Michigan Election Officials' Request to Recant 2020 Certifications Made Under Duress, Should Decertify Biden Electoral Votes

[Big Bend Texas]

They got away with cheating. And I bet they think they can cheat again in 2024.

Only if we allow it.

 

[busybee01]

Dems will continue to pretend that there is no evidence.

Most Americans know there was no fraud.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Most Americans know there was no fraud.

There was most definitely fraud, the only question is as to whether or not it was enough to change the outcome of the election.

 

[lennypartiv]

Most Americans know there was no fraud.

Trump's rallies drew huge crowds. Biden's rallies had sparse attendance. That alone is solid proof there was voter fraud.

 

[BlindBoo]

If Biden is not the legitimate president,

If is the most powerful word in the English language.

There was no legitimate challenge to any of the 50 states certified election results. Not one.

 

[AntonToo]

What we can do is keep exposing every bit of the illegality involved and fight like hell in every state to change the laws so it can never happen again.

What we believe is really irrelevant, what is known is that according to all the exit polling Trump lost the one demographic he absolutely needed to get a win and that was the independent votes.

National elections are won in the middle, decided by the independents, not on the fringes decided by the parties.

So just to be clear - you are saying we need to expose illegality involved...but that overall looks like Trump lost fair and square. His loss is not a matter of someone doing something illegal, it's a matter of him failing to get the votes needed to win.

 

[AntonToo]

There was most definitely fraud, the only question is as to whether or not it was enough to change the outcome of the election.

We aren't talking about individual Trumpsters voting for their dead relatives.

We are obviously talking about some sort of major fraud conspiracy, involving significant number of votes.

After all the bullshit peddling by Trump and his people can you name ONE? Just one serious case of anything like that proven.

 

[lennypartiv]

If is the most powerful word in the English language.

There was no legitimate challenge to any of the 50 states certified election results. Not one.

Two court decisions went in Trump's favor, one in PA and one in WI.

 

[BlindBoo]

Two court decisions went in Trump's favor, one in PA and one in WI.

Have all the appeals been heard yet?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

We aren't talking about individual Trumpsters voting for their dead relatives.

We are obviously talking about some sort of major fraud conspiracy, involving significant number of votes.

After all the bullshit peddling by Trump and his people can you name ONE? Just one serious case of anything like that proven.

No it wouldn't take a large conspiracy to throw an election. There's only so many ways to throw a election so completely unrelated activists and they will overlap.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Two court decisions went in Trump's favor, one in PA and one in WI.

And another in Rhode Island if I recall.

Most of the challenges were never made in court because the courts declared they didn't have standing.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Have all the appeals been heard yet?

Why ask such a stupid question? It can take years for appeals to be filed and ruled on.

What grounds were there in any of those cases for filing an appeal?

 

[BlindBoo]

Why ask such a stupid question? It can take years for appeals to be filed and ruled on.

What grounds were there in any of those cases for filing an appeal?

Oh that's right none of those could possibly invalidate any ballot from 2020 either. There is just so many wacked out claims by my Neo-GOP friends that it's hard to keep up.

"Nearly 2.5 million currently registered Pennsylvania voters have cast at least one no-excuse mail-in ballot since the law now facing a constitutional challenge was passed.

The ballot option, created through Act 77 of 2019, will likely stay in place at least through the May 17 primary, but a ruling in favor of the case raised by a Bradford County election worker and 14 state House Republicans last summer could strike the law down.

The consolidated cases came before the Commonwealth Court in October, which ruled in January that it is the Constitution, not the Legislature, that decides what qualifies as an acceptable ballot method for elections in Pennsylvania.

The case made it to the state Supreme Court last week, as the justices heard arguments in the lawsuit brought in part by some of the Republican state representatives who voted overwhelmingly for expanded mail-in balloting about two years ago."

PA Mail-in voter case awaits state Supreme Court decision. About 2.5M voters could be affected if law is struck down

Millions of voters have used no-excuse mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania since the 2020 primary, but a court ruling could strike the ballots down in future elections.

www.buckscountycouriertimes.com

 

[Lastamender]

Most Americans know there was no fraud.

