Michelle Obama’s $400 Million ‘Food Desert’ Scam

[Intense]

I think the taxpayers of America spend enough on that forced charity called Welfare.

If the First Lady wants more and better then mayby OL'BO should write another book and donate the proceeds to Welfare.

I think she should open up her own market, on her own dime, making a difference like the rest of us, on our own terms. Show us the example. Show us the books.

 

[Intense]

What does that have to do with availability of healthier food dumbass? That doesn't explain why healthier food is more expensive than unhealthy, greasy, sugary, fatty food.

Part of the cost formula is processing, the more the demand, the better the breaks in getting it on the shelf. There is a natural course here, if you just let it be.

You don't think poor people demand good food? To buy free produce in the inner city is almost twice as expensive as it is in the suburbs, its not a matter of low demand or that people don't want good healthy food, its a matter costs and affordability.

Bullshit.

 

[007]

The 'new conservatives' in Washington are going to do jack shit, except matbe advocate the same old tried, tested and failed 1980s Reagan bullshit.

I'll remember that at least one of you ignorant liberal dumbass' said that when nothing could be further from the truth.

The liberals have been on an UNPRECEDENTED SPENDING SPREE of EPIC PROPORTIONS, and the people of America have been telling them to STOP SPENDING! They didn't listen, but the conservatives did. You got a big surprise coming there chief. Get a clue.

How did that spending spree to pay for two wars work out?

Conservatives always find the money to go to war......ask to spend money to help Americans and they cry......SOCIALISM

Oh bull shit... go ask owebama and the dems. They've been funding those wars all along, AND STILL ARE!

FAIL.

 

[Flaylo]

Given the crime rate in many of these inner city neighborhoods, is it any surprise that businesses don't want to locate there. A business goes where it is safe and profitable to do business. A point seemingly lost on the first lady.

What does that have to do with availability of healthier food dumbass? That doesn't explain why healthier food is more expensive than unhealthy, greasy, sugary, fatty food.

Grocery stores operate on a very thin profit margin. If you want a grocery to move into your neighborhood then you need to see to it that the area is safe and conducive to business. A business on a thin margin can't afford the theft and security costs associated with many urban areas.

You gave the impression that there's a correlation between the non-availability of healthy food in inner city neighborhoods and crime rates and you couldn't prove shit, you blew it, because there is no correlation, the truth is that inner city people are not seen as nor treated as Americans so they get the worst of all things, be it health care, protection from crime, healthy food, housing and schools.

 

[Moon]

What does that have to do with availability of healthier food dumbass? That doesn't explain why healthier food is more expensive than unhealthy, greasy, sugary, fatty food.

Part of the cost formula is processing, the more the demand, the better the breaks in getting it on the shelf. There is a natural course here, if you just let it be.

You don't think poor people demand good food? To buy free produce in the inner city is almost twice as expensive as it is in the suburbs, its not a matter of low demand or that people don't want good healthy food, its a matter costs and affordability.

Why does it cost more in the inner city?

 

[Flaylo]

Part of the cost formula is processing, the more the demand, the better the breaks in getting it on the shelf. There is a natural course here, if you just let it be.

You don't think poor people demand good food? To buy free produce in the inner city is almost twice as expensive as it is in the suburbs, its not a matter of low demand or that people don't want good healthy food, its a matter costs and affordability.

Bullshit.

No, I'm called you out on your bullshit bud.

 

[Vel]

What does that have to do with availability of healthier food dumbass? That doesn't explain why healthier food is more expensive than unhealthy, greasy, sugary, fatty food.

Part of the cost formula is processing, the more the demand, the better the breaks in getting it on the shelf. There is a natural course here, if you just let it be.

You don't think poor people demand good food? To buy free produce in the inner city is almost twice as expensive as it is in the suburbs, its not a matter of low demand or that people don't want good healthy food, its a matter costs and affordability.

