Military made decisions without Trump being included

[Alicia J]

These are legitimate targets in a war. The only thing not legit is civilians, and then you'd have to prove they were deliberately targeted, not this bullshit thing about that school, which was NOT targeted and WAS located right next to a military target.

No, they are not legitimate targets. Not if they lead to massive civilian suffering and starvation.

We don't play the fucked up game of, they're hiding behind skirts and children. We kill them anyway. Preferably over the top and away from the civilians, but regardless. Military units will not be protected just because they are violating international law.

No....Trump just plays the fucked up game of starting a stupid, unnecessary war and losing to Iran.

I thought Trump promised no new wars? All Trump supporters are such cucks.

 

[frigidweirdo]

He absolutely does not need to be involved in military minutiae. He would have nothing to contribute but general direction.

The difference between him and Biden would be, Biden wouldn't need to be there, Trump would want to be there and would have to be forced not to be there.

 

[Darkwind]

No, they are not legitimate targets. Not if they lead to massive civilian suffering and starvation.


No....Trump just plays the fucked up game of starting a stupid, unnecessary war and losing to Iran.

I thought Trump promised no new wars? All Trump supporters are such cucks.

So, how many years have you served, addled one?

We do not allow cowardice from the enemy to defeat us on the battlefield.

If they were men, they'd not hide behind children and women.

Lucky for us, we are pretty damn accurate. Not 100%, but that's the way life is.

 

[yidnar]

We've known for some time now she was absolutely right all the way back in 2016.

Hillary Clinton Calls Donald Trump 'Temperamentally Unfit' to Be President​

Hillary Clinton Calls Donald Trump 'Temperamentally Unfit' to Be President

It's her first national security speech since Trump became the presumptive GOP nominee.

abcnews.com

 

[Mick2]

Thank heavens the brass kept him out of the room.

He is too erratic and ungrounded now, far more than ever.

He is jeopardizing are peoples' welfare and good being.

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WOW: A stunning new report in the WSJ reveals that military advisers intentionally excluded Donald Trump from the command room during the recent high-stakes operation to extract a downed U.S. airman in Iran, because they feared his erratic behavior could jeopardize the mission.
According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump was in such a volatile state after Iran shot down a U.S. jet that he spent hours screaming at aides in the West Wing, obsessing over the political fallout and invoking Jimmy Carter and the 1979 hostage crisis. Officials made the call to limit his access, only briefing him at “meaningful moments” instead of giving him real-time control.
Meanwhile, the operation itself nearly fell apart, with aircraft stuck in desert sand and U.S. forces scrambling to avoid Iranian detection. The airman was eventually rescued, but the chaos didn’t end there.
Just hours later, Trump woke up and fired off his profanity-laced threat online, warning Iran it would be left “living in Hell.”

MeidasTouch is not a legitimate source. It's left-wink kookery.

Dismissed

 

[jacksonlamb]

Military offenders will not be protected because they are violating international law.

 

[Stryder50]

Now you shift the field as you lose ground on the argument.

You were saying experience counted and that HRC lacked such, which is a super stupid thought.

Your post here is an example of the Peter Principle in board trolling.

Not losing ground on an argument.
Just pointing out the errors in knowledge and conclusions, using recurring examples from history.

You appear ignorant on the important factor of quality of the experience, and also the whether the experience has positive or negative effects.

So far you are the one excelling in board trolling.
You lack quality experience of anything positive.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Not losing ground on an argument.
Just pointing out the errors in knowledge and conclusions, using recurring examples from history.

You appear ignorant on the important factor of quality of the experience, and also the whether the experience has positive or negative effects.

So far you are the one excelling in board trolling.
You lack quality experience of anything positive.

Yeah, you are.

Yeah, you are a peter principle arguer.

I know the military. I know how they do things. The brass will not let him start WWIII.

You are babbling.

 

[Stryder50]

Yeah, you are.

Yeah, you are a peter principle arguer.

I know the military. I know how they do things. The brass will not let him start WWIII.

You are babbling.

I didn't say he was going to start WWIII.
There have been plenty of examples from recent past history presented on this thread showing how a POTUS doesn't get involved in all the details of planning military ops.
You have yet to show any example of "know the military".

Babble on ...

BTW, those first three sentences of yours in the OP show you flunked Eighth grade spelling and grammar.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Thank heavens the brass kept him out of the room.

He is too erratic and ungrounded now, far more than ever.

He is jeopardizing are peoples' welfare and good being.

