is being held at the new Police Academy in Queens at 2 p.m., sources said.

Angry union leaders have ordered drastic measures for their members since the Dec. 20 assassination of two NYPD cops in a patrol car, including that two units respond to every call.

It has helped contribute to a nose dive in low-level policing, with overall arrests down 66 percent for the week starting Dec. 22 compared with the same period in 2013, stats show.

Citations for traffic violations fell by 94 percent, from 10,069 to 587, during that time frame.

Arrests plummet 66 with NYPD in virtual work stoppage New York Post

That is ridiculous. That work stoppage lasted a few weeks and only affected non-violent offenses

NYC has the strictest gun laws in the nation and their murder rate is at all time lows

And because they stopped Stop and Frisk...the policy that actually decreased gun crime, their murder rates are going up again......

 

[2aguy]

Meh, blue flu

-Geaux
------

Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage

It’s not a slowdown — it’s a virtual work stoppage.

NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops — as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.

The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold anemergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration.

The unprecedented meeting is being held at the new Police Academy in Queens at 2 p.m., sources said.

Angry union leaders have ordered drastic measures for their members since the Dec. 20 assassination of two NYPD cops in a patrol car, including that two units respond to every call.

It has helped contribute to a nose dive in low-level policing, with overall arrests down 66 percent for the week starting Dec. 22 compared with the same period in 2013, stats show.

Citations for traffic violations fell by 94 percent, from 10,069 to 587, during that time frame.

Arrests plummet 66 with NYPD in virtual work stoppage New York Post

That is ridiculous. That work stoppage lasted a few weeks and only affected non-violent offenses

NYC has the strictest gun laws in the nation and their murder rate is at all time lows

And I can point our countries with more lax gun laws that have a lower murder rate then NYC

-Geaux

Please do that and we can talk

When the appropriate thread presents itself

BTW- Can't blame it on the failed black culture experiment here in the US.

-Geaux

Why don't you start here

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

New York has a murder rate of 3.3 ....show me a country with a lower murder rate that has lax gun controls

I would say Switzerland....a gun in every home.......a military grade gun....

 

[2aguy]

We can already see that states with strict gun controls have lower murder rates than those with loose gun control

But how effective is the death penalty?

For 2013, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty states was 4.4, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.4



Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

Here we go....watch the video and learn....

 

[2aguy]

We can already see that states with strict gun controls have lower murder rates than those with loose gun control

But how effective is the death penalty?

For 2013, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty states was 4.4, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.4



Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

More anti gun nut propaganda that fudges the numbers rather than telling the truth.....

Do Strict Gun Laws Really Stop Gun Crime TheBlaze.com

Kopel and his peers point to the work of the award winning liberal criminologist Gary Kleck, whose books on the subject of gun control earned him the Michael J. Hindelang award (one of the most prestigious awards in criminology). Kleck’s books were cited by those arguing for gun rights in the landmark Supreme Court case District of Columbia v. Heller, and still form the core of many gun rights advocates’ case against the concept, despite originating in the mid-to-late 90′s.

Kleck’s meticulous study on gun control in 75 major cities — his key results are summed up neatly in the following video — not only disproved any correlation between gun laws and a reduction in gun crime, but also showed that using gun deaths to try and measure the effect of gun laws could be an overly misleading statistic. According to Kleck, one also had to know how many times people used guns for self-defense versus how much they used them in the pursuit of criminal efforts.

 

[NLT]

Texas Senate Approves Open Carry of Handguns The Texas Tribune

Suck it libturds

 

[Brain357]

That is ridiculous. That work stoppage lasted a few weeks and only affected non-violent offenses

NYC has the strictest gun laws in the nation and their murder rate is at all time lows

And I can point our countries with more lax gun laws that have a lower murder rate then NYC

-Geaux

Please do that and we can talk

When the appropriate thread presents itself

BTW- Can't blame it on the failed black culture experiment here in the US.

-Geaux

Why don't you start here

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

New York has a murder rate of 3.3 ....show me a country with a lower murder rate that has lax gun controls

I would say Switzerland....a gun in every home.......a military grade gun....

