Michigan county seized retiree’s home over $8 debt

[Mac-7]

How so. Its the law, and I live in MI and I'm fully aware of the law.

I bet the county tax office never informed the man that he was short $8.41 on his taxes

the tax assessor/collector just waited quietly till the two years passed and pounced on his house

could be-----AN INSIDE JOB. The answer to the problem MAY BE the relationship between the
tax assessor and the buyer

Or anyone in the democrat power structure who has influence with the tax office

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Q. Will I receive notification before my property is foreclosed?
A. Yes. At least five attempts at notification will be made. Two will be by first class mail, two by certified mail, and the last notification will be made by personal service. In addition to these notifications, names and addresses of delinquent property owners may be published in the newspaper. It is the owner/taxpayer's responsibility to notify the local unit and us when there is an address change.

Did you not read your own link????? I didn't read all of it, but it does say the property owner did pay the first outstanding debt, but had miscalculated the next amount due that put him short.

AND the notices were sent to both the rental property AND the owner.

Unless it's different in MI, it usually takes about 3 years of delinquent taxes before the county takes your property

 

[irosie91]

Q. Will I receive notification before my property is foreclosed?
A. Yes. At least five attempts at notification will be made. Two will be by first class mail, two by certified mail, and the last notification will be made by personal service. In addition to these notifications, names and addresses of delinquent property owners may be published in the newspaper. It is the owner/taxpayer's responsibility to notify the local unit and us when there is an address change.

Did you not read your own link????? I didn't read all of it, but it does say the property owner did pay the first outstanding debt, but had miscalculated the next amount due that put him short.

AND the notices were sent to both the rental property AND the owner.

Unless it's different in MI, it usually takes about 3 years of delinquent taxes before the county takes your property

83 year old---could be a matter of senile dementia---they cheated him

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Well it was a republicans. What is it you do not understand about this.

You can argue the merits of 2 years vs 5

but it was the greed and dishonesty of the county tax office that screwed this man over

Why ? its a change of law? Its the city that taxes the property. How is the city greedy??

the county does the property taxs not the cities,,,

this just shows the evil of taxs,,,

We get the taxes from the city, not the county.

Do you own your home or do you rent????

Michigan Property Taxes By County - 2024

The Median Michigan property tax is $2,145.00, with exact property tax rates varying by location and county.

www.tax-rates.org

Property taxes are collected on a county level, and each county in Michigan has its own method of assessing and collecting taxes

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Q. Will I receive notification before my property is foreclosed?
A. Yes. At least five attempts at notification will be made. Two will be by first class mail, two by certified mail, and the last notification will be made by personal service. In addition to these notifications, names and addresses of delinquent property owners may be published in the newspaper. It is the owner/taxpayer's responsibility to notify the local unit and us when there is an address change.

Did you not read your own link????? I didn't read all of it, but it does say the property owner did pay the first outstanding debt, but had miscalculated the next amount due that put him short.

AND the notices were sent to both the rental property AND the owner.

Unless it's different in MI, it usually takes about 3 years of delinquent taxes before the county takes your property

83 year old---could be a matter of senile dementia---they cheated him

That could be part of it, especially if he didn't contact the county for address change when he moved. But yeah, the old man got cheated

 

[my2¢]

From what I see the Michigan Supreme Court ruled that the county had no right to the money over the amount which was due. The whole thing seems reasonable to me.

https://pacificlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/rafaeli-v-oakland-county-opinion.pdf

 

[Norman]

Meanwhile democrats are burning any property they can get their hands on in droves.

Silence... Oh except when righteous president Trump tries to defend the people against the rioters. Then they get really, really angry.

 

[Mac-7]

Q. Will I receive notification before my property is foreclosed?
A. Yes. At least five attempts at notification will be made. Two will be by first class mail, two by certified mail, and the last notification will be made by personal service. In addition to these notifications, names and addresses of delinquent property owners may be published in the newspaper. It is the owner/taxpayer's responsibility to notify the local unit and us when there is an address change.

Did you not read your own link????? I didn't read all of it, but it does say the property owner did pay the first outstanding debt, but had miscalculated the next amount due that put him short.

AND the notices were sent to both the rental property AND the owner.

Unless it's different in MI, it usually takes about 3 years of delinquent taxes before the county takes your property

83 year old---could be a matter of senile dementia---they cheated him

Not only cheated him but most likely someone connected with the local government profited from the crime

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In August 2011, Uri Rafaeli bought a three-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot home in the Detroit suburb of Southfield, Mich., for $60,000. He converted the fixer-upper into a rental property.

Two-and-a-half years later – and at the time unbeknownst to the retired engineer – Oakland County seized his property, put it up for auction and sold the house for $24,500. All this, after a mistake in calculating his property taxes left Rafaeli’s account delinquent by just $8.41. Oakland County ended up keeping all of the $24,500 from the sale, while Rafaeli, now 83, was left without the home and the income he made from renting it.

