Minimum Wage Workers Can't afford Apartment Rent

Bernie Sanders is calling it a a "National Disgrace" minimum wage workers can't afford rent for a two-bedroom apartment in any city in the US. I agree with him it is awful if our economy is doing so good, yet not even those who work very low paying jobs can pay rent anywhere. Nationally the average renter's wage is $17.57 /hour, very hard for someone make $7-8/hr to pay rent anywhere.

Well thankfully Bernie Sanders has I think a brilliant plan to bring affordable housing to the working poor. From what I am reading he is thinking of having a plan to create more affordable housing and also to impose rent control laws.

Hey Bernie your awesome buddy. Feel the Bern!
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The Socialist ruling elite always live well.

Just look at the Obamas and Clintons.
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.

In that case you can't compare your situation to someone working for minimum without support.

And your connection of this to Reagan is bullshit.
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.
Bullshit. .

The min wage in 1978 was $2.65. That's about $455.00/month before taxes, which is about $370 net pay at the very best. No family could survive on that in 1978. I know this because I was alive then and I don't have dementia.
Indeed.....I was making "the big bux" with a job in the mid-$3/hr range around that time...Worked out a budget on what I could afford between housing, utilities, food, insurance and upkeep on the car, and could only-but-barely cover a studio flat where I had to go outside to change my mind.
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.

In that case you can't compare your situation to someone working for minimum without support.

And your connection of this to Reagan is bullshit.
She conflicted with both RDS & TDS???

Holy hell that must make life insufferable
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.
IOW, you lied about supporting yourself on MW.

And your sniveling about Reagan is entirely beside the point.
 
There's always been taxes I don't consider that into the equation. We need police, fire departments, teachers, roads, the list goes on. I am all for paying them well. They aren't bad peoe. I refuse to be pitted against them. They aren't the issue at all.
 
Bernie Sanders is calling it a a "National Disgrace" minimum wage workers can't afford rent for a two-bedroom apartment in any city in the US. I agree with him it is awful if our economy is doing so good, yet not even those who work very low paying jobs can pay rent anywhere. Nationally the average renter's wage is $17.57 /hour, very hard for someone make $7-8/hr to pay rent anywhere.

Well thankfully Bernie Sanders has I think a brilliant plan to bring affordable housing to the working poor. From what I am reading he is thinking of having a plan to create more affordable housing and also to impose rent control laws.

Hey Bernie your awesome buddy. Feel the Bern!

This is either a troll post, or the OP is really that dumb.
Minimum wage is not supposed to support anyone. None. Not one person.
Min. wage jobs are for people just entering the workforce at a time in their lives their living costs are paid by their parents.
Or, a job where one of two married couple who work part-time for supplemental income.

Once again, the problem isn't so much low wages, but LOW OPPORTUNITY.
As well as people who have done NOTHING to further their chances for better employment, and worse those whose poor life choices continually HURT their chances.
And those people deserve nothing. Nothing. Not ONE cent.
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.

In that case you can't compare your situation to someone working for minimum without support.

And your connection of this to Reagan is bullshit.



My parents paid for my education. I paid for everything else. No different from anyone who was on their own and didn't go to school.

Yes I can compare my situation with someone working minimum wage without any help. I had many friends at the time who were working and not going to school who lived on their own and paid for everything I paid for myself. The only thing I didn't pay for was my education which my parents paid for.

So yes I can compare myself to someone who didn't have any help from their parents and didn't go to school because I didn't have any help to pay for the same things.

My friends who did go to school without help from their parents did it with Pell Grants, student loans and minimum wage jobs. So almost everyone was doing the same thing I did but got their tuition from either Pell Grants or student loans. Like my ex husband. He had to get himself legally emancipated from his parents to be able to qualify for Pell Grants. When the grants ran out he got loans. Four of them to be exact. Which we paid back every penny by 1996.

My parents paying for school had nothing to do with me paying for everything else. If you remove my parents paying for school, I didn't get anything from them. If I had not gone to school, I would have been paying for the same things I paid for with them paying for my education.

There was a time when minimum wage paid for rent and regular living expenses. I know because I lived on it for many years. I graduated from college in 1982. Right smack dab in the middle of reagan's worst recession since the republican Great Depression. There were no jobs. I had to keep working close to minimum wage until I moved to California to work in the field of my education and degree. Which was in 1986. Jobs were there because a lot of the military industrial complex was there. Reagan pumped billions into the military at the time to create jobs. So people flocked to California at the time because the jobs were there.
 
There's always been taxes I don't consider that into the equation. We need police, fire departments, teachers, roads, the list goes on. I am all for paying them well. They aren't bad peoe. I refuse to be pitted against them. They aren't the issue at all.
Your opinion as to the necessity of taxes is entirely beside the point.....Fact remains that they are very much higher than the days when a family could get by on only one breadwinner.....This is undeniable.
 
Has a minimum wage worker ever been able to afford to rent an apartment?



Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.

In that case you can't compare your situation to someone working for minimum without support.