Wrong, over half think there was fraud. Stop lying.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Oh that's right none of those could possibly invalidate any ballot from 2020 either. There is just so many wacked out claims by my Neo-GOP friends that it's hard to keep up.

"Nearly 2.5 million currently registered Pennsylvania voters have cast at least one no-excuse mail-in ballot since the law now facing a constitutional challenge was passed.

The ballot option, created through Act 77 of 2019, will likely stay in place at least through the May 17 primary, but a ruling in favor of the case raised by a Bradford County election worker and 14 state House Republicans last summer could strike the law down.

The consolidated cases came before the Commonwealth Court in October, which ruled in January that it is the Constitution, not the Legislature, that decides what qualifies as an acceptable ballot method for elections in Pennsylvania.

The case made it to the state Supreme Court last week, as the justices heard arguments in the lawsuit brought in part by some of the Republican state representatives who voted overwhelmingly for expanded mail-in balloting about two years ago."

PA Mail-in voter case awaits state Supreme Court decision. About 2.5M voters could be affected if law is struck down

Millions of voters have used no-excuse mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania since the 2020 primary, but a court ruling could strike the ballots down in future elections.

www.buckscountycouriertimes.com

That's a whole lot of overtime you're putting in just to avoid dealing with what I said above.

Care to try again?

Desert Texan said:
Why ask such a stupid question? It can take years for appeals to be filed and ruled on.

What grounds were there in any of those cases for filing an appeal?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Wrong, over half think there was fraud. Stop lying.

"Facts Suck!"

New Poll: Most Say 2020 Election Was Totally Loaded with Fraud

townhall.com

Well over half of those Americans polled believe there was significant fraud in the 2020 election.

All that really remains in question is "How much" and "Was it enough to change the outcome.

 

[BlindBoo]

That's a whole lot of overtime you're putting in just to avoid dealing with what I said above.

Care to try again?

Can any of those cases invalidate any vote, ever?

 

[BlindBoo]

"Facts Suck!"

New Poll: Most Say 2020 Election Was Totally Loaded with Fraud

townhall.com

Well over half of those Americans polled believe there was significant fraud in the 2020 election.

All that really remains in question is "How much" and "Was it enough to change the outcome.

A majority of Americans trust that elections are fair, are confident in their state and local governments' ability to administer elections, and will trust the results in 2022 and in 2024 regardless of whether their preferred candidate wins, a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll finds.

The survey also found that most Americans feel that former President Donald Trump has continued to say the 2020 election was rigged mostly because he didn't like the outcome.

But those results are largely because of Democrats and independents.

Many Republicans appear to have bought into Trump's lies about nonexistent widespread fraud in an election he lost.

 

[AntonToo]

No it wouldn't take a large conspiracy to throw an election. There's only so many ways to throw a election so completely unrelated activists and they will overlap.

I'm not asking for large. I'm asking for even a SINGLE instance of any sort of signicant fraud conspiracy established in just one state in 2020 election. One.

Bill Barr who ran Trump's DOJ and followed up on the various claims circulating after there election said there was nothing to them.

Tell us, where did Barr go wrong? What did Trump's lapdog AG miss?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

I'm not asking for large. I'm asking for even a SINGLE instance of any sort of signicant fraud conspiracy established in just one state in 2020 election. One.

Bill Barr who ran Trump's DOJ and followed up on the various claims circulating after there election said there was nothing to them.

Tell us, where did Barr go wrong? What did Trump's lapdog AG miss?

Well, here's your "just one".

150 people charged with voter fraud in Texas since 2004, but convictions rarely mean jail time

More than 100 people have been charged with a voter fraud crime in the past 16 years in Texas. Complaints are rare, convictions rarer still and even then they rarely mean jail time.

www.kxan.com

And one to spare for good measure.

CBS Texas - Breaking Local News, First Alert Weather & I-Team Investigations

Latest breaking news from CBS11 KTVT-TV | KTXA-TV.

dfw.cbslocal.com

How about one more from another state?

One moment, please...