I wanted to start this thread first, to Thank The Creator & The Jewish Nation for Being The Vessel Of God to bring us, The Word Of God.
I want to thank God for Messiah who is called The Word of God, and again Thank The Jewish Nation for being The Vessel through which Immanuel Messiah Bin Joseph came in to this world, to offer Himself up as The Lamb of God who takes away The Sins of The World.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss Messiah. The Prophecies regarding His 2nd Coming and The Scriptures. Discussion of The Man Of Sorrows, Messiah Bin Joseph who offered Himself as a once and forever sacrifice for Israel, for Gentiles and The Whole World.
I would like to discuss The Jewish and Gentile views of Messiah Bin Joseph, Messiah Bin David, The Building of The Third Temple, The Throne of David in Jerusalem, and the coming Kingdom of God. The Last 7 Years Of Prophecy as wrotten in The Book Of Daniel and all related End Time Prophecies.
You do not have to be a Christian
to participate. You do not have to be a Jew to participate. Just be curious and respectful of different views of Yahshua, and discuss and learn in Love with one another.
I will not offer an opening view, but ask you to
tell me what your views are. I ask so you may answer. And when you answer I will ask.
This is how discussions are born. Shall we begin?
There is ONLY ONE Messiah and that is Jesus Christ, if you disagree you are of The Anti-Christ.
"You do not have to be a Christian
to participate."
If you do NOT agree that there is ONLY ONE Messiah and that is Jesus Christ then you are NOT Christian, you are of The Anti-Christ.
"Just be curious and respectful of different views of Yahshua"
Why should a Child of Jesus Christ be respectful of anyone who REJECTS Jesus Christ as the ONLY Messiah? Why should a Child of Jesus Christ respect agents of The Anti-Christ?
"The Building of The Third Temple"
The Third Temple is for The Anti-Christ who those who get on their knees to praise 24/7 those who REJECT Jesus Christ will then instead ACCEPT The Anti-Christ as THE Messiah and will be ultimately thrown into The Eternal Lake of Fire with The False Prophet and The Anti-Christ, that IS in my Christian Bible not sure what's in your bible.
some debate around the edges because one third of the Bible is prophecy. fitting all of the pieces of prophecy into a coherent whole is a nightmare. famously Matthew Henry threw up his hands at explaining how more than half a century before Israel would be reborn Israel would beat Russia in a future war. Neither China nor India is mentioned in the Bible but one of them will field the 200 million man army that Jesus will kill on his return. America either is not mentioned or only obliquely in prophecy with the predominant opinion being the US will not be a major political unit when the Anti-Christ is reveled.
How do you get India? I agree about China, they logically could field a 200 million man army, not sure about India so you will have to elaborate, however that 200 million man army is The Anti-Christ army and I am not sure if China or India are The Anti-Christ Nation. The United States of America is more logical as Mystery, Babylon, New York City primarily Manhattan Island is more logical as The Whore of Babylon, I will elaborate more about my theory on this after I have had a sleep, getting tired right now. If you think that America will not be a major political until when The Anti-Christ is revealed does that mean you think America will have been destroyed or why would America be out of action when The Anti-Christ is revealed?
If The Rapture happens, and there are a significant amount of Christians in various parts of Government, Industry, Aerospace, Law Enforcement, The Military, it would put America in a Chaotic State.
Something could happen combined with that, such as Yosemite's Caldron erupting, or a meteor strike, and EMP, or a Comet exploding over The US which would create the same effect. All sorts of things are going to happen near the end times. The Bible also talks about The Restrainer having to be removed, before AntiChrist takes power. That could be The Church being raptured. HARD to say how much America could be involved. There is somewhere in scripture where The Bible talks about The Young Lions of Tarshish, and a Captain of 50 who defends Israel, but I believe something occurs that leaves Israel isolated, so that Only God gets The Credit for Defending Israel.
All of these things require study to be sure, but it is good to discuss them here and share what we do know, and then take that and expand upon it with our own studies and sharing.
I commented last night my top candidate at this moment for The Anti-Christ is Emmanuel Macron, of course as Satan is the Master of Deception he is not going to be this obvious, so Macron could be one of the many anti-christs he is probably NOT The Anti-Christ.
My theory is that Mystery, Babylon is The United States of America, one of the names our Bible give to The Anti-Christ is The King of Babylon, this does not have to be that he is whoever at that time is American President as we see with The Donald he is NOT fully in charge, he is NOT the most powerful man on earth when he CANNOT even send troops to protect America's borders, he is PREVENTED from doing this and those who prevent him are probably OF The Anti-Christ. So whoever IS in charge 100% of running America is probably The Anti-Christ, The King of Babylon.
My theory to why America is Mystery, Babylon two parts one from the description of The Whore of Babylon, some have the theory that it is Rome, The Vatican City, the purple and scarlet, the Seven Hills but many years ago the now capital of America Washington DC was called Rome, Maryland and it still has Seven Hills. The original owner of Rome, Maryland was a man called Francis Pope, interesting as my theory that The Anti-Pope Francis is The False Prophet is very strong and we know The False Prophet has deep connections to The Anti-Christ. The Seven Hills of Washington DC that were also the Seven Hills of Rome, Maryland are Capital Hill, Meridian Hill, Floral Hills, Forest Hills, Hillbrook, Hillcrest and Knox Hill. Rome, Maryland was actually called also Rome on the Tiber, originally called Goose Creek it was renamed Tiber Creek by Francis Pope and today Tiber Creek is part of the Washington City Canal (the original Tiber River of course runs in Rome, Italy)
Tiber Creek - Wikipedia
Also this to elaborate on Rome, Maryland name change to Washington DC:
Well, one of the estates which made up the original city of Washington was called Rome. Have you heard about Rome, Washington? Probably not, so read on.
