Milwaukee, WI man arrested for menacing BLM mob with a gun

[Otium]

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.

 

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Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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Wow, a RW Website...why am I not surprised. And yes the guy with the shotgun was in fact menacing.

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

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Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

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[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

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1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

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[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

Quite the sophistry in action. I already posted Wisconsin law and asked you to explain the distinction . Thanks for try SPAM.


What, in your own words is Unavailable to Klye in Wisconsin than say he would be entailed to in Florida ?

LOLOL

You're fucking deranged, 100CabanaBoys.

You posted the summary of law firm's explanation about one specific castle doctrine case bears absolutely no relevance to this case.

I posted from 3 such summaries which state Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state ... plus one link listing all the states which do have stand your ground laws, of which, Wisconsin is not listed among them ... plus I posted the law which states stand your ground is only applicable to the castle doctrine.

Even worse for you, you got pwned by your own link which states, "however, Wisconsin does allow juries to consider whether a defendant could have retreated in determining whether the use of deadly force was “necessary.”" -- that would be not stand your ground. So that's 6 links, 5 from me and 1 from you, which prove you wrong.



This would be a good time for you to consult with your shitty attorney.

Blah blah blah. The perfect example of sophistry.


Once again: Name the defense available to me under Florida's Stand your Ground laws that Kyle does NOT have in Wisconsin.

Simple.

Tell lus the distinction. Without cut and pasting nonsense to deflect.


I am not gonna let you off on this.

Do it.


Just DO IT for fuck's sake

LOL

You poor thing. You've already been bested. You've already been shown Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.

My God you are insufferable. SO WHAT?



Tell us the IMPACT on Kyle's defense of not being a so-called " Stand your Ground" state. I never argued that it was. I only argued that the defenses available to him are the same as if it were and you already conceded that I was correct.

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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Wow, a RW Website...why am I not surprised. And yes the guy with the shotgun was in fact menacing.

How was he menacing?

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

​

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

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1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

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[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Show me where the number of shots are determinative you clown.

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

​

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

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1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

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[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

Ahhh..the attempt to redirect. Stand your ground has nothing to do with anything. Wisconsin has open carry and CASTLE DOCTRINE laws and this guy was well within his rights to defend his home. Which makes me wonder how the loud mouth protestor knew that they could harass him despite the laws unless they were already told that no matter what they do will be tolerated.

He already conceded that there is NO defense unavailable to Kyle due to Woisconsin not being a " stand your ground" state.

ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.

QED


Now he is saying the NUMBER of times Kyle shot Shithead #1 is determative as to murder vs self defense. LOL.


He is an insufferable, obnoxious troll. Nothing more.

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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You should have stayed in your safe space.

• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

​

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

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1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

​

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

Quite the sophistry in action. I already posted Wisconsin law and asked you to explain the distinction . Thanks for try SPAM.


What, in your own words is Unavailable to Klye in Wisconsin than say he would be entailed to in Florida ?

LOLOL

You're fucking deranged, 100CabanaBoys.

You posted the summary of law firm's explanation about one specific castle doctrine case bears absolutely no relevance to this case.

I posted from 3 such summaries which state Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state ... plus one link listing all the states which do have stand your ground laws, of which, Wisconsin is not listed among them ... plus I posted the law which states stand your ground is only applicable to the castle doctrine.

Even worse for you, you got pwned by your own link which states, "however, Wisconsin does allow juries to consider whether a defendant could have retreated in determining whether the use of deadly force was “necessary.”" -- that would be not stand your ground. So that's 6 links, 5 from me and 1 from you, which prove you wrong.



This would be a good time for you to consult with your shitty attorney.

Blah blah blah. The perfect example of sophistry.


Once again: Name the defense available to me under Florida's Stand your Ground laws that Kyle does NOT have in Wisconsin.

Simple.

Tell lus the distinction. Without cut and pasting nonsense to deflect.


I am not gonna let you off on this.

Do it.


Just DO IT for fuck's sake

LOL

You poor thing. You've already been bested. You've already been shown Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.

You just admitted defeat. And like the little pussy you are are now cleaning some victory?


AFTER all that bullshit?

ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.
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QED.

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



View attachment 389439

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You should have stayed in your safe space.

• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

​

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

​

1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

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[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

And what was the point of the SPAM you posted ? Since you conceded that there is NO defense available in a Stand your Ground state that Kyle is not entitled to in Wisconsin.



WHAT WAS YOUR POINT other than to show all what an insufferable asshole you are ?

