Milwaukee, WI man arrested for menacing BLM mob with a gun

You're the one who started talking about stand your ground.


Liar.
LOLOL

Imbecile....

Here's the first mention of stand your ground in this thread....


Look who the poster is to see why you're an imbecile.


And my point was ceded. There is NO material distinction between " Stand your Ground" and defenses available to Kyle per Wisconsin law.


ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?
F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.
And you're a moron. Had Rittenhouse attempted to stand his ground, that would fail as a defense in Wisconsin since Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.
Everyone has the right to stand up for what is right--------------which is to stand up to the bullies in the blm and anti fa terror groups and everyone has the right to self defense when the blm and anti-fa terror groups attack them as they did KYLE.
Of course everyone has a right to defend themselves. I never said otherwise.
 
You're the one who started talking about stand your ground.


Liar.
LOLOL

Imbecile....

Here's the first mention of stand your ground in this thread....


Look who the poster is to see why you're an imbecile.


And my point was ceded. There is NO material distinction between " Stand your Ground" and defenses available to Kyle per Wisconsin law.


ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?
F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.
And you're a moron. Had Rittenhouse attempted to stand his ground, that would fail as a defense in Wisconsin since Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.
Everyone has the right to stand up for what is right--------------which is to stand up to the bullies in the blm and anti fa terror groups and everyone has the right to self defense when the blm and anti-fa terror groups attack them as they did KYLE.

Your moniker. Lol.
 
You're the one who started talking about stand your ground.


Liar.
LOLOL

Imbecile....

Here's the first mention of stand your ground in this thread....


Look who the poster is to see why you're an imbecile.


And my point was ceded. There is NO material distinction between " Stand your Ground" and defenses available to Kyle per Wisconsin law.


ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?
F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.
And you're a moron. Had Rittenhouse attempted to stand his ground, that would fail as a defense in Wisconsin since Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.
Everyone has the right to stand up for what is right--------------which is to stand up to the bullies in the blm and anti fa terror groups and everyone has the right to self defense when the blm and anti-fa terror groups attack them as they did KYLE.
Of course everyone has a right to defend themselves. I never said otherwise.

Know why Jacob Blake can never drink with police officers?
 
I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.


None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.
This is gonna be fun . . .

"None? So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ? Are you serious? Then what was your point?"

I never said Rittenhouse's defense had anything to do with stand your ground. And why would I since Rittenhouse's defense is not a stand your ground case. Who knows from where you pulled that demented gem? As I pointed out already, but you can't understand, it doesn't matter if Rittenhouse had a duty to retreat or not, he tried to retreat. He's not going to be claiming stand your ground, which would fail him had he not run and tried that defense is again, Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state. And you clearly still don't know the difference between a stand your ground state and a non-stand your ground state.

"And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat "

I never said the number of shots matters. You're just not bright enough to understand what I said. That's on you, not me. What I did say is that the level of force allowed is only enough to stop a threat of death or great bodily harm. If a firearm is used in self defense, that could be one shot or it could be any number of shots. In Rittenhouse's case, his first shot sent Rosenbaum down. Maybe a second shot was reasonable. But one of the shots, possibly the fatal shot, was to Rosenbaum's back. How the fuck can you shoot someone in the back and claim self defense?

"Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat.

"Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat. It's a pity you're so flaming retarded that you keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over. :dunno:
You redefine dumbass.



There must be a word for the type of jack ass Faun is. Argumentative for the sake of it and never , ever concedes when he is wrong. He admits that I was right , and then launches into more BULLSHIT about the number of shots fired into the ASSHOLE COMMIE #1 as determinative per se of murder vs self defense.

Like when women ask, " Why can't the police just shoot him in the leg? "
There is.

Troll.
It's not nice for you to call him that.
Bitch ass troll, bitch.
 
Assholes trying to intimidate a man in his own home..............

The guy with the megaphone would be pushing up daisies around here.....

Stay in your shitholes BLM terroists..............I wouldn't have said shit......my home.......my property......protecting my family ...........Your gone bro....oh well.
 
I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.


None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.
This is gonna be fun . . .

"None? So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ? Are you serious? Then what was your point?"