Now you need to figure out WHY it is more expensive. What costs do stores in urban areas have that result in increased prices?

 

[Intense]

What does that have to do with availability of healthier food dumbass? That doesn't explain why healthier food is more expensive than unhealthy, greasy, sugary, fatty food.

Grocery stores operate on a very thin profit margin. If you want a grocery to move into your neighborhood then you need to see to it that the area is safe and conducive to business. A business on a thin margin can't afford the theft and security costs associated with many urban areas.

You gave the impression that there's a correlation between the non-availability of healthy food in inner city neighborhoods and crime rates and you couldn't prove shit, you blew it, because there is no correlation, the truth is that inner city people are not seen as nor treated as Americans so they get the worst of all things, be it health care, protection from crime, healthy food, housing and schools.

Neighborhoods become dangerous because the local's make it that way. There is plenty of cash for drugs and prostitution. You want change in your local community, you take part in making it happen. Your argument is bullshit. When parent's neglect their kid's in the projects, because of their dysfunction, be it addiction or what ever, that is what contributes most significantly to the perpetuation of the problem. Second, is your type of excuses and finger pointing.

 

[Intense]

You don't think poor people demand good food? To buy free produce in the inner city is almost twice as expensive as it is in the suburbs, its not a matter of low demand or that people don't want good healthy food, its a matter costs and affordability.

Bullshit.

No, I'm called you out on your bullshit bud.

Let me know when you get a clue?

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Publications/AP/AP036/AP036_reportsummary.pdf




Access to a supermarket or large grocery store is a problem for a small percentage of
households. Results indicate that some consumers are constrained in their ability to access
affordable nutritious food because they live far from a supermarket or large grocery store and do
not have easy access to transportation. Three pieces of evidence corroborate this conclusion:
• Of all U.S. households, 2.3 million, or 2.2 percent, live more than a mile from a supermarket
and do not have access to a vehicle. An additional 3.4 million households, or 3.2 percent of all
households, live between one-half to 1 mile and do not have access to a vehicle.
• Area-based measures of access show that 23.5 million people live in low-income areas
(areas where more than 40 percent of the population has income at or below 200 percent
of Federal poverty thresholds) that are more than 1 mile from a supermarket or large
grocery store. However, not all of these 23.5 million people have low income. If estimates
are restricted to consider only low-income people in low-income areas, then 11.5 million
people, or 4.1 percent of the total U.S. population, live in low-income areas more than 1
mile from a supermarket.
• Data on time use and travel mode show that people living in low-income areas with limited
access spend significantly more time (19.5 minutes) traveling to a grocery store than the
national average (15 minutes). However, 93 percent of those who live in low-income areas
with limited access traveled to the grocery store in a vehicle they or another household
member drove.



Access to Affordable and
Nutritious Food
Measuring and Understanding Food Deserts
and Their Consequences
Report to Congress
United States
Department
of Agriculture
Economic
Research
Service
Report to
Congress
June 2009
Access to Affordable and
Nutritious Food: Measuring and
Understanding Food Deserts and
Their Consequences
This report was prepared by the Economic Research Service (ERS), the Food
and Nutrition Service (FNS), and the Cooperative State Research, Education,
and Extension Service (CSREES) of the U.S. Department of Agriculture under
the direction of Michele Ver Ploeg of ERS. Contributors include Vince Breneman,
Tracey Farrigan, Karen Hamrick, David Hopkins, Phil Kaufman, Biing-Hwan Lin,
Mark Nord, Travis Smith, and Ryan Williams of ERS; Kelly Kinnison, Carol Olander,
and Anita Singh of FNS; and Elizabeth Tuckermanty of CSREES. Rachel Krantz-
Kent and Curtis Polen of the Bureau of Labor Statistics and Howard McGowan and
Stella Kim of the U.S. Census Bureau assisted ERS staff in analyzing data from the
American Time Use Survey.