 

[Real with True]

He wasn't menacing the mob, the mob was menacing him. He drew arms to defend himself. They were trespassing and threatening him. He should not have been arrested. Were he wandering in public brandishing his gun then he should have been arrested.

I say that all innocent civilians wrongfully detained with their weapons confiscated for rightfully defending themselves and their property should be fully reimbursed for losses caused by the arrest and given some sort of a credit.

 

[Faun]

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.

This is gonna be fun . . .

"None? So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ? Are you serious? Then what was your point?"

I never said Rittenhouse's defense had anything to do with stand your ground. And why would I since Rittenhouse's defense is not a stand your ground case. Who knows from where you pulled that demented gem? As I pointed out already, but you can't understand, it doesn't matter if Rittenhouse had a duty to retreat or not, he tried to retreat. He's not going to be claiming stand your ground, which would fail him had he not run and tried that defense is again, Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state. And you clearly still don't know the difference between a stand your ground state and a non-stand your ground state.

"And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat "

I never said the number of shots matters. You're just not bright enough to understand what I said. That's on you, not me. What I did say is that the level of force allowed is only enough to stop a threat of death or great bodily harm. If a firearm is used in self defense, that could be one shot or it could be any number of shots. In Rittenhouse's case, his first shot sent Rosenbaum down. Maybe a second shot was reasonable. But one of the shots, possibly the fatal shot, was to Rosenbaum's back. How the fuck can you shoot someone in the back and claim self defense?

"Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat.

"Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat. It's a pity you're so flaming retarded that you keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over.

 

[iceberg]

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.

This is gonna be fun . . .

"None? So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ? Are you serious? Then what was your point?"

I never said Rittenhouse's defense had anything to do with stand your ground. And why would I since Rittenhouse's defense is not a stand your ground case. Who knows from where you pulled that demented gem? As I pointed out already, but you can't understand, it doesn't matter if Rittenhouse had a duty to retreat or not, he tried to retreat. He's not going to be claiming stand your ground, which would fail him had he not run and tried that defense is again, Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state. And you clearly still don't know the difference between a stand your ground state and a non-stand your ground state.

"And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat "

I never said the number of shots matters. You're just not bright enough to understand what I said. That's on you, not me. What I did say is that the level of force allowed is only enough to stop a threat of death or great bodily harm. If a firearm is used in self defense, that could be one shot or it could be any number of shots. In Rittenhouse's case, his first shot sent Rosenbaum down. Maybe a second shot was reasonable. But one of the shots, possibly the fatal shot, was to Rosenbaum's back. How the fuck can you shoot someone in the back and claim self defense?

"Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat.

"Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat. It's a pity you're so flaming retarded that you keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over.

You redefine dumbass.

 

[Otium]

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.

This is gonna be fun . . .

"None? So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ? Are you serious? Then what was your point?"

I never said Rittenhouse's defense had anything to do with stand your ground. And why would I since Rittenhouse's defense is not a stand your ground case. Who knows from where you pulled that demented gem? As I pointed out already, but you can't understand, it doesn't matter if Rittenhouse had a duty to retreat or not, he tried to retreat. He's not going to be claiming stand your ground, which would fail him had he not run and tried that defense is again, Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state. And you clearly still don't know the difference between a stand your ground state and a non-stand your ground state.

"And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat "

I never said the number of shots matters. You're just not bright enough to understand what I said. That's on you, not me. What I did say is that the level of force allowed is only enough to stop a threat of death or great bodily harm. If a firearm is used in self defense, that could be one shot or it could be any number of shots. In Rittenhouse's case, his first shot sent Rosenbaum down. Maybe a second shot was reasonable. But one of the shots, possibly the fatal shot, was to Rosenbaum's back. How the fuck can you shoot someone in the back and claim self defense?

"Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat.

"Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat. It's a pity you're so flaming retarded that you keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over.

You redefine dumbass.

There must be a word for the type of jack ass Faun is. Argumentative for the sake of it and never , ever concedes when he is wrong. He admits that I was right , and then launches into more BULLSHIT about the number of shots fired into the ASSHOLE COMMIE #1 as determinative per se of murder vs self defense.

Like when women ask, " Why can't the police just shoot him in the leg? "

 

[Faun]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

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[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

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1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

​

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

Quite the sophistry in action. I already posted Wisconsin law and asked you to explain the distinction . Thanks for try SPAM.


What, in your own words is Unavailable to Klye in Wisconsin than say he would be entailed to in Florida ?

LOLOL

You're fucking deranged, 100CabanaBoys.

You posted the summary of law firm's explanation about one specific castle doctrine case bears absolutely no relevance to this case.

