Zone1 military spending on longlasting/endless wars while people suffer cripplingly high food and gas prices : should we just vote no to all that?

[rightwinger]

The D Party is the war party.

Bush is now a Democrat?

 

[gipper]

Bush is now a Democrat?

No. Ds are now Rs. The uniparty is the war party and you’re fine with it, because you consume too much state controlled propaganda.

 

[rightwinger]

No. Ds are now Rs. The uniparty is the war party and you’re fine with it, because you consume too much state controlled propaganda.

 

[longly]

The Draft doesn’t work anymore

We no longer need low skilled Grunts in the military. Most positions require trained troops who want to be there

Unfortunately, I think you're right; too many people would refuse to serve, which means it's only a matter of time until we are the subjects, slaves, of either the Chinese or the Russians. If I'm forced to choose, I'm going to choose the Russians, because at least with them as our overlords my grandchildren can learn to speak Russian, claim they've always been Russians and hide in the herd. That would be hard to do with the Chinese. most of us don't look Chinese, Mongolian or any form of East Asian, and the Chinese are considerably racist. Not looking like a Chinese person would have consequences. Whoever becomes our master will significantly populate this country with their own people. They would call the shots and enjoy the benefits of our economy, because it'd be the logical thing to do.

 

[rightwinger]

think you're right; too many people would refuse to serve, which means it's only a matter of time until we are the subjects, slaves, of either the Chinese or the Russians

Ridiculous
We are the most powerful military in the history of mankind.
Neither Russia or China are capable of invading us

 

[longly]

Ridiculous
We are the most powerful military in the history of mankind.
Neither Russia or China are capable of invading us

That's true on paper but wars are not fought on paper; look what we have learned from Ukraine Russian war, it was not the professional army of Ukraine that held back the Russians it was the militia and their draftees, there just simply were not enough of the professional soldiers to do the job. By now, in a fight with Russia or China we would've lost half of our fighting force with no way to replace them; our people have lost their grit. We outnumber the Russians two to one, but they could put an army in the field twice the size of ours, if they can supply it, they can beat us.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I would support reducing the budget across the board equally, including foreign aid, military spending, welfare, and entitlements including SS, Medicare, Medicaid, ect

Along with that have a reduction in force of the entire federal departments

It used to be called the Penny Plan and its still a good idea

The way it works is freeze this year’s spending for next year with no automatic increases and then reduce spending by a number we can agree on

About 1-5% each year till the budget is balanced

The military is mentioned in the Constitution all that other crap isn't. Unfortunately with the world the way it is the US needs a powerful military.

 

[Mac-7]

The military is mentioned in the Constitution all that other crap isn't. Unfortunately with the world the way it is the US needs a powerful military.

I agree that the military deserves priority

But human nature being what it is you cannot target one group for cuts but not others

 

[gipper]

You’ll love this.
Why Kamala Harris Will Kill at Least 5 Billion People if She Becomes President

Kamala Harris Backed by Hundreds of Millions of Dark-Money Dollars

29 September 2024, by Eric Zuesse

open.substack.com

Of course, Dumb Don is no better. You being a duopoly dupe are only capable of thinking it’s either K or Don.

 

[rightwinger]

You’ll love this.
Why Kamala Harris Will Kill at Least 5 Billion People if She Becomes President

Kamala Harris Backed by Hundreds of Millions of Dark-Money Dollars

29 September 2024, by Eric Zuesse

open.substack.com

Of course, Dumb Don is no better. You being a duopoly dupe are only capable of thinking it’s either K or Don.

 

[georgephillip]

It is a case of priorities

Global military power is a priority over domestic investment
The US spends 40 cents of every military dollar spent in the world
It comes at the cost of a crumbling infrastructure and healthcare and education being unaffordable for working families

Priorities established thousands of years ago by mafia-like oligarchic families who took control of the means of exchange shortly after the first grain surpluses appeared; then came the Greeks:

Ancient settlements show that commoning is ‘natural’ for humans, not selfishness and competition | MR Online

"This basic pattern was repeated in every subsequent empire, until the Greek rulers minted coins with their heads on, and paid conscripted soldiers with them.

"Local people were told that they had to pay their taxes in those coins, and that the way to get them was to provide whatever it was that their soldiers needed—food, weapons, clothes, armour, horses, prostitutes, alcohol etc. (or direct services to the rulers, like building their ships and castles) in return for the coins.

"Armies were then able to conquer more lands and send newly-captured slaved down mines to get the silver for the coins, and so on.

"Again, it was control of the means of exchange that was important in maintaining power."

Imho, we are still laboring under this debt/slavery/military scam with Ukraine and Palestine being prime examples.

 

[sartre play]

Depends on what war, AND how it effects FREEDOM.
NO more Dictators wanted...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ridiculous
We are the most powerful military in the history of mankind.
Neither Russia or China are capable of invading us

They do not need to invade us, they just need to sit back while we continue to waste trillions of dollars on wars that bring us no benefit.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

They do not need to invade us, they just need to sit back while we continue to waste trillions of dollars on wars that bring us no benefit.

wrong. those wars we fight are to secure our homeland against extremism, which is rife in today's world.
and to secure a technological and logistical upperhand at all times, which is important for our grandchildren.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

wrong. those wars we fight are to secure our homeland against extremism, which is rife in today's world.
and to secure a technological and logistical upperhand at all times, which is important for our grandchildren.

damn, you have truly taken a swim in the kool aid!

 

[krichton]

The Afghanistan war lasted 20 years and cost the US 2 trillion, but we've spent trillions in 2 years supporting Ukraine with old weapons? Tell me you have no clue what you're talking without telling me you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[sartre play]

How hard most of you FOUGHT for that 20 year war ( based on political propaganda) that we lost.
Killed wounded so many AMERICANS. and trashed civilians.
And now to many of you defend a Dictator.
Over money we spent on a country's Freedom.
WAR IS NOT GOOD, but picking sides based on political party propaganda is Bad.

 

[PeterPilot]

It's funny how the Israeli State has rigged Washington so well that US soldiers die to advance the notion of Greater Israel, even as the GOP flies the Israeli Flag at its recent convention.

 

[gipper]

It's funny how the Israeli State has rigged Washington so well that US soldiers die to advance the notion of Greater Israel, even as the GOP flies the Israeli Flag at its recent convention.

The US government is controlled by Zionist forces who demand subservience to Israel. 50 some standing ovations for Bibi the war criminal is further proof. It’s been this way for a long time and many Americans like the many dumb MFers who post here, are perfectly fine with it.

 

[PeterPilot]

The US government is controlled by Zionist forces who demand subservience to Israel. 50 some standing ovations for Bibi the war criminal is further proof. It’s been this way for a long time and many Americans like the many dumb MFers who post here, are perfectly fine with it.

It could be said that Americans have the government they deserve....