And your connection of this to Reagan is bullshit.



My parents paid for my education. I paid for everything else. No different from anyone who was on their own and didn't go to school.

Yes I can compare my situation with someone working minimum wage without any help. I had many friends at the time who were working and not going to school who lived on their own and paid for everything I paid for myself. The only thing I didn't pay for was my education which my parents paid for.

So yes I can compare myself to someone who didn't have any help from their parents and didn't go to school because I didn't have any help to pay for the same things.

My friends who did go to school without help from their parents did it with Pell Grants, student loans and minimum wage jobs. So almost everyone was doing the same thing I did but got their tuition from either Pell Grants or student loans. Like my ex husband. He had to get himself legally emancipated from his parents to be able to qualify for Pell Grants. When the grants ran out he got loans. Four of them to be exact. Which we paid back every penny by 1996.

My parents paying for school had nothing to do with me paying for everything else. If you remove my parents paying for school, I didn't get anything from them. If I had not gone to school, I would have been paying for the same things I paid for with them paying for my education.

There was a time when minimum wage paid for rent and regular living expenses. I know because I lived on it for many years. I graduated from college in 1982. Right smack dab in the middle of reagan's worst recession since the republican Great Depression. There were no jobs. I had to keep working close to minimum wage until I moved to California to work in the field of my education and degree. Which was in 1986. Jobs were there because a lot of the military industrial complex was there. Reagan pumped billions into the military at the time to create jobs. So people flocked to California at the time because the jobs were there.

Your wall of text doesn't remove the fact that your situation does not match current situations.
 
I actually have a Masters degree and a CDL. For the past year I been working a job in social services for 48k yr, before that I was an OTR truck driver for a few years. But I worked 7-12/ hr jobs for many years even after I got my masters because thats all I could get hired for.

.

My Masters degree earned me a six figure salary for most of my employment career.

You didn't do it right. You obviously made some poor life choices along the way.

Quit your bitching.

By the way, the best way not to be poor, besides simply working hard, is to not vote for Liberals that screw up the economy with failed Leftest economic policies.
He wasn’t bitching about his job prospects. He was bitching about his wife’s. She like many Americans didn’t do well in school, so college was not an option. She like many Americans is relegated to low paying jobs, due to low IQ. I think we as a nation need to help these people.

We have a lot of poor Americans really suffering needlessly.


you would love Marx "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" in other words----punish success and reward failure. A recipe for disaster.
 
There's always been taxes I don't consider that into the equation. We need police, fire departments, teachers, roads, the list goes on. I am all for paying them well. They aren't bad peoe. I refuse to be pitted against them. They aren't the issue at all.
Your opinion as to the necessity of taxes is entirely beside the point.....Fact remains that they are very much higher than the days when a family could get by on only one breadwinner.....This is undeniable.
Yep... one of the largest negative effects of feminism. Women entering the workforce literally doubled the labor supply... and the result of that is... as they say - the rest of the story.
 
Yes I did. I also was able to support myself when I went to college.

This was in the 70s before reagan and the change to putting tax cuts for the filthy rich before the rest of the people in our nation.

Did you pay for college?
What size apartment?
Roommates?
What was the minimum wage at the time?
No support AT ALL from parents?


My parents paid for everything for school. I paid for everything else.

I lived in a studio apartment. No roommates.

The minimum wage in the 70s I think was around 3 dollars an hour which was higher than the federal level. My state has always had higher minimum wage than the federal rate which was around 2.65 an hour.

I had help for my education from my parents. They believed that if you bring a child into this world you're obligated to make sure that child can be self sufficient as an adult. That required a good education. They paid for my education. I paid for everything else.

Like I said, this was in the 70s. The late 70s before Reagan and all the economic and societal changes that came from him and conservative economics.

In that case you can't compare your situation to someone working for minimum without support.

And your connection of this to Reagan is bullshit.



My parents paid for my education. I paid for everything else. No different from anyone who was on their own and didn't go to school.

Yes I can compare my situation with someone working minimum wage without any help. I had many friends at the time who were working and not going to school who lived on their own and paid for everything I paid for myself. The only thing I didn't pay for was my education which my parents paid for.

So yes I can compare myself to someone who didn't have any help from their parents and didn't go to school because I didn't have any help to pay for the same things.

My friends who did go to school without help from their parents did it with Pell Grants, student loans and minimum wage jobs. So almost everyone was doing the same thing I did but got their tuition from either Pell Grants or student loans. Like my ex husband. He had to get himself legally emancipated from his parents to be able to qualify for Pell Grants. When the grants ran out he got loans. Four of them to be exact. Which we paid back every penny by 1996.

My parents paying for school had nothing to do with me paying for everything else. If you remove my parents paying for school, I didn't get anything from them. If I had not gone to school, I would have been paying for the same things I paid for with them paying for my education.