One example. A very small, very rich country without much inequality.

 

[jon_berzerk]

As the article points out it has been a year since Mississippi relaxed it's open carry laws....the anti gunners said this would lead to blood in the streets.....and.......nothing has happened......no blood, and the world kept turning....peacefully.....

Mississippi Yawning One Year Later Dire Open Carry Predictions Prove False The Daily Caller

actually if one is looking for the wild west shootouts

one only has to travel as far as gun ban Chicago

where over 20 people have been shot in 24 hours

 

[rightwinger]

That is ridiculous. That work stoppage lasted a few weeks and only affected non-violent offenses

NYC has the strictest gun laws in the nation and their murder rate is at all time lows

And I can point our countries with more lax gun laws that have a lower murder rate then NYC

-Geaux

Please do that and we can talk

When the appropriate thread presents itself

BTW- Can't blame it on the failed black culture experiment here in the US.

-Geaux

Why don't you start here

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

New York has a murder rate of 3.3 ....show me a country with a lower murder rate that has lax gun controls

I would say Switzerland....a gun in every home.......a military grade gun....

You want to use Switzerland as an example? Yes, lets move to their gun laws. They actually have a well regulated militia

Gun politics in Switzerland - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Each soldier is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm SIG SG 550 rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm SIG P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, military police, medical and postal personnel) at home or (as of 2010) in the local armoury (Zeughaus). Up until October 2007, ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.[4] The ammunition was intended for use while travelling to the army barracks in case of invasion.
In October 2007, the Swiss Federal Council decided that the distribution of ammunition to soldiers shall stop and that all previously issued ammo shall be returned. By March 2011, more than 99% of the ammo has been received. Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still store ammunition at home today.[5]
When their period of service has ended, militiamen have the choice of keeping their personal weapon and other selected items of their equipment.[citation needed] However, keeping the weapon after end of service requires a license.

The sale of ammunition – including Gw Pat.90 rounds for army-issue assault rifles – is subsidized by the Swiss government and made available at the many shooting ranges patronized by both private citizens and members of the militia. There is a regulatory requirement that ammunition sold at ranges must be used there

 

[rightwinger]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

 

[Vigilante]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

How about this Trotskite, that SCALE is per 100,000 in population... So what is the population of Louisiana ... 4.65 million, and NY population is 19.75 million....So there were approx. 50 people murdered in La, and NY is approx. 65......

BUT how can that be, as N.Y.C. MURDER RATE ALONE for 2014 was 315!!!!!

New York City murders hit record low in 2014 NY Times Reuters

Care to handle that statistic there Mr. Trotskyite?

 

[rightwinger]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

How about this Trotskite, that SCALE is per 100,000 in population... So what is the population of Louisiana is 4.65 million, and NY population is 19.75 million....So there were approx. 50 people murdered in La, and NY is approx. 65......

BUT how can that be, as N.Y.C. MURDER RATE ALONE for 2014 was 315!!!!!

New York City murders hit record low in 2014 NY Times Reuters

Care to handle that statistic there Mr. Trotskyite?

Why do conservatives suck so much at math?

Can't understand a simple concept like rate

I suspect it is their overall distaste for education as being elitist combined with being educated in red states



.

 

[Vigilante]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

How about this Trotskite, that SCALE is per 100,000 in population... So what is the population of Louisiana is 4.65 million, and NY population is 19.75 million....So there were approx. 50 people murdered in La, and NY is approx. 65......

BUT how can that be, as N.Y.C. MURDER RATE ALONE for 2014 was 315!!!!!

New York City murders hit record low in 2014 NY Times Reuters

Care to handle that statistic there Mr. Trotskyite?

Why do conservatives suck so much at math?

Can't understand a simple concept like rate

I suspect it is their overall distaste for education as being elitist combined with being educated in red states

Your right Trotskyite, I did that math straight up instead of multiplying that number by 10 for the 100,000 people to make it to that million mark....Can you do that math for an old guy that needs help?