I posted from 3 such summaries which state Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state ... plus one link listing all the states which do have stand your ground laws, of which, Wisconsin is not listed among them ... plus I posted the law which states stand your ground is only applicable to the castle doctrine.

Even worse for you, you got pwned by your own link which states, "however, Wisconsin does allow juries to consider whether a defendant could have retreated in determining whether the use of deadly force was “necessary.”" -- that would be not stand your ground. So that's 6 links, 5 from me and 1 from you, which prove you wrong.



This would be a good time for you to consult with your shitty attorney.

Blah blah blah. The perfect example of sophistry.


Once again: Name the defense available to me under Florida's Stand your Ground laws that Kyle does NOT have in Wisconsin.

Simple.

Tell lus the distinction. Without cut and pasting nonsense to deflect.


I am not gonna let you off on this.

Do it.


Just DO IT for fuck's sake

LOL

You poor thing. You've already been bested. You've already been shown Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.

My God you are insufferable. SO WHAT?



Tell us the IMPACT on Kyle's defense of not being a so-called " Stand your Ground" state. I never argued that it was. I only argued that the defenses available to him are the same as if it were and you already conceded that I was correct.

LOL

You're the one who started talking about stand your ground. Now you cry like a baby because I proved you were wrong about Wisconsin being a stand your ground state.

 

[Faun]

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

None?

So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ?

Are you serious? Then what was your point?


What is the matter with you? Seriously. What an obnoxious prick you are.

And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat , to idiots who have no understanding of what a gun is or how terminal ballistics operate. If you fail to hit a vital organ? It may take long enough for a drugged up human to fall and certainly would leave them sufficient time to shoot you or knife you. etc.


" Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect.

Same with the asshole recently shot and paralyzed. Shot 7 times Not dead. After the first 3 he could easily and turned and fired on police.


Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter.

This is gonna be fun . . .

"None? So after all that blabbering BULLSHIT deflection and obfuscation and SPAMMING , you admit that there is NO material distinction in the lack of a per se " Stand your Ground" law and Wisconsin's self defenses available to Kyle" ? Are you serious? Then what was your point?"

I never said Rittenhouse's defense had anything to do with stand your ground. And why would I since Rittenhouse's defense is not a stand your ground case. Who knows from where you pulled that demented gem? As I pointed out already, but you can't understand, it doesn't matter if Rittenhouse had a duty to retreat or not, he tried to retreat. He's not going to be claiming stand your ground, which would fail him had he not run and tried that defense is again, Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state. And you clearly still don't know the difference between a stand your ground state and a non-stand your ground state.

"And the number of times one shoots to ELIMINATE a lethal threat is not germane to anything other than the extent of the threat "

I never said the number of shots matters. You're just not bright enough to understand what I said. That's on you, not me. What I did say is that the level of force allowed is only enough to stop a threat of death or great bodily harm. If a firearm is used in self defense, that could be one shot or it could be any number of shots. In Rittenhouse's case, his first shot sent Rosenbaum down. Maybe a second shot was reasonable. But one of the shots, possibly the fatal shot, was to Rosenbaum's back. How the fuck can you shoot someone in the back and claim self defense?

"Why did he have to shoot the man 7 times" is a question born of total ignorance. Easy explained to a jury unless they are all of your intellect."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat.

"Easy to show a jury video of police shooting a suspect multiple times and the suspect continuing his attack. It is not that unusual. In fact, the more shots fired the more fear was likely present in the shooter."

Same as above, I never said the number of shots needed to stop a threat matters. I said you can't keep shooting someone after you've neutralized the threat. It's a pity you're so flaming retarded that you keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over.

You redefine dumbass.

For the worse, I hope.

 

[Otium]

You're the one who started talking about stand your ground.

Liar.

 

[Otium]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

SO WHAT?????? After this gem I asked you to cite the DISTINCTION and after SPAMMING the thread you conceded, "NONE".


So please , just STFU, already.

 

[Faun]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

​

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

​

1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

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2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

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[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

I believe none. But that opinion depends on the ballistics tests. If they show he shot Rosenbaum 4 times, that's murder, not self defense. That's in Wisconsin or Florida. And has nothing to do with a duty to retreat, which he attempted.

Show me where the number of shots are determinative you clown.

939.48 Self-defense and defense of others.

(1)  A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.

 

[Faun]

You're the one who started talking about stand your ground.

Liar.

LOLOL

Imbecile....

Here's the first mention of stand your ground in this thread....

