Zone1 military spending on longlasting/endless wars while people suffer cripplingly high food and gas prices : should we just vote no to all that?

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes

And apparently you are just bullshitting us about reducing the national debt

And apparently you are wrong again.

Social Security is self-funded by the dedicated payroll tax. It should not add to the debt at all. I know there is now a shortfall in the taxes brought in but that can be fixed by a removing the income level for social security taxes and a couple other small tweaks without fucking over those that paid into it their whole life.

 

[peacefan]

I think they give us influence and prevent russia or china from taking our place

i long for the days yet to come, during which the swaying back and forth of control in countries' (desired) influence (especially in the political branches), are finally behind us.

we talk about going to Mars.
meanwhile we're to let our home planet sink into ruin..!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

first Ukraine, and soon Taiwan too..?

trillions spent on destruction and reconstruction far away (and that's just Ukraine, after 1 year[1]), while people here (in the EU and in the US) need a lot better local economy.
don't top politicians have something better to do than to play with the lives of their voters and those living in far-away countries in such a "drunken" way??

[1] Russia’s War in Ukraine to Cost Global Economy $2.8 Trillion, OECD Says

Why do you hate helping the MIC bottom line? We need long, pointless wars!! That’s why this dick is behind Kamala

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And apparently you are wrong again.

Social Security is self-funded by the dedicated payroll tax. It should not add to the debt at all. I know there is now a shortfall in the taxes brought in but that can be fixed by a removing the income level for social security taxes and a couple other small tweaks without fucking over those that paid into it their whole life.

Invest the trust fund into US Equities

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Invest the trust fund into US Equities

Perhaps a percent of it, but not all of it. Just as when we retire we plan to always have enough cash on hand or not in equities so that if there is a downturn of the market we will not have to sell at a loss, I could go along with such a thing for the trust fund.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes

And apparently you are just bullshitting us about reducing the national debt

Maybe this will make you feel a little better about threat China poses...

China concealed sinking of newest nuclear submarine, U.S. says

Satellite photos show crane barges gathered at shipyard for rescue

asia.nikkei.com

 

[the watcher]

We could vote to end those wars if one of the parties would stand against them, but then they wouldn't be allowed on the playground for long.

 

[peacefan]

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Why do you hate helping the MIC bottom line? We need long, pointless wars!! That’s why this dick is behind Kamala

sure, wars drive tech development.
but the poor in any country just thinks (these days) : war? that's just a total waste of lives and treasure.
prime ministers (in Ukraine for instance), who really look out for only themselves and their small circle of friends.
and sometimes i feel like speaking out on behalf of the poor, that any alliance of countries will harbor.

 

[Mac-7]

And apparently you are wrong again.

Social Security is self-funded by the dedicated payroll tax. It should not add to the debt at all. I know there is now a shortfall in the taxes brought in but that can be fixed by a removing the income level for social security taxes and a couple other small tweaks without fucking over those that paid into it their whole life.

You are a true credit to the neo marxists whether you realize it or not

I thought you wanted a balanced budget?

But I see you are willing to stall the whole idea over a few dollars a month for social security

 

[Mac-7]

i long for the days yet to come, during which the swaying back and forth of control in countries' (desired) influence (especially in the political branches), are finally behind us.

we talk about going to Mars.
meanwhile we're to let our home planet sink into ruin..!

That will never happen

You just want to give the control to china

 

[peacefan]

That will never happen

You just want to give the control to china

bs. i wanna share this world with only 1 alpha omnivore race (humans).
not see it endure endless wars.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are a true credit to the neo marxists whether you realize it or not

I thought you wanted a balanced budget?

But I see you are willing to stall the whole idea over a few dollars a month for social security

It is cute how you just ignore facts given to you so you can make some stupid jab at me.

Once again, Social Security is self-funded by the dedicated payroll tax. It is the only thing in our budget that is so. It should not add to the deficit one single dime.

 

[Mac-7]

Maybe this will make you feel a little better about threat China poses...

China concealed sinking of newest nuclear submarine, U.S. says

Satellite photos show crane barges gathered at shipyard for rescue

asia.nikkei.com

It does not reduce the threat of the chicoms at all

 

[Mac-7]

bs. i wanna share this world with only 1 alpha omnivore race (humans).
not see it endure endless wars.

Its human nature to wish for the impossible

The easy way out

Just eat the magic mushroom and drift off to la la land

China can be ignored but not denied

 

[Moonglow]

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Why do you hate helping the MIC bottom line? We need long, pointless wars!! That’s why this dick is behind Kamala

How many wars did Trump end?

 

[Moonglow]

Its human nation to wish for the impossible

The easy way out

Just eat the magic mushroom and drift off to la la land

China can be ignored but not denied

www.cnn.com · 2024/09/26 · politicsChina’s newest nuclear-powered submarine sank earlier this ...​

15 hours ago · China’s newest nuclear-powered submarine sank pierside in the spring and the Chinese Navy tried to conceal the loss, according to two US defense officials. The attack

 

[peacefan]

Its human nation to wish for the impossible

The easy way out

Just eat the magic mushroom and drift off to la la land

China can be ignored but not denied

true.
we'll have to send in squads of diplomats carrying not much more than carrots
and if the foreign policy hawks with jobs in national mass media, would just be that talking stick, you know, who hand out those first and final warnings towards officers involved in mass media foreign policy work, abroad and in the home countries.

against a foe that looks that far ahead (China), we stand little chance against them, without sticks on our table of options.

 

[Mac-7]

It is cute how you just ignore facts given to you so you can make some stupid jab at me.

Once again, Social Security is self-funded by the dedicated payroll tax. It is the only thing in our budget that is so. It should not add to the deficit one single dime.

Largely self funded but not entirely

As I said you would blow up a meaningful compromise toward the larger goal over a minor issue with social security

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Largely self funded but not entirely

It would be every easy to make self funded again and would not fuck over those that paid into it all their lives.

As I said you would blow up a meaningful compromise toward the larger goal over a minor issue with social security

One could say you are doing the very same thing. And you are doing totally to avoid taking a dime from the DOD

 

[Mac-7]

It would be every easy to make self funded again and would not fuck over those that paid into it all their lives.



One could say you are doing the very same thing. And you are doing totally to avoid taking a dime from the DOD

A balanced budget is not possible unless everyone shares the pain

Otherwise we will just keep running up the debt

And it will be your fault