D.C. has an interested historical connection to the city of Rome. This might be one of the more fascinating pieces of local trivia we have ever come across.
A long time ago, way before the city was in the thoughts of our founding fathers, back in the 17th century, there was a large estate in the area of about 400 acres. This farm occupied the land southeast of Georgetown (then, a part of Maryland). The man who owned the land was fond of Italy and decided to name the estate Rome, in honor of the city. The small body of water bordering it to the south was originally called Goose Creek, but then took the new name, Tiber Creek (i.e., after the The Tiber in Rome). Of course, the story wouldn’t be complete without mentioning that the landowner’s name happened to be Francis Pope.
According to an article I came across in The Washington Post from October 7th, 1883, the land was laid out and acquired by Pope on June 5th, 1663. Also, legend has it, that Francis was very proud of his ingenious naming scheme, often telling anyone who’d listen that America had its own Rome on the Tiber, and a Pope lived there.
The final coincidence, of course, is a modern addition to the story, as the current Pope residing the The Vatican holds the name Pope Francis, and he is the first pope ever to come from the Americas. So, while the title of this post is slightly misleading, a large plot of land which would eventually become part of Washington was named Rome.
So, there was a Rome here before there was a Washington.
Washington Was Originally Called Rome? - Ghosts of DC
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=/local/marylands-classics-department-looks-at-connections-between-rome-and-washington/2014/03/17/ce5f04e0-a873-11e3-8599-ce7295b6851c_story.html?&utm_term=.12f1dce77e98
This Barbara Price a descendent of Francis Pope she has researched him and this the below she find:
Hi All,
I have done extensive research on the beginnings of Washington, DC as my Burnes family owned much of the old downtown are of present-day Washington, DC.While conducting this research, I came across Francis Pope, one of the original owners of the land that became Washington, DC.Not only are we connected in that way, but Francis's wife, Margaret Porter, is probably the sister of another ancestor, Johanna Porter, the second wife of John Neville, who came to America on The Ark and The Dove.Below is from, "Original Patentees of Land at Washington," by Bessie Wilmarth Gahn:
"No. 7.Francis Pope, owner of "Rome" on the Tyber,
June 5, 1663.
In the early records of Annapolis, one finds:
ffrancis Pope, transported since 1635; wife 1649 (1).
And in the Proceedings of the early Assemblies:
ffrancis Pope---member of the Assembly in September, 1642 (2), and 1667 and 1670, he was Justice of the Peace for Charles County, Maryland. (3)
In an old volume of precious records at Annapolis, Liber 6, folio 318:"June 5th, 1663, Lyd out for Francis Pope of this Province, Gent., a parcel of land in Charles County called Rome, lying on the East side of the Anacostian River (4) [meaning here, the main channel of the Potomac], beginning at amarked oak standing by the River side, the bounded tree of Captain Robert Troop and running north by the river for breadth the length 200 perches to a bounded oak standing at the mought of a bay or inlet called Tiber, bounding on the north by the said Lett and a line drawn east for the length of 320 perches to a bounded oak standing in the woods on the East with a line drawn south from the end of the former line until you meet with the exterior bounded tree of Robert Troop called Scotland Yard on the south with the said land, on the west with the said river (Tyber), containing and now laid out for 400 acres more or less."
Francis Pope, Original Landown - Genealogy.com
Now to the actual description from our Bible of The Whore of Babylon:
Revelation 17:
17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
^^^^ The Vatican City does not sit upon many waters. But New York City Manhattan Island does it is surrounded by waters.
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
^^^^ Manhattan Island Financial Centre of the world.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
^^^^ The Vatican City not have a symbol of a woman with a golden cup. The Statue of Liberty IS a woman she holds not a golden cup but a golden torch.
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
^^^^
The Statue of Liberty, Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi design this after the Roman Goddess Libertas, the Goddess of Freedom including Sexual Freedom she was called the Goddess of Prostitution. Libertas was based on the Babylonian Ishtar who was also called the Mother of Harlots.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
^^^^ New York City the unfortunate Melting Pot and also the UN Building, The Vatican City is not that type of melting pot.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
^^^^ The Whore of Babylon described as a CITY, so it's NOT a Church ie. The Vatican and Manhattan Island the Financial Centre of the world reign over the kings of the earth because in Manhattan the Financial Sorcery they commit and with that if they want to they can collapse other nations economic structure.
Also The Whore of Babylon must be full of massive amounts of Athiest Jews who reject Jesus Christ because in one FINAL attempt to save them God tells them to flee Babylon before it falls and they do flee but most of them STILL will continue to rebel against Our Lord, The Vatican City and Rome does not have this only New York City does.
Here is a webpage where this Andy Neckar at Community Bible Chapel-Hico, TX explains more, he agrees with my theory and I agree with his theory, both using Biblical Text to define Mystery, Babylon and The Whore of Babylon:
MYSTERY BABYLON (MB)—USA
The land of the USA
Zech 5:11 The land of Shinar:
Mystery Babylon is the lone Global Superpower
A global superpower in three ways
Economic Superpower
Military Superpower
Political Superpower-
Major Port City-
Greatest and Wealthiest city the world has ever seen-
Home to a large population of Jewish Exiles-
Mystery Babylon is represented by a Woman- Nation/country
A Study on Mystery Babylon
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