 

[Flaylo]

Grocery stores operate on a very thin profit margin. If you want a grocery to move into your neighborhood then you need to see to it that the area is safe and conducive to business. A business on a thin margin can't afford the theft and security costs associated with many urban areas.

You gave the impression that there's a correlation between the non-availability of healthy food in inner city neighborhoods and crime rates and you couldn't prove shit, you blew it, because there is no correlation, the truth is that inner city people are not seen as nor treated as Americans so they get the worst of all things, be it health care, protection from crime, healthy food, housing and schools.

Neighborhoods become dangerous because the local's make it that way. There is plenty of cash for drugs and prostitution. You want change in your local community, you take part in making it happen. Your argument is bullshit. When parent's neglect their kid's in the projects, because of their dysfunction, be it addiction or what ever, that is what contributes most significantly to the perpetuation of the problem. Second, is your type of excuses and finger pointing.

The locals the didn't make the ghettoes and are no more responsible for the shit thats exists there than inmates in prison are responsible for the shitty conditions in prisons.

 

[uscitizen]

I'm not sure about "poor" people having no cars ... a lot of them sure drive around in cars I can't afford. Even so, they still descend like locusts on their local Walmart on "payday" and other shoppers are smart enough to know you never go to Walmart on those days.

It's a game. True story: I was in line behind a woman who used her food stamp card to buy a pack of gum and requested $100 back in cash AND wanted to know if she could use her card again that same day. Now, what do you think she was going to do with that $100?

Never go to the grocery on double coupon or seniors day.
One old person can block an entire aisle for 10 minutes.
Cart parked on one side as they stand on the other side reading a label.
and fyi I am an old fart.

 

[Vel]

You gave the impression that there's a correlation between the non-availability of healthy food in inner city neighborhoods and crime rates and you couldn't prove shit, you blew it, because there is no correlation, the truth is that inner city people are not seen as nor treated as Americans so they get the worst of all things, be it health care, protection from crime, healthy food, housing and schools.

Neighborhoods become dangerous because the local's make it that way. There is plenty of cash for drugs and prostitution. You want change in your local community, you take part in making it happen. Your argument is bullshit. When parent's neglect their kid's in the projects, because of their dysfunction, be it addiction or what ever, that is what contributes most significantly to the perpetuation of the problem. Second, is your type of excuses and finger pointing.

The locals the didn't make the ghettoes and are no more responsible for the shit thats exists there than inmates in prison are responsible for the shitty conditions in prisons.

So who do you think is responsible?

 

[Skull Pilot]

You gave the impression that there's a correlation between the non-availability of healthy food in inner city neighborhoods and crime rates and you couldn't prove shit, you blew it, because there is no correlation, the truth is that inner city people are not seen as nor treated as Americans so they get the worst of all things, be it health care, protection from crime, healthy food, housing and schools.

Neighborhoods become dangerous because the local's make it that way. There is plenty of cash for drugs and prostitution. You want change in your local community, you take part in making it happen. Your argument is bullshit. When parent's neglect their kid's in the projects, because of their dysfunction, be it addiction or what ever, that is what contributes most significantly to the perpetuation of the problem. Second, is your type of excuses and finger pointing.

The locals the didn't make the ghettoes and are no more responsible for the shit thats exists there than inmates in prison are responsible for the shitty conditions in prisons.

Wow.

So tell me whose fault is it that a community is a shit hole? Let me guess....conservatives?

 

[Truthmatters]

open your eyes people.


SNIP:
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
By Terence P. Jeffrey


First lady Michelle Obama discusses the findings of the Childhood Obesity Task Force report in May. (AP Photo)

First Lady Michelle Obama has called on Congress to create a $400 million-a-year program to encourage the establishment of supermarkets in places she calls “food deserts.”

The situation in these “food deserts,” as Mrs. Obama describes it, is quite dire indeed. American children are growing fat because their parents cannot get to a supermarket—to buy fruits and vegetables—without undergoing the hardship of boarding a bus or riding a taxi. As a consequence, food-desert-dwelling children are forced to eat fast food and junk procured at chain restaurants and convenience stores.