I never said Rittenhouse's defense had anything to do with stand your ground. And why would I since Rittenhouse's defense is not a stand your ground case. Who knows from where you pulled that demented gem? As I pointed out already, but you can't understand, it doesn't matter if Rittenhouse had a duty to retreat or not, he tried to retreat. He's not going to be claiming stand your ground, which would fail him had he not run and tried that defense is again, Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state. And you clearly still don't know the difference between a stand your ground state and a non-stand your ground state.

"And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat "

I never said the number of shots matters. You're just not bright enough to understand what I said. That's on you, not me. What I did say is that the level of force allowed is only enough to stop a threat of death or great bodily harm. If a firearm is used in self defense, that could be one shot or it could be any number of shots. In Rittenhouse's case, his first shot sent Rosenbaum down. Maybe a second shot was reasonable. But one of the shots, possibly the fatal shot, was to Rosenbaum's back. How the fuck can you shoot someone in the back and claim self defense?

"Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat.

"Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat. It's a pity you're so flaming retarded that you keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over. :dunno:
You redefine dumbass.



There must be a word for the type of jack ass Faun is. Argumentative for the sake of it and never , ever concedes when he is wrong. He admits that I was right , and then launches into more BULLSHIT about the number of shots fired into the ASSHOLE COMMIE #1 as determinative per se of murder vs self defense.

Like when women ask, " Why can't the police just shoot him in the leg? "
There is.

Troll.
It's not nice for you to call him that.
Bitch ass troll, bitch.
Who's bitching? Trolling is someone who baits others to derail a thread. That's what 100Trolls did. This thread is about some guy who was questionably arrested in Milwaukee but he's derailing it to be about Rittenhouse.
 
Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
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So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught in police academies and self defense classes. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish pile of poo. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who was obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick. Number of shots is not indication of guilt ....it is simply what happens when one is trained to shoot in self defense which kyle was and what happens when is in fear of their life and shooting an attacker....
 
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Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



View attachment 389439

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You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
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So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish turd. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't not attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick.

I can find no ballistic report and have no clue what you addressed, you spew alot of chit

Try using words next time.
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Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



View attachment 389439

LOL

You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
[/QUOTE

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish turd. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't not attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick.

I can find no ballistic report and have no clue what you addressed, you spew alot of chit

Try using words next time.
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Try scrolling pumpkin........
 
Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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LOL

You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
[/QUOTE

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish turd. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't not attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick.

I can find no ballistic report and have no clue what you addressed, you spew alot of chit

Try using words next time.
icon_rolleyes.gif



Try scrolling pumpkin........

Scrolling doesn't help. All that does is make your empty post shift up or down.

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Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



View attachment 389439

LOL

You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
[/QUOTE

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish turd. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't not attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick.

I can find no ballistic report and have no clue what you addressed, you spew alot of chit

Try using words next time.
icon_rolleyes.gif



Try scrolling pumpkin........

Scrolling doesn't help. All that does is make your empty post shift up or down.

View attachment 389602

Here you go you big baby....

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught in police academies and self defense classes. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish pile of poo. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who was obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick. Number of shots is not indication of guilt ....it is simply what happens when one is trained to shoot in self defense which kyle was and what happens when is in fear of their life and shooting an attacker....
 
Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



View attachment 389439

LOL

You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
[/QUOTE

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish turd. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't not attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick.

I can find no ballistic report and have no clue what you addressed, you spew alot of chit

Try using words next time.
icon_rolleyes.gif



Try scrolling pumpkin........

Scrolling doesn't help. All that does is make your empty post shift up or down.

View attachment 389602

Here you go you big baby....

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught in police academies and self defense classes. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish pile of poo. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who was obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick. Number of shots is not indication of guilt ....it is simply what happens when one is trained to shoot in self defense which kyle was and what happens when is in fear of their life and shooting an attacker....

LOL

I'm not cornered just because you're too stupid to know how to post.
icon_rolleyes.gif


"Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw."

Rosenbaum was an absolute piece of shit and I shed no tears for him. That doesn't give Rittenhouse a license to kill.

"Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back."