Milwaukee, WI man arrested for menacing BLM mob with a gun

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing. This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action...

www.usmessageboard.com

Look who the poster is to see why you're an imbecile.

 

[Otium]

You're the one who started talking about stand your ground.

Liar.

LOLOL

Imbecile....

Here's the first mention of stand your ground in this thread....

Milwaukee, WI man arrested for menacing BLM mob with a gun

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing. This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action...

www.usmessageboard.com

Look who the poster is to see why you're an imbecile.

And my point was ceded. There is NO material distinction between " Stand your Ground" and defenses available to Kyle per Wisconsin law.

ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.

 

[Faun]

Watch all of the videos in the main link at the bottom of the OP, then tell me who was doing the menacing.



This one ^^^^^^ shows what was going on prior to the arrival of the police. Pay close attention to the audio. The man is clearly sitting behind a closed window handling a pump action shotgun. The audio is both deceptive and revealing.

One protester says that he's pointing a shotgun "out the window"...

Listen near the end where the man with the megaphone is warning the man in house...(from about 1:08 to the end)...about "what is out here pointing at you"...

...and then at the very end seeming to ask the crowd around him, "Is this a white man?"

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The crowd was. Wisconsin has a castle doctrine so I don't understand why the guy in the house was arrested while there were people protesting on his property?

BBbbut you also failed to understand that Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, right?


SAME reason this guy was arrested for clearly acting within his rights.


Run amok mayors , prosecutors and police.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand the castle doctrine.

Obvious distinctions of Stand your Ground and Castle Doctrine in play. BOTH were disrespected. For a common reason over your empty head, fuckbubble.

^^^ a moron who doesn't understand Wisconsin isn't a stand your ground state.

Interesting distinction. Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn Express full of lawyers?

Wisconsin law allows deadly force in self-defense in the limited circumstances where the person defending themselves “reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm” to their person. Importantly, some states impose a duty to retreat from a conflict, but Wisconsin is not among them.​

​

Wisconsin Court Clarifies New Self-Defense Rule | Gimbel, Reilly, Guerin & Brown, LLP

A Wisconsin court's recent ruling could affect defendants who claim self-defense when facing criminal charges. Call a Milwaukee defense lawyer to learn more.

www.grgblaw.com

Please edify us as to the distinction. What would "stand your ground", per se, offer Kyle as a defense that Wisconsin law lacks?

Are you one of those who thinks the ANIFA scum were chasing Kyle to " disarm " him to prevent further shooting?



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• States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws

​

[among the states NOT listed: Wisconsin]​

• Is Wisconsin a Stand Your Ground State?

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law. ​

• Stand Your Ground – The Law

​

Wisconsin does not have a stand your ground law.​

• Wisconsin Self-Defense Laws

​

Wisconsin does not have a "stand your ground" law.​

• 939.48 Self-defense and defense of others

​

(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:​

​

1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

​

2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.​

​

[Stand your ground, applies only to "an actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business," i.e., castle doctrine.]​

Quite the sophistry in action. I already posted Wisconsin law and asked you to explain the distinction . Thanks for try SPAM.


What, in your own words is Unavailable to Klye in Wisconsin than say he would be entailed to in Florida ?

LOLOL

You're fucking deranged, 100CabanaBoys.

You posted the summary of law firm's explanation about one specific castle doctrine case bears absolutely no relevance to this case.

I posted from 3 such summaries which state Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state ... plus one link listing all the states which do have stand your ground laws, of which, Wisconsin is not listed among them ... plus I posted the law which states stand your ground is only applicable to the castle doctrine.

Even worse for you, you got pwned by your own link which states, "however, Wisconsin does allow juries to consider whether a defendant could have retreated in determining whether the use of deadly force was “necessary.”" -- that would be not stand your ground. So that's 6 links, 5 from me and 1 from you, which prove you wrong.



This would be a good time for you to consult with your shitty attorney.

Blah blah blah. The perfect example of sophistry.


Once again: Name the defense available to me under Florida's Stand your Ground laws that Kyle does NOT have in Wisconsin.

Simple.

Tell lus the distinction. Without cut and pasting nonsense to deflect.


I am not gonna let you off on this.

Do it.


Just DO IT for fuck's sake

LOL

You poor thing. You've already been bested. You've already been shown Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state.

You just admitted defeat. And like the little pussy you are are now cleaning some victory?


AFTER all that bullshit?

ME: SO what defense is Kyle NOT entitled to in Wisconsin that he would have in Florida, F. Lee Shitbird?

F. Lee SHitbird [ Faun] : I believe none.​

​

QED.

You're too funny, 100Idiots.