In a March 10 speech, the first lady painted a sad picture of their plight. “Right now, 23.5 million Americans, including 6.5 million kids, live in what we call ‘food deserts’—these are areas without a supermarket,” she explained. “And as a result these families wind up buying their groceries at the local gas station or convenience store, places that offer few, if any, healthy options.”


She offered a solution. “Let’s move to ensure that all families have access to healthy, affordable foods in their community,” she said. “(W)e’ve set an ambitious goal here: to eliminate food deserts in America within seven years.

“To do that,” she said, “we’re creating a Healthy Food Financing Initiative that’s going to invest $400 million a year—and leverage hundreds of millions more from the private sector—to bring grocery stores to underserved areas and help places like convenience stores carry healthier options.”

Pushing this $400 million food-desert-eradication plan became a standard part of Mrs. Obama’s stump speech.

In February, she promoted it in a Philadelphia neighborhood she said had just emerged from a 10-year period without a supermarket—thanks to subsidies from the enlightened state government of Pennsylvania.

“For 10 years, folks had to buy their groceries at places like convenience stores and gas stations, where usually they don’t have a whole lot of fresh food, if any, to choose from,” said Mrs. Obama. “So that means if a mom wanted to buy a head of lettuce to make a salad in this community, or have some fresh fruit for their kids’ lunch, that means she would have to get on a bus, navigate public transportation with the big bags of groceries, probably more than one time a week, or, worse yet, pay for a taxicab ride to get some other supermarket in another community, just to feed her kids.”

Congress left town for the November election without having approved any fiscal 2011 spending bill. So, as of yet, it is uncertain whether Mrs. Obama will get her $400 million-per-year to subsidize supermarkets in “food deserts.” The agricultural bill that has been working its way through Congress includes only a $40 million earmark for the program.

But does it deserve a single penny?

In the 2008 farm bill, Congress mandated that the department conduct a $500,000 study of “food deserts.” The study—“Access to Affordable and Nutritious Food: Measuring and Understanding Food Deserts and Their Consequences”—was published in June 2009.

The report demonstrates that Mrs. Obama’s depiction of American “food deserts” is fatuous at best. Lower-income Americans live closer to supermarkets than higher-income Americans.

read it all here..
Michelle Obama?s $400 Million ?Food Desert? Scam | CNSnews.com

Looks like the study sited by this clown agrees with Mrs. Obama.

 

[uscitizen]

And btw Big cities suck.
Not sure why people live there? Hive mentality?

 

[Intense]

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Publications/AP/AP036/AP036_reportsummary.pdf




Access to a supermarket or large grocery store is a problem for a small percentage of
households. Results indicate that some consumers are constrained in their ability to access
affordable nutritious food because they live far from a supermarket or large grocery store and do
not have easy access to transportation. Three pieces of evidence corroborate this conclusion:
• Of all U.S. households, 2.3 million, or 2.2 percent, live more than a mile from a supermarket
and do not have access to a vehicle. An additional 3.4 million households, or 3.2 percent of all
households, live between one-half to 1 mile and do not have access to a vehicle.
• Area-based measures of access show that 23.5 million people live in low-income areas
(areas where more than 40 percent of the population has income at or below 200 percent
of Federal poverty thresholds) that are more than 1 mile from a supermarket or large
grocery store. However, not all of these 23.5 million people have low income. If estimates
are restricted to consider only low-income people in low-income areas, then 11.5 million
people, or 4.1 percent of the total U.S. population, live in low-income areas more than 1
mile from a supermarket.
• Data on time use and travel mode show that people living in low-income areas with limited
access spend significantly more time (19.5 minutes) traveling to a grocery store than the
national average (15 minutes). However, 93 percent of those who live in low-income areas
with limited access traveled to the grocery store in a vehicle they or another household
member drove.