Of course he was. Rosenbaum was facing Rittenhouse when he was first shot. He then fell forward and landed on his back. The only way that's physically possible is that his body had to spin around as he fell.

"I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much"

It doesn't offend me. That's your delusion. I even prefaced it by saying my opinion will change of the ballistics reveal he didn't shoot Rosenbaum in the back.

"Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter"

Of course it can matter. People are only legally allowed to use a level of force needed to stop the threat. They can't just keep shooting after the threat is neutralized. The law states:

A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.

"I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what"

LOL

I don't need to do shit. That teen murderer is facing life in prison, not me.

"Number of shots is not indication of guilt"

For the umpteenth time, I said it's not the number of shots that matter, it's shooting someone after stopping the threat that matters. You can shoot someone 10 times if that was what is needed to end the threat. But if you stopped the threat after one shot, the next 9 shots constitute murder.
 
Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"




Wow, a RW Website...why am I not surprised. And yes the guy with the shotgun was in fact menacing.



How was he menacing?

He had "Trump 2020" signs in his yard and an American flag flying. Both of these are menacing to snowflakes and BLM Marxists.

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Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.


No he wasn't, he shot someone and was chased and shot 2 more.
 
Is there an arrest warrant. I haven't seen one.

The story originated on gateway pundit, and I don't have to tell you about gateway pundit.
 
Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"



The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?



BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine. :dunno:



Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state. :dunno:



Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.


Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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You should have stayed in your safe space.

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.


Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.


(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.


2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​





SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Why do you ramble on---haven't we already explained to you---that the number of shots does not affect self defense or not. You are supposed to shoot and keep shooting till the attacker is unable to attack again-----------and on top of this----with rapid fire weapons and the human condition of adrenaline firing mutliple shots is the most common and almost impossible to avoid.

Of course the number of shots matters. If someone shoots an attacker more times than is necessary to stop the threat, it's no longer self defense, but murder. In this case, if Rittenhouse fired all 4 shots, that means one of his shots was to Rosenbaum's back. The law allows force to only stop the threat. Anything beyond that is no longer self defense.

We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop......it takes a while for the body to bleed out forcing the attacker to stop for one so people are trained to keep shooting once they start. The video clearly shows that the shots fired took what 2 and 1/2 seconds? And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle---as the ME could not explain how 3 shots went to the front and one went to the back unless he turned after Kyle started firing. Number of shots does not matter----once again once adrenaline takes over from the person being attacked---humans squeeze and keep squeezing the hair trigger of the new guns and it takes over-----making it impossible to stop firing.

"We have already explained this to you-----when someone is shot--they don't stop"

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

Sometimes they do. In that case, Rosenbaum is see going down when the first shot hit him. Another shot or two may even be reasonable. But shooting him in the back is not.

"And oh btw, the shot to the back---did we get ballistic reports back to confirm that this bullet too came from Kyle"

Dumbfuck, I addressed that already. Were you not paying attention or are you not capable of understanding?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

"...making it impossible to stop firing"

What a retarded comment. Of course it's possible to stop firing. Otherwise, he would have emptied his magazine.
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So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish turd. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't not attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick.

I can find no ballistic report and have no clue what you addressed, you spew alot of chit

Try using words next time.
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Try scrolling pumpkin........

Scrolling doesn't help. All that does is make your empty post shift up or down.

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Here you go you big baby....

So nasty when you get cornered. Again, and I know you hate the truth-----but shooting someone attacking you multiple times is common and in fact taught in police academies and self defense classes. The semi-automatic fire bullets rapidly-----when you are being attacked people are naturally inclined to keep pressing the trigger. This is simply the facts---Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw. I am not sure if kyle shot Rosenbaum in the back or not----Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back. Kyle was trying to get away from the violent drugged up pedophile and the pedophile was chasing him trying to attack him. The shots fire were quick--very quick and kyle did not shoot the pedophile once he went down.

I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much-----I like facts and attributing Kyle with the shot to the back when the ME can't explain exactly how has me wondering if attributing all of the shots to kyle is honest and accurate. I like accuracy but apparently you don't ---you like be a nasty childish pile of poo. As a disclaimer, I can't remember if the ME said 4 or 5 shots took the pedophile down but the internet is claiming 5.

Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter ........kyle still shot in self defense and it is logical to shoot till the attacker is no longer a threat which is till he is down on the ground preferably dead so he can't attack you. This is basic self defense. Your bizarre attempts to claim that Kyle who was obviously just defending himself from the attacking violent pedophile was somehow guilty of something because he shot the attacker 4 or 5 or less times is stupid. I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what-------you either don't have a damn clue what you are babbling about or you are lying to everyone. Either way its sick. Number of shots is not indication of guilt ....it is simply what happens when one is trained to shoot in self defense which kyle was and what happens when is in fear of their life and shooting an attacker....

LOL

I'm not cornered just because you're too stupid to know how to post.
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"Rosenbaum was a pedophile reportedly who sodomized MALE victims as young as 9 btw."

Rosenbaum was an absolute piece of shit and I shed no tears for him. That doesn't give Rittenhouse a license to kill.

"Kyle was never behind Rosenbaum to shoot him in the back."

Of course he was. Rosenbaum was facing Rittenhouse when he was first shot. He then fell forward and landed on his back. The only way that's physically possible is that his body had to spin around as he fell.

"I am sorry but why does my question about the ballistic report offend you so damn much"

It doesn't offend me. That's your delusion. I even prefaced it by saying my opinion will change of the ballistics reveal he didn't shoot Rosenbaum in the back.

"Four, FIVE, Ten shots doesn't matter"

Of course it can matter. People are only legally allowed to use a level of force needed to stop the threat. They can't just keep shooting after the threat is neutralized. The law states:

A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.


"I am sorry, but you need to grow up and get a grip and stop trying to manipulate what happened and what indicates what"

LOL

I don't need to do shit. That teen murderer is facing life in prison, not me.

"Number of shots is not indication of guilt"

For the umpteenth time, I said it's not the number of shots that matter, it's shooting someone after stopping the threat that matters. You can shoot someone 10 times if that was what is needed to end the threat. But if you stopped the threat after one shot, the next 9 shots constitute murder.

Rosenbaum was a piece of shit-----------and no one should care that he was finally killed in the commission of a crime. Not only should it have been expected but it should be welcomed---he won't be raping any more little 9 year boys now will he or burning a city down. But yet here you are trying to attack a kid who did nothing more than defend himself from this piece of shit. #CriminalLivesDon'tMatter.

Then you go on with your own admissions----you admit that the only way that Kyle shot the pedo in the back was if the Pedo spun around as Kyle was firing------again adrenaline----Kyle was already shooting, pedo spun getting himself hit in the back in this scenerio, and kyle was still doing nothing more than defending himself from your piece of shit. Still SELF DEFENSE.

You attack over my simple question about if anyone has seen the ballistic report----I give it atleast a 50% chance that someone else shot the pedo in the back---is noteworthy. Again, why attack over this? If your hope was to bully or distract--it failed.

Threat isn't neutralized till it is down, unarmed, and not moving-------shooting the POS pedo 4,5, or 10 times is not an issue. By your own admission, the only way Kyle was able to shoot the POS in the back was if the POS was still standing and turned as Kyle fired------------the pedo did not stop his attack till he was shot in the back---the kill shot was the shot to the back---it was also the only shot able to stop the PEDO from attacking. None of the other shots were sufficient to do enough damage to stop the pedo from attacking anyone and everyone. Why do you have so much trouble grasping that the number of shots is not an issue? You have had it explained to you several times.............kyle did not shoot anyone who stopped their attack on him...only while they were attacking him did he fire his gun at them.
 
The guy should have just started blasting since the traitor cops were going to ruin his life anyway.
 
The guy should have just started blasting since the traitor cops were going to ruin his life anyway.
I would have just flipped the guy off......not shown a gun......tell them to get off my lawn.....baited their sorry asses to breaking them into my house.......then I would have taken their asses out.
 
The guy should have just started blasting since the traitor cops were going to ruin his life anyway.
I would have just flipped the guy off......not shown a gun......tell them to get off my lawn.....baited their sorry asses to breaking them into my house.......then I would have taken their asses out.
Fascists would still arrest you.
 

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