Michigan county seized retiree’s home over $8 debt – now he’s fighting back in state’s top court

While Uri Rafaeli’s case, which is currently being decided in Michigan’s Supreme Court, is extreme, it is hardly unique as more than 100,000 homeowners in the state have fallen victim to an aggressive property tax statute that legislators in Lansing passed two decades ago.

www.foxnews.com

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The gov signed the law, and it was a republican trifecta that year in 1999, so this is the fault of the republicans.
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Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020. Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020.

Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
With this new act, the amount of time to pay taxes has been reduced from approximately 5 years to approximately 2 years.

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

www.montcalm.us

LOL, blaming Republicans from 1999, instead of the many Democrats that have been running that shit hole since then. Dems could had changed the law, they also could had let this go, instead someone chose to take it to court and get the seizure on behalf of the Democrat run government.

Now go pound sand.

The first dem executive of Oakland county in decades was sworn in just last year. Google is your friend, crybaby.

 

[progressive hunter]

 

[theHawk]

In August 2011, Uri Rafaeli bought a three-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot home in the Detroit suburb of Southfield, Mich., for $60,000. He converted the fixer-upper into a rental property.

Two-and-a-half years later – and at the time unbeknownst to the retired engineer – Oakland County seized his property, put it up for auction and sold the house for $24,500. All this, after a mistake in calculating his property taxes left Rafaeli’s account delinquent by just $8.41. Oakland County ended up keeping all of the $24,500 from the sale, while Rafaeli, now 83, was left without the home and the income he made from renting it.

Michigan county seized retiree’s home over $8 debt – now he’s fighting back in state’s top court

While Uri Rafaeli’s case, which is currently being decided in Michigan’s Supreme Court, is extreme, it is hardly unique as more than 100,000 homeowners in the state have fallen victim to an aggressive property tax statute that legislators in Lansing passed two decades ago.

www.foxnews.com

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The gov signed the law, and it was a republican trifecta that year in 1999, so this is the fault of the republicans.
-----------------------------------------------------------

Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020. Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020.

Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
With this new act, the amount of time to pay taxes has been reduced from approximately 5 years to approximately 2 years.

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

www.montcalm.us

LOL, blaming Republicans from 1999, instead of the many Democrats that have been running that shit hole since then. Dems could had changed the law, they also could had let this go, instead someone chose to take it to court and get the seizure on behalf of the Democrat run government.

Now go pound sand.

False, republicans in the senate have been in majority of MI since 1984. We have many republican govenors.

And does the Senate have anything to do with county seizures? No.

Why don’t the thoughtful and caring Dems running the county now give him his money? I’m guessing he is too white for them to really care.

Because of the law!! The State republicans made the law.

And Dems refused to repeal it, so they own it.

 

[Papageorgio]

In August 2011, Uri Rafaeli bought a three-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot home in the Detroit suburb of Southfield, Mich., for $60,000. He converted the fixer-upper into a rental property.

Two-and-a-half years later – and at the time unbeknownst to the retired engineer – Oakland County seized his property, put it up for auction and sold the house for $24,500. All this, after a mistake in calculating his property taxes left Rafaeli’s account delinquent by just $8.41. Oakland County ended up keeping all of the $24,500 from the sale, while Rafaeli, now 83, was left without the home and the income he made from renting it.

Michigan county seized retiree’s home over $8 debt – now he’s fighting back in state’s top court

While Uri Rafaeli’s case, which is currently being decided in Michigan’s Supreme Court, is extreme, it is hardly unique as more than 100,000 homeowners in the state have fallen victim to an aggressive property tax statute that legislators in Lansing passed two decades ago.

www.foxnews.com

--------------------------------------------------------
The gov signed the law, and it was a republican trifecta that year in 1999, so this is the fault of the republicans.
-----------------------------------------------------------

Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020. Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020.

Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
With this new act, the amount of time to pay taxes has been reduced from approximately 5 years to approximately 2 years.

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

www.montcalm.us

It is also the Democrats fault as they did not earn the peoples respect and vote for the Democratic Party. Why hasn't the state of Michigan Democrats changed the law? You'd think if this was of serious concern to them, they would have tackled the issue.

So why didn't he pay the delinquent tax? He must of received letters and notifications from the state. He had 25 months, didn't the state notify him of the delinquency? The story doesn't add up. This seems extreme by the state of Michigan, today.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Well it was a republicans. What is it you do not understand about this.

You can argue the merits of 2 years vs 5

but it was the greed and dishonesty of the county tax office that screwed this man over

Why ? its a change of law? Its the city that taxes the property. How is the city greedy??

How is the city greedy?

I don't know, but which ever government organization sold the house and kept the proceeds is fucking greedy.

They stole his fucking property and kept $24,000 of the proceeds after the sale?

 

[Mac-7]

They stole his fucking property and kept $24,000 of the proceeds after the sale?

And the money went into some democrat’s pocket

 

[JOSweetHeart]

How so. Its the law, and I live in MI and I'm fully aware of the law.

I bet the county tax office never informed the man that he was short $8.41 on his taxes

the tax assessor/collector just waited quietly till the two years passed and pounced on his house

I second this. If the man was never given the proper heads up and the house is not given back to him any time soon, may the man not only sue whoever is responsible for this, but may the man kick butt in court!

God bless you and the man always!!!

