Minn Democrat Chair proudly proclaims they are the party of Democratic Socialists

[Leo123]

Nope. A healthy society addresses social need, and that's not mutually-exclusive to being able to raise one's position.


Unlikely. There are enough miserable people here, it can't be much worse.

Yeah Marxists always say shit like that but their Utopia always ends in destruction and loss of human life.

Exactly how many Americans are miserable? Most people here seem pretty good, except for the Democrat socialists that is.

 

[Midnight FM]

Yeah Marxists always say shit like that but their Utopia always ends in destruction and loss of human life.

That shows a complete lack of education as to what Marxism is. Just another scare word used to refer to anything one doesn't like.

 

[Leo123]

To my knowledge, racists are found of categorizing people by their skin color. People who have a humanistic perspective just see fellow humans regardless of color.

I also fail to see what an economic system such as Marxism, has to do with any of the above.

You just called people WHITE nationalists. Hypocrite much? Or are people not racist if they join your cult? Yeah you wouldn’t see logic looking through your racist lens.

 

[Edgetho]

Yeah Marxists always say shit like that but their Utopia always ends in destruction and loss of human life.

Exactly how many Americans are miserable? Most people here seem pretty good, except for the Democrat socialists that is.

It's a ******* troll. I just now put it on ignore

 

[Leo123]

That shows a complete lack of education as to what Marxism is. Just another scare word used to refer to anything one doesn't like.

We know what Marxism is, we have seen it fail over and over again. Marxism is a wet dream of lazy idiots who think they can get paid for existing. They are also racists. Are you a Marxie?

 

[Midnight FM]

You just called people WHITE nationalists. Hypocrite much? Or are people not racist if they join your cult? Yeah you wouldn’t see logic looking through your racist lens.

White nationalists are a thing. They see everything in terms of their race-based collectivism, so, naturally, socialism on the part of the "race" is their next logical step.

 

[Midnight FM]

We know what Marxism is, we have seen it fail over and over again. Marxism is a wet dream of lazy idiots who think they can get paid for existing. They are also racists. Are you a Marxie?

No, Marxism, by definition, is the abolition of private property. N countries in the developed world are Marxist. You're uneducated on the term and are using it to refer to anything you don't like.

Even in countries, such as the US, which certainly aren't Marxist, people can and do receive certain things "just for existing", such as the protection of their rights and freedoms under the law. And that's not a bad thing.

 

[Leo123]

White nationalists are a thing. They see everything in terms of their race-based collectivism, so, naturally, socialism on the part of the "race" is their next logical step.

Racism is a ‘thing’ and it is alive in you.

 

[Midnight FM]

Racism is a ‘thing’ and it is alive in you.

Gaslighting isn't going to make racism go away. It exists. Neo-Nazis are getting busted for racist hate crimes. Trying to pretend that racism doesn't exist is denialism.

 

[Leo123]

No, Marxism, by definition, is the abolition of private property. N countries in the developed world are Marxist. You're uneducated on the term and are using it to refer to anything you don't like.

Even in countries, such as the US, which certainly aren't Marxist, people can and do receive certain things "just for existing", such as the protection of their rights and freedoms under the law. And that's not a bad thing.

Marxism is a set of ideals that includes government takeover of private property and the means of production. It never works but it causes societal havoc if not stopped. The Democrats have one running for NY Mayor.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Doesn't seem that way.

You're not qualified to judge, mentally disturbed MAGA dude.

 

[Unkotare]

You're not qualified to judge.....

Actually, I am.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Actually, I am.

In your own mentally ill mind maybe.

 

[Unkotare]

In your own mentally ill mind maybe.

In reality.

 

[Leo123]

Gaslighting isn't going to make racism go away. It exists. Neo-Nazis are getting busted for racist hate crimes. Trying to pretend that racism doesn't exist is denialism.

You identify people by skin color and you did in your post. So Racism certainly exists in you.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

In reality.

Nah

 

[Unkotare]

Nah

Yup.

 

[alang1216]

Not anymore, they are rapidly moving to the right due to the invasion of Muslims who refuse to assimilate into the Scandinavian culture. They were successful because they had a homogenous culture of trust. That has been destroyed by unchecked immigration. From the foundation of Economic Education:
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For more on this topic, see Socialism: Force or Fantasy, especially the recommended readings at the bottom. Don’t miss this additional and very important point: So-called “democratic socialism” is at war with itself; the longer and deeper that any nation pursues it, the more the socialist aspect squeezes out the democratic part. Whenever they come to power, democratic socialists steal not only your “stuff” but anything they can get their hands on—elections, the media, the schools, your children, even your vocabulary.

The Nordic countries of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland have generous welfare states—which they have purposely been reducing—but it’s not socialism that pays the bills. As always, capitalism pays the bills that socialism piles up—that is, until, as Margaret Thatcher put it, the socialists “run out of other people’s money.”

This article was adapted from an issue of the FEE Daily email newsletter. Click here to sign up and get free-market news and analysis like this in your inbox every weekday.

I have my own way of expressing that same truth: “The only thing socialism does for poor people is give them lots of company.” Or, “Socialism irons out the business cycle by eliminating the boom part.”"

Economic policy is not the same as immigration policy though each affects the other. I'm no expert in Nordic policies but in the US we need a strong welfare system so we need a strong immigration policy and only the Federal government can manage both. Currently we have neither. Allowing immigrants a path to citizenship that includes an incremental buy-in to our welfare systems is how I'd go. I'd also separate social supports from employment. We should have universal healthcare for all children and citizens.

 

[j-mac]

Who owns the police department? Who runs the police department? Again, Socialism means the government owns the means of production, and that doesn't matter if it is widgets, or services. You are merely looking for an excuse.

Socialism is about redistribution of wealth. People pay taxes and the government then gives it to others, whether they have contributed toward the cost of the service or not. That’s a library, a public school, food stamps, or any form of “universal basic income.” These are often termed “transfer payments.” The government takes money from individuals and corporations and gives it those it wants to support—or get votes from. This is, of course, completely immoral and antithetical to the principles of a free and just society.

In a free society, citizens recognize that certain threats cannot be dealt with by individuals alone. The government’s first and only legitimate role is to safeguard the lives, rights, and property of its citizens. Citizens pay a little bit of tax—which should never be more than 10 percent of income—to fund a military to protect against invaders; police and prisons to capture and incarcerate criminals; and certain emergency services to protect against fire, floods, pandemics, or meteorite strikes. I will concede, though, that often even some of the emergency services could be better handled by private institutions.

The military, police, and justice systems should be completely public institutions. Why? Because fighting invaders or a necessary foreign war requires a national public effort. Only a united public effort can adequately defend a whole nation or territory from invasion or defeat a dangerous enemy abroad. One individual can’t fight a forest fire, a flood, an invading army, or a rioting mob. That requires a community effort. Free peoples have understood that concept since the beginning of time. It isn’t socialism. It’s a price free people willingly pay to stay free.

No Bernie, The Police And Fire Departments Are Not Socialism

By: Trevor Loudon | The Epoch Times Presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) looks on during the second Democratic primary debate of the 2020 presidential campaign season hosted by NBC…

www.trevorloudon.com

You should not be conflating government spending with socialism. It displays either ignorance, lazy thinking, or wanton dishonesty.

 

[dblack]

Socialism is about redistribution of wealth.

Socialism is about replacing the free market with government. The want to replace economic struggle with political struggle.