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WOW: A stunning new report in the WSJ reveals that military advisers intentionally excluded Donald Trump from the command room during the recent high-stakes operation to extract a downed U.S. airman in Iran, because they feared his erratic behavior could jeopardize the mission.
According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump was in such a volatile state after Iran shot down a U.S. jet that he spent hours screaming at aides in the West Wing, obsessing over the political fallout and invoking Jimmy Carter and the 1979 hostage crisis. Officials made the call to limit his access, only briefing him at “meaningful moments” instead of giving him real-time control.
Meanwhile, the operation itself nearly fell apart, with aircraft stuck in desert sand and U.S. forces scrambling to avoid Iranian detection. The airman was eventually rescued, but the chaos didn’t end there.
Just hours later, Trump woke up and fired off his profanity-laced threat online, warning Iran it would be left “living in Hell.”

Just keep him tweeting or what he calls it.

 

[jacksonlamb]

I didn't say he was going to start WWIII.
There have been plenty of examples from recent past history presented on this thread showing how a POTUS doesn't get involved in all the details of planning military ops.
You have yet to show any example of "know the military".

Babble on ...

BTW, those first three sentences of yours in the OP show you flunked Eighth grade spelling and grammar.

You clearly don't know the military, stryder50. Hang with me I will help you out. Iran right now is sitting on its ass, and Trump does not how to sus and handle it.

 

[Lesh]

They are in the freaking White House command center. I would say that is about as high as it gets.

And they quietly put the mentally ill Trump at the kiddie table to play with his crayons while the grown ups handled the adult stuff.

As AOC said the other day

We’re safer when Trump is playing golf and not insinuating his craziness into important matters

 

[Stryder50]

You clearly don't know the military, stryder50. Hang with me I will help you out. Iran right now is sitting on its ass, and Trump does not how to sus and handle it.

Dude, or dudess, you have no credibility on anything as far as I'm concerned. I know more about the military than you ever will.
Clue: no way your ignorance and hubris will help out me or others.

 

[Stryder50]

As AOC said the other day

We’re safer when Trump is playing golf and not insinuating his craziness into important matters

other than hanging out in bars and now a career scamming the taxpayers, AOC is expert on nothing else.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Dude, or dudess, you have no credibility on anything as far as I'm concerned. I know more about the military than you ever will.
Clue: no way your ignorance and hubris will help out me or others.

You don't at all. I served at div and corpis hqs for several years.

You have a very twisted mind if you think what you are saying is accdurate.

 

[jacksonlamb]

other than hanging out in bars and now a career scamming the taxpayers, AOC is expert on nothing else.

You literally have nothing positive to add. I have gone back and read some of your stuff.

Thank heavens the JCCS and those with whom they work at the WH are on the ball.

 

[Stryder50]

You don't at all. I served at div and corpis hqs for several years.

You have a very twisted mind if you think what you are saying is accdurate.

As a REMF, if at all true.

If true, hopefully not in admin. Your spelling and grammar are atrocious. Not even 8th grade level.

 

[Meathead]

Thank heavens the brass kept him out of the room.

He is too erratic and ungrounded now, far more than ever.

He is jeopardizing are peoples' welfare and good being.

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3 hours ago

WOW: A stunning new report in the WSJ reveals that military advisers intentionally excluded Donald Trump from the command room during the recent high-stakes operation to extract a downed U.S. airman in Iran, because they feared his erratic behavior could jeopardize the mission.
According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump was in such a volatile state after Iran shot down a U.S. jet that he spent hours screaming at aides in the West Wing, obsessing over the political fallout and invoking Jimmy Carter and the 1979 hostage crisis. Officials made the call to limit his access, only briefing him at “meaningful moments” instead of giving him real-time control.
Meanwhile, the operation itself nearly fell apart, with aircraft stuck in desert sand and U.S. forces scrambling to avoid Iranian detection. The airman was eventually rescued, but the chaos didn’t end there.
Just hours later, Trump woke up and fired off his profanity-laced threat online, warning Iran it would be left “living in Hell.”

So the military decided bomb the hell out of Iran, driving up the price of gas and so on.

 

[Stryder50]

This stuck me as the Military knowing what to do while a Tinpot Boss fumbles around worrying his head over stuff that...

Well you know. Come on, we all know. This was a good thing, and nobody is going to be calling for the heads of the top military brass involved

Why military brass kept Trump sidelined during high-stakes Iranian extraction operation - report​

Military aides kept Trump out of the Situation Room during the high-stakes Iran rescue mission of a US airman, fearing his temper would derail the mission.​

Just a replay of the WSJ pravda.
Not a valid "other source" to confirm the pravda of the WSJ "article".

 

[Stryder50]

How is Trump’s plan better than what Obama had in place?

Obama's plan was a disaster !
One hair short of aiding and abetting an enemy.

Almost any other plan, or no plan, would have been better.