There was a time when minimum wage paid for rent and regular living expenses. I know because I lived on it for many years. I graduated from college in 1982. Right smack dab in the middle of reagan's worst recession since the republican Great Depression. There were no jobs. I had to keep working close to minimum wage until I moved to California to work in the field of my education and degree. Which was in 1986. Jobs were there because a lot of the military industrial complex was there. Reagan pumped billions into the military at the time to create jobs. So people flocked to California at the time because the jobs were there.

Your wall of text doesn't remove the fact that your situation does not match current situations.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit. :laugh2:
 
I actually have a Masters degree and a CDL. For the past year I been working a job in social services for 48k yr, before that I was an OTR truck driver for a few years. But I worked 7-12/ hr jobs for many years even after I got my masters because thats all I could get hired for.

.

My Masters degree earned me a six figure salary for most of my employment career.

You didn't do it right. You obviously made some poor life choices along the way.

Quit your bitching.

By the way, the best way not to be poor, besides simply working hard, is to not vote for Liberals that screw up the economy with failed Leftest economic policies.
He wasn’t bitching about his job prospects. He was bitching about his wife’s. She like many Americans didn’t do well in school, so college was not an option. She like many Americans is relegated to low paying jobs, due to low IQ. I think we as a nation need to help these people.

We have a lot of poor Americans really suffering needlessly.


you would love Marx "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" in other words----punish success and reward failure. A recipe for disaster.
LOL. I merely want my fellow Americans not suffering, while their criminal government spends trillions on wars and other assorted bull shit, that only enriches the 1%.
 
Bernie Sanders is calling it a a "National Disgrace" minimum wage workers can't afford rent for a two-bedroom apartment in any city in the US. I agree with him it is awful if our economy is doing so good, yet not even those who work very low paying jobs can pay rent anywhere. Nationally the average renter's wage is $17.57 /hour, very hard for someone make $7-8/hr to pay rent anywhere.

Well thankfully Bernie Sanders has I think a brilliant plan to bring affordable housing to the working poor. From what I am reading he is thinking of having a plan to create more affordable housing and also to impose rent control laws.

Hey Bernie your awesome buddy. Feel the Bern!
Maybe you should consider learning a useful skill, instead of just screwing up people's burger orders...

I actually have a Masters degree and a CDL. For the past year I been working a job in social services for 48k yr, before that I was an OTR truck driver for a few years. But I worked 7-12/ hr jobs for many years even after I got my masters because thats all I could get hired for.

My wife was a high school drop out, IQ of like 80, and has worked fast food all her life because thats her only option, she struggles with her job and coworkers label her as slow. She only made 10k last year with no benefits. Without me she would be back where I found her. Homeless living out of a 20 yr old car, no healthcare, no dental care, no vision care. She gets deathly sick without iron shots her body doesnt absorb vitamin pills and that shot costs $100 month without insurace. So go ahead call her lazy because she is a minimum wage worker, you think its just so easy for minimum wage workers to find better jobs even if they are mentally slow.

You're a good man. I applaud you for taking care of your wife. Bernie's not the answer though.
 
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LOL. I merely want my fellow Americans not suffering, while their criminal government spends trillions on wars and other assorted bull shit, that only enriches the 1%.

If you don't want your fellow Americans to suffer then give them your money. Leave me out of it. Using the filthy government to steal money from Americans that may not want to give it to the shitheads that you think are suffering is thievery, isn't it?

If you are really interested in Americans suffering then you need to pull your head out of your Libtard ass and advocate smaller government. The cost of combined government in this country is almost 40% of the GDP, which a tremendous direct or indirect burden on all Americans, regardless of income.

If you don't want American interventionism in foreign wars then don't vote for a Democrat like Obama or Crooked Hillary or any of the Democrats running for President now. All of them are interventionist.

Actually you may be too stupid to know it but Trump is probably the best President for non interventionism that we have had in a long time.
 
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I actually have a Masters degree and a CDL. For the past year I been working a job in social services for 48k yr, before that I was an OTR truck driver for a few years. But I worked 7-12/ hr jobs for many years even after I got my masters because thats all I could get hired for.

.

My Masters degree earned me a six figure salary for most of my employment career.

You didn't do it right. You obviously made some poor life choices along the way.

Quit your bitching.

By the way, the best way not to be poor, besides simply working hard, is to not vote for Liberals that screw up the economy with failed Leftest economic policies.
He wasn’t bitching about his job prospects. He was bitching about his wife’s. She like many Americans didn’t do well in school, so college was not an option. She like many Americans is relegated to low paying jobs, due to low IQ. I think we as a nation need to help these people.

We have a lot of poor Americans really suffering needlessly.


you would love Marx "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" in other words----punish success and reward failure. A recipe for disaster.
LOL. I merely want my fellow Americans not suffering, while their criminal government spends trillions on wars and other assorted bull shit, that only enriches the 1%.
I cant imagine a world without a dominant superpower

if not the US then who?
 
Yep... one of the largest negative effects of feminism. Women entering the workforce literally doubled the labor supply... and the result of that is... as they say - the rest of the story.
The first mistake was letting them vote.
 

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