Access to Affordable and
Nutritious Food
Measuring and Understanding Food Deserts
and Their Consequences
Report to Congress
United States
Department
of Agriculture
Economic
Research
Service
Report to
Congress
June 2009
Access to Affordable and
Nutritious Food: Measuring and
Understanding Food Deserts and
Their Consequences
This report was prepared by the Economic Research Service (ERS), the Food
and Nutrition Service (FNS), and the Cooperative State Research, Education,
and Extension Service (CSREES) of the U.S. Department of Agriculture under
the direction of Michele Ver Ploeg of ERS. Contributors include Vince Breneman,
Tracey Farrigan, Karen Hamrick, David Hopkins, Phil Kaufman, Biing-Hwan Lin,
Mark Nord, Travis Smith, and Ryan Williams of ERS; Kelly Kinnison, Carol Olander,
and Anita Singh of FNS; and Elizabeth Tuckermanty of CSREES. Rachel Krantz-
Kent and Curtis Polen of the Bureau of Labor Statistics and Howard McGowan and
Stella Kim of the U.S. Census Bureau assisted ERS staff in analyzing data from the
American Time Use Survey.

What your study needs to focus on is Cities, not rural. That focus blows your claim out of the water. I don't claim to know the whole country, NYC, choice is abundant.

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Publications/AP/AP036/AP036_reportsummary.pdf


.Access to a supermarket or large grocery store is a problem for a small percentage of
households. Results indicate that some consumers are constrained in their ability to access
affordable nutritious food because they live far from a supermarket or large grocery store and do
not have easy access to transportation Three pieces of evidence corroborate this conclusion:
• Of all U.S. households, 2.3 million, or 2.2 percent, live more than a mile from a supermarket
and do not have access to a vehicle. An additional 3.4 million households, or 3.2 percent of all
households, live between one-half to 1 mile and do not have access to a vehicle.
• Area-based measures of access show that 23.5 million people live in low-income areas
(areas where more than 40 percent of the population has income at or below 200 percent
of Federal poverty thresholds) that are more than 1 mile from a supermarket or large
grocery store. However, not all of these 23.5 million people have low income. If estimates
are restricted to consider only low-income people in low-income areas, then 11.5 million
people, or 4.1 percent of the total U.S. population, live in low-income areas more than 1
mile from a supermarket.
• Data on time use and travel mode show that people living in low-income areas with limited
access spend significantly more time (19.5 minutes) traveling to a grocery store than the
national average (15 minutes). However, 93 percent of those who live in low-income areas
with limited access traveled to the grocery store in a vehicle they or another household
member drove.






Hey guys did you ignore that the study sited AGREED with Mrs. Obama?

 

[Intense]

You gave the impression that there's a correlation between the non-availability of healthy food in inner city neighborhoods and crime rates and you couldn't prove shit, you blew it, because there is no correlation, the truth is that inner city people are not seen as nor treated as Americans so they get the worst of all things, be it health care, protection from crime, healthy food, housing and schools.

Neighborhoods become dangerous because the local's make it that way. There is plenty of cash for drugs and prostitution. You want change in your local community, you take part in making it happen. Your argument is bullshit. When parent's neglect their kid's in the projects, because of their dysfunction, be it addiction or what ever, that is what contributes most significantly to the perpetuation of the problem. Second, is your type of excuses and finger pointing.

The locals the didn't make the ghettoes and are no more responsible for the shit thats exists there than inmates in prison are responsible for the shitty conditions in prisons.

You are in denial. We are all responsible for personal behavior.

 

[California Girl]

It's quite simple. If there was a market for their services, then grocer stores would build them. However, it would be fairly straightfoward for those who are concerned about accessing a decent market to buy healthy food to organize car pools, local bus etc. If those actually affected don't give a shit, why should anyone else.

They could help themselves.... that's the conservative way. They could sit on their fat assess waiting for 'Gummit' to do it for them... that's the liberal way.