Military families dissaprove of Bush's War

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A majority of military families-- active duty, vets and families -- disapprove of Bush and his war. and only 36 percent believe the war was worth it.


Military Families Question Iraq War as Support for Bush Slips

By Christopher Stern


Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Kent Fletcher, an Iraq war veteran, says he enthusiastically voted for President George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. Now, he is a registered Democrat who questions the need for the war, the way it has been managed and the treatment of returning veterans.

``Saddam Hussein wasn't a threat and the culmination of my career was that war and it wasn't necessary,'' says Fletcher, 32, a financial analyst in Bluffton, South Carolina, who served almost 10 years as an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps.

A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll shows that Fletcher's skepticism about the war reflects a growing disenchantment within the broader military community, long a bastion of support for the Bush administration and Republicans. Among active-duty military, veterans and their families, only 36 percent say it was worth going to war in Iraq. This compares with an Annenberg survey taken in 2004, one year after the invasion, which showed that 64 percent of service members and their families supported the war.

The views of veterans and their families are now closer in line with overall public sentiment. The poll shows that 32 percent of the general population supports the war.

`Enormous Sacrifices'

The change isn't ``surprising,'' says Andrew Bacevich, a former Army colonel and professor of international relations at Boston University whose son was killed in Iraq in May. ``Military families have been asked to make enormous sacrifices.''

The poll conducted Nov. 30-Dec. 3 also finds that 37 percent of military-family members approve of the job Bush is doing as president, a little more than the general population. The 2004 poll by the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School of Communications in Philadelphia found that twice as many military families approved of Bush's performance.

``I don't think our commander-in-chief has inclusive long- term goals sketched out,'' said Victoria Colhouer, 49, of St. Petersburg, Florida, whose son is serving in Iraq.

The same trend holds true on the question of the treatment of active-duty military, veterans and their families. The poll finds that only 29 percent of all poll respondents say they believe the Bush administration is doing a good job handling those needs. Among military families, who directly benefit from those programs, 35 percent say the administration is doing a good job.

Favoring Democrats

At the same time, a plurality of military-family members, 39 percent, say they believe Democrats are likely to do a better job handling those issues, compared with 35 percent for Republicans.

When it comes to candidates in next year's presidential election, military families are less reliably Republican than in earlier campaigns. Two Democrats, Senators Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois run slightly ahead of former Republican Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney among those voters, and both Democrats trail only slightly former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The survey of 1,467 adults nationwide includes 631 military family members, active-duty personnel and veterans. The margin of sampling error for all adults is plus or minus 3 percentage points; for the military families it is plus or minus 4 points


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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8
 
This military retiree (and the entire family) disapproves of the war, and they didn't even survey us.:rofl:
 
A majority of military families-- active duty, vets and families -- disapprove of Bush and his war. and only 36 percent believe the war was worth it.


Military Families Question Iraq War as Support for Bush Slips

By Christopher Stern


Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Kent Fletcher, an Iraq war veteran, says he enthusiastically voted for President George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. Now, he is a registered Democrat who questions the need for the war, the way it has been managed and the treatment of returning veterans.

``Saddam Hussein wasn't a threat and the culmination of my career was that war and it wasn't necessary,'' says Fletcher, 32, a financial analyst in Bluffton, South Carolina, who served almost 10 years as an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps.

A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll shows that Fletcher's skepticism about the war reflects a growing disenchantment within the broader military community, long a bastion of support for the Bush administration and Republicans. Among active-duty military, veterans and their families, only 36 percent say it was worth going to war in Iraq. This compares with an Annenberg survey taken in 2004, one year after the invasion, which showed that 64 percent of service members and their families supported the war.

The views of veterans and their families are now closer in line with overall public sentiment. The poll shows that 32 percent of the general population supports the war.

`Enormous Sacrifices'

The change isn't ``surprising,'' says Andrew Bacevich, a former Army colonel and professor of international relations at Boston University whose son was killed in Iraq in May. ``Military families have been asked to make enormous sacrifices.''

The poll conducted Nov. 30-Dec. 3 also finds that 37 percent of military-family members approve of the job Bush is doing as president, a little more than the general population. The 2004 poll by the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School of Communications in Philadelphia found that twice as many military families approved of Bush's performance.

``I don't think our commander-in-chief has inclusive long- term goals sketched out,'' said Victoria Colhouer, 49, of St. Petersburg, Florida, whose son is serving in Iraq.

The same trend holds true on the question of the treatment of active-duty military, veterans and their families. The poll finds that only 29 percent of all poll respondents say they believe the Bush administration is doing a good job handling those needs. Among military families, who directly benefit from those programs, 35 percent say the administration is doing a good job.

Favoring Democrats

At the same time, a plurality of military-family members, 39 percent, say they believe Democrats are likely to do a better job handling those issues, compared with 35 percent for Republicans.

When it comes to candidates in next year's presidential election, military families are less reliably Republican than in earlier campaigns. Two Democrats, Senators Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois run slightly ahead of former Republican Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney among those voters, and both Democrats trail only slightly former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The survey of 1,467 adults nationwide includes 631 military family members, active-duty personnel and veterans. The margin of sampling error for all adults is plus or minus 3 percentage points; for the military families it is plus or minus 4 points


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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8

What a crock of shit. Those numbers pretty-much are indicative of nothing. 1,467 and less than half were made up of dependents, active duty and vets -- meaning just about anyone.
 