 

[2aguy]

And I can point our countries with more lax gun laws that have a lower murder rate then NYC

-Geaux

Please do that and we can talk

When the appropriate thread presents itself

BTW- Can't blame it on the failed black culture experiment here in the US.

-Geaux

Why don't you start here

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

New York has a murder rate of 3.3 ....show me a country with a lower murder rate that has lax gun controls

I would say Switzerland....a gun in every home.......a military grade gun....

You want to use Switzerland as an example? Yes, lets move to their gun laws. They actually have a well regulated militia

Gun politics in Switzerland - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Each soldier is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm SIG SG 550 rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm SIG P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, military police, medical and postal personnel) at home or (as of 2010) in the local armoury (Zeughaus). Up until October 2007, ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.[4] The ammunition was intended for use while travelling to the army barracks in case of invasion.
In October 2007, the Swiss Federal Council decided that the distribution of ammunition to soldiers shall stop and that all previously issued ammo shall be returned. By March 2011, more than 99% of the ammo has been received. Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still store ammunition at home today.[5]
When their period of service has ended, militiamen have the choice of keeping their personal weapon and other selected items of their equipment.[citation needed] However, keeping the weapon after end of service requires a license.

The sale of ammunition – including Gw Pat.90 rounds for army-issue assault rifles – is subsidized by the Swiss government and made available at the many shooting ranges patronized by both private citizens and members of the militia. There is a regulatory requirement that ammunition sold at ranges must be used there

Yes...they have select fire, military rifles in their homes...and a low crime rate...obviously having military rifles in the home does not increase crime or violence.....thanks for supporting that point.....

And so...another anti gun meme is destroyed....military rifles do not cause an increase in violence......or mass shootings.....

 

[rightwinger]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

How about this Trotskite, that SCALE is per 100,000 in population... So what is the population of Louisiana is 4.65 million, and NY population is 19.75 million....So there were approx. 50 people murdered in La, and NY is approx. 65......

BUT how can that be, as N.Y.C. MURDER RATE ALONE for 2014 was 315!!!!!

New York City murders hit record low in 2014 NY Times Reuters

Care to handle that statistic there Mr. Trotskyite?

Why do conservatives suck so much at math?

Can't understand a simple concept like rate

I suspect it is their overall distaste for education as being elitist combined with being educated in red states

Your right Trotskyite, I did that math straight up instead of multiplying that number by 10 for the 100,000 people to make it to that million mark....Can you do that math for an old guy that needs help?

What is it with Conservatives and math and science?

They seem to think they can make up their own rules just because they don't like the answers that math and science give them

 

[2aguy]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

Actually, guns aren't the problem....democrat run cities are the problem in those states....the cities with the most violence in the country are run by democrats....take out those cities from the stats and the violence rate drops....dramatically....if you want to lower violence....stop voting for democrats.....

And I wouldn't brag about New York.....they got rid of stop and frisk...there gun murder rate, and crime in general is going to be spiking pretty soon......comes with having a lefty for mayor......

 

[rightwinger]

Please do that and we can talk

When the appropriate thread presents itself

BTW- Can't blame it on the failed black culture experiment here in the US.

-Geaux

Why don't you start here

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

New York has a murder rate of 3.3 ....show me a country with a lower murder rate that has lax gun controls

I would say Switzerland....a gun in every home.......a military grade gun....

You want to use Switzerland as an example? Yes, lets move to their gun laws. They actually have a well regulated militia

Gun politics in Switzerland - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Each soldier is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm SIG SG 550 rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm SIG P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, military police, medical and postal personnel) at home or (as of 2010) in the local armoury (Zeughaus). Up until October 2007, ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.[4] The ammunition was intended for use while travelling to the army barracks in case of invasion.
In October 2007, the Swiss Federal Council decided that the distribution of ammunition to soldiers shall stop and that all previously issued ammo shall be returned. By March 2011, more than 99% of the ammo has been received. Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still store ammunition at home today.[5]
When their period of service has ended, militiamen have the choice of keeping their personal weapon and other selected items of their equipment.[citation needed] However, keeping the weapon after end of service requires a license.