Holly

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Blah blah blah blah.....blahblahblah.

Well,
He does actually make a good point.....

We need to get oppressive government greed OUT of our lives!

 

[Blues Man]

In August 2011, Uri Rafaeli bought a three-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot home in the Detroit suburb of Southfield, Mich., for $60,000. He converted the fixer-upper into a rental property.

Two-and-a-half years later – and at the time unbeknownst to the retired engineer – Oakland County seized his property, put it up for auction and sold the house for $24,500. All this, after a mistake in calculating his property taxes left Rafaeli’s account delinquent by just $8.41. Oakland County ended up keeping all of the $24,500 from the sale, while Rafaeli, now 83, was left without the home and the income he made from renting it.

Michigan county seized retiree’s home over $8 debt – now he’s fighting back in state’s top court

While Uri Rafaeli’s case, which is currently being decided in Michigan’s Supreme Court, is extreme, it is hardly unique as more than 100,000 homeowners in the state have fallen victim to an aggressive property tax statute that legislators in Lansing passed two decades ago.

www.foxnews.com

--------------------------------------------------------
The gov signed the law, and it was a republican trifecta that year in 1999, so this is the fault of the republicans.
-----------------------------------------------------------

Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020. Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020.

Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
With this new act, the amount of time to pay taxes has been reduced from approximately 5 years to approximately 2 years.

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

www.montcalm.us

In what town do people have to calculate their own property taxes>?

I have never once had to calculate the property taxes on any real estate I own''

The town send you a bill or if you have a mortgage it's usually paid out of the escrow account

 

[Penelope]

In August 2011, Uri Rafaeli bought a three-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot home in the Detroit suburb of Southfield, Mich., for $60,000. He converted the fixer-upper into a rental property.

Two-and-a-half years later – and at the time unbeknownst to the retired engineer – Oakland County seized his property, put it up for auction and sold the house for $24,500. All this, after a mistake in calculating his property taxes left Rafaeli’s account delinquent by just $8.41. Oakland County ended up keeping all of the $24,500 from the sale, while Rafaeli, now 83, was left without the home and the income he made from renting it.

Michigan county seized retiree’s home over $8 debt – now he’s fighting back in state’s top court

While Uri Rafaeli’s case, which is currently being decided in Michigan’s Supreme Court, is extreme, it is hardly unique as more than 100,000 homeowners in the state have fallen victim to an aggressive property tax statute that legislators in Lansing passed two decades ago.

www.foxnews.com

--------------------------------------------------------
The gov signed the law, and it was a republican trifecta that year in 1999, so this is the fault of the republicans.
-----------------------------------------------------------

Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020. Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
Public Act 123 of 1999 shortens the amount of time property owners have to pay their delinquent taxes before losing their property. Property owners with taxes that are 25 months delinquent will be foreclosed and the property will be sold at public auction. For example, people who fail to pay their 2017 delinquent property taxes will lose their property to foreclosure March 31, 2020.

Due to the Covid19 E.O from the governor the redemption period has been extended to at least 6/2/2020. Due to pending possible suits against the E.O. those dates may change.
With this new act, the amount of time to pay taxes has been reduced from approximately 5 years to approximately 2 years.

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

Welcome to County of Montcalm, Michigan

www.montcalm.us

In what town do people have to calculate their own property taxes>?

I have never once had to calculate the property taxes on any real estate I own''

The town send you a bill or if you have a mortgage it's usually paid out of the escrow account

Well it was a republicans. What is it you do not understand about this.

You can argue the merits of 2 years vs 5

but it was the greed and dishonesty of the county tax office that screwed this man over

Why ? its a change of law? Its the city that taxes the property. How is the city greedy??

the county does the property taxs not the cities,,,

this just shows the evil of taxs,,,

We get the taxes from the city, not the county.

Do you own your home or do you rent????

Michigan Property Taxes By County - 2024

The Median Michigan property tax is $2,145.00, with exact property tax rates varying by location and county.

www.tax-rates.org

Property taxes are collected on a county level, and each county in Michigan has its own method of assessing and collecting taxes

But due to a mistake he made in calculating his interest, he was short of paying off his balance by $8.41.

apparently he didn't wait for them to send him his bill.

 

[Penelope]

How so. Its the law, and I live in MI and I'm fully aware of the law.

I bet the county tax office never informed the man that he was short $8.41 on his taxes

the tax assessor/collector just waited quietly till the two years passed and pounced on his house

I second this. If the man was never given the proper heads up and the house is not given back to him any time soon, may the man not only sue whoever is responsible for this, but may the man kick butt in court!

God bless you and the man always!!!

Holly

I hope he loses.

 

[Penelope]

Well it was a republicans. What is it you do not understand about this.

You can argue the merits of 2 years vs 5

but it was the greed and dishonesty of the county tax office that screwed this man over

Why ? its a change of law? Its the city that taxes the property. How is the city greedy??

How is the city greedy?

I don't know, but which ever government organization sold the house and kept the proceeds is fucking greedy.

They stole his fucking property and kept $24,000 of the proceeds after the sale?

Everybody know you need to pay taxes on property in a set amount of time, unless you have always rented.