This vet knows of no military families who are against the war,..seems to be a non issue!
 
I wouldn't have expected much else from one that calls himself demturds


This vet knows of no military families who are against the war,..seems to be a non issue!

And goes further to broadcast his service in a signature line.

They must've missed you and you are still living in base housing, dem turd.
 
I wouldn't have expected much else from one that calls himself demturds




And goes further to broadcast his service in a signature line.

They must've missed you and you are still living in base housing, dem turd.

Ohhh,..Dem turd,....that hurts! God loves you!
 
What a crock of shit. Those numbers pretty-much are indicative of nothing. 1,467 and less than half were made up of dependents, active duty and vets -- meaning just about anyone.

Do you see now how scientific polls can be considered anything BUT 'scientific'? Just because a corporation conducts a poll, and says it's "scientific", doesn't mean it amounts to anything but an example.

You can't take a poll of 1,500 people and say it represents America as a whole. There's always going to be demographics that weren't included, and some that were OVER-included.

The only real poll is a physical vote, or a ballot referendum. That's when EVERYONE has the chance to be included in the numbers.
 
A glitch in the Matrix?

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A majority of military families-- active duty, vets and families -- disapprove of Bush and his war. and only 36 percent believe the war was worth it.


Military Families Question Iraq War as Support for Bush Slips

By Christopher Stern


Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Kent Fletcher, an Iraq war veteran, says he enthusiastically voted for President George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. Now, he is a registered Democrat who questions the need for the war, the way it has been managed and the treatment of returning veterans.

``Saddam Hussein wasn't a threat and the culmination of my career was that war and it wasn't necessary,'' says Fletcher, 32, a financial analyst in Bluffton, South Carolina, who served almost 10 years as an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps.

A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll shows that Fletcher's skepticism about the war reflects a growing disenchantment within the broader military community, long a bastion of support for the Bush administration and Republicans. Among active-duty military, veterans and their families, only 36 percent say it was worth going to war in Iraq. This compares with an Annenberg survey taken in 2004, one year after the invasion, which showed that 64 percent of service members and their families supported the war.

The views of veterans and their families are now closer in line with overall public sentiment. The poll shows that 32 percent of the general population supports the war.

`Enormous Sacrifices'

The change isn't ``surprising,'' says Andrew Bacevich, a former Army colonel and professor of international relations at Boston University whose son was killed in Iraq in May. ``Military families have been asked to make enormous sacrifices.''

The poll conducted Nov. 30-Dec. 3 also finds that 37 percent of military-family members approve of the job Bush is doing as president, a little more than the general population. The 2004 poll by the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School of Communications in Philadelphia found that twice as many military families approved of Bush's performance.

``I don't think our commander-in-chief has inclusive long- term goals sketched out,'' said Victoria Colhouer, 49, of St. Petersburg, Florida, whose son is serving in Iraq.

The same trend holds true on the question of the treatment of active-duty military, veterans and their families. The poll finds that only 29 percent of all poll respondents say they believe the Bush administration is doing a good job handling those needs. Among military families, who directly benefit from those programs, 35 percent say the administration is doing a good job.

Favoring Democrats

At the same time, a plurality of military-family members, 39 percent, say they believe Democrats are likely to do a better job handling those issues, compared with 35 percent for Republicans.

When it comes to candidates in next year's presidential election, military families are less reliably Republican than in earlier campaigns. Two Democrats, Senators Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois run slightly ahead of former Republican Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney among those voters, and both Democrats trail only slightly former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The survey of 1,467 adults nationwide includes 631 military family members, active-duty personnel and veterans. The margin of sampling error for all adults is plus or minus 3 percentage points; for the military families it is plus or minus 4 points


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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8

I think that everyone knows that bush's war was a crock of fabrication to make his buddies rich. Well, everyone except Gunny Gomer PiLe. The entire country is ready for bush to retire to his ranch in texas and shovel manure for the rest of his life.

That is an easy job compared to that of the next President who will be shoveling the manure that bush has left for the rest of his tenure.

The one thing that bush has accomplished is to put the GOP in more trouble with the voting population that it was post Nixon. He should be proud! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
 
I think that everyone knows that bush's war was a crock of fabrication to make his buddies rich. Well, everyone except Gunny Gomer PiLe. The entire country is ready for bush to retire to his ranch in texas and shovel manure for the rest of his life.

That is an easy job compared to that of the next President who will be shoveling the manure that bush has left for the rest of his tenure.

The one thing that bush has accomplished is to put the GOP in more trouble with the voting population that it was post Nixon. He should be proud! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:

Claims to be for military families, yet there is this:
The survey of 1,467 adults nationwide includes 631 military family members, active-duty personnel and veterans. The margin of sampling error for all adults is plus or minus 3 percentage points; for the military families it is plus or minus 4 points Military families wasn't the focus, Bash Bush was.

That doesn't remove the real issue, but it can't be addressed when there is this such obvious bias.
 

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