The sale of ammunition – including Gw Pat.90 rounds for army-issue assault rifles – is subsidized by the Swiss government and made available at the many shooting ranges patronized by both private citizens and members of the militia. There is a regulatory requirement that ammunition sold at ranges must be used there

Yes...they have select fire, military rifles in their homes...and a low crime rate...obviously having military rifles in the home does not increase crime or violence.....thanks for supporting that point.....

And so...another anti gun meme is destroyed....military rifles do not cause an increase in violence......or mass shootings.....

Having a rifle at home but no ammunition kind of defeats your argument doesn't it?

How about we both agree to a well regulated militia system like Switzerland has?

 

[rightwinger]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

Actually, guns aren't the problem....democrat run cities are the problem in those states....the cities with the most violence in the country are run by democrats....take out those cities from the stats and the violence rate drops....dramatically....if you want to lower violence....stop voting for democrats.....

And I wouldn't brag about New York.....they got rid of stop and frisk...there gun murder rate, and crime in general is going to be spiking pretty soon......comes with having a lefty for mayor......

New York City has half the murder rate it had 25 years ago
Strict gun controls are working

 

[2aguy]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

How about this Trotskite, that SCALE is per 100,000 in population... So what is the population of Louisiana is 4.65 million, and NY population is 19.75 million....So there were approx. 50 people murdered in La, and NY is approx. 65......

BUT how can that be, as N.Y.C. MURDER RATE ALONE for 2014 was 315!!!!!

New York City murders hit record low in 2014 NY Times Reuters

Care to handle that statistic there Mr. Trotskyite?

Why do conservatives suck so much at math?

Can't understand a simple concept like rate

I suspect it is their overall distaste for education as being elitist combined with being educated in red states

Your right Trotskyite, I did that math straight up instead of multiplying that number by 10 for the 100,000 people to make it to that million mark....Can you do that math for an old guy that needs help?

What is it with Conservatives and math and science?

They seem to think they can make up their own rules just because they don't like the answers that math and science give them

Yes....explain that to us as you try to fudge those global warming numbers...again.....

 

[2aguy]

Now

Lets see how effective those lax gun laws are in keeping people safe

The states with the highest murder rates are;

Louisiana 10.8
Alabama 7.2
Mississippi 6.5

None of these states are known for dense urban areas that tend to breed violence. Instead, they are known for open access to guns

Among the lowest murder rates

New York 3.3
Massachusetts 2.0

Both have densely populated urban areas and gangs. But they do have strict gun controls


Murder Rates Nationally and By State Death Penalty Information Center

Actually, guns aren't the problem....democrat run cities are the problem in those states....the cities with the most violence in the country are run by democrats....take out those cities from the stats and the violence rate drops....dramatically....if you want to lower violence....stop voting for democrats.....

And I wouldn't brag about New York.....they got rid of stop and frisk...there gun murder rate, and crime in general is going to be spiking pretty soon......comes with having a lefty for mayor......

New York City has half the murder rate it had 25 years ago
Strict gun controls are working

No....Rudy Guiliani, a Republican, came in and cleaned up the city....and the next mayor followed his lead...the new guy.....a hard core leftist...threw out all those crime stopping policies....the crime rate is going to go up......

 

[2aguy]

And the crime rate in New York is going up.....and it will soon be the cesspool it was under past democrat mayors.....

Crime Silently Increasing in New York City FrontPage Magazine

We invite the community to take a look and see how the crime numbers in your community are silently and quietly creeping up. We invite you to see how in “key” communities (some of the poorest areas of the city), where violence has historically been raw and uncontrolled, we now have deadly, dangerous shooting incidents and shooting victims climbing upwards. In some cases a 1500% increase, and overall, citywide incidents of shootings are up 12%. Grand Larceny Auto was once the defining downward force for substantial decreases for years — not so much anymore. Check what’s happening in your part of town.

Signs of the past coming back are all in place with de Blasio and Lancman trashing the police at every opportunity they get. What do we the community get? We get historic increases of police officers being injured in the line of duty; the likes of which we have not seen in almost 20 years. An emboldened criminal element, more violent streets and communities wondering when is it going to hit us next?