Merrick Garland Has No Legal Standing Against Trump

[Care4all]

I don't care if Bill Barr says that he has a case.......Merrick Garland has no legal standing to investigate Trump on any documents that were at Mara-lago....and he knows it. Here's why:

"When government drones “classify” documents, they do so only because their authority comes from the president. They can neither challenge nor exceed the president’s authority. Neither can Congress for that matter.​

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This isn’t me saying that. This is the Supreme Court of the United States in an unchallenged decision that relies on a long-standing (as in, back to 1788) assignment of power to the executive. Presidents can voluntarily respect a national security law, but they do not have to abide by it.​

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That’s because the president—and only the president—has plenary power when it comes to national security matters. Plenary power means “a power that has been granted to a body or person in absolute terms, with no review of or limitations upon the exercise of that power.”​

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The leading case on this is Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988), which considered whether a civil service board can review a “laborer’s” being denied national security clearance. In that context, the Supreme Court was clear about the president’s plenary power:​

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Note that there are no procedural rules the president must follow to exercise his authority. Again, that’s because neither Congress nor the bureaucracy (which reports to the president) has the power to impose rules on him.​

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Because Trump was still the President of the United States, at the very moment when he transferred those documents from the White House to his private residence, they were automatically and instantly declassified. After that, nothing in his possession was either “sensitive” or “classified,” and neither the current nor the past Attorney General can change that fact."​

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Bill Barr’s latest anti-Trump diatribe explodes the myth that he’s a wise man

The Bible holds that “Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise…” (Proverbs 17:28.) In the modern era, with attribution to Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln, or others, that’s been reworked as “Better to remain ...

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But can a President throw out an executive order of one of the previous president's without issuing an executive order rescinding the Executive Order LAWS on the books by a previous president?

Can a President, retroactively claim he declassified documents while a sitting president, WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE that he did declassify them? Just so he can try to get out of his own legal woes? Or are there two solid witnesses to such, supporting his claim at the time?

we need some answers....

 

[Care4all]

Bullshit. The Clintons wanted that stuff. It wasnt a case of accidentally packing up the wrong items. How do i know that? Because once they were caught and told to give it back, the Clintons bought it all to make it "legal".

Nope! Not even close!

the Republican investigation of it showed it was totally a misunderstanding that was caused by the agencies in n charge of designating gifts between what was meant as a gift to the Clinton's vs a gift to the Whitehouse.

the Clinton's IMMEDIATELY returned it all!

when the investigation by the Agency was done, the Clinton's bought half of the items taken, and the Whitehouse kept the other stuff... Except, Two of the items returned were actually gifted to the Clintons and theirs.

the record keeping was crappy and sloppy, and changes allegedly were made to the Agency responsible to better, their system.

 

[mudwhistle]

But can a President throw out an executive order of one of the previous president's without issuing an executive order rescinding the Executive Order LAWS on the books by a previous president?

Can a President, retroactively claim he declassified documents while a sitting president, WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE that he did declassify them? Just so he can try to get out of his own legal woes? Or are there two solid witnesses to such, supporting his claim at the time?

we need some answers....

Again...you didn't read the OP or didn't understand it.

According to the Supreme Court....the POTUS has the final say on classified material.
When he leaves office everything he takes with him is declassified automatically once he sends it to his private residence. He doesn't even have to sign anything to make this happen....it's just what he says goes. This is an authority that has been in place for over 200 years. It's never been an issue with any president, up until now.

It doesn't matter if Biden steals these documents from his home in a raid and has them re-classified. They weren't classified when they were in the former president's possession. If anything....Merrick Garland can be prosecuted for abusing Trump's constitutional rights. Biden, of course, claimed not to know about it before it happened, which if he did, would make him libel as well.

 

[mudwhistle]

You guys always come back to this old and quite frankly DUMB argument.

Trump is at this moment a FORMER president. Any rights awarded to a president (however dictatorial you presume they are) ended when his successor was inaugurated.

This is not considering the whole stupidity of the notion that respecting national security laws is some kind of voluntary thing for a President. The oath of office he took would be meaningless for one.

Or the stupidity of the notion that declassification is some kind of automatic de jure thing triggered by Trump taking the documents from its secure setting.

I imagine you'll be surprised how Garland's "standing" will result in actual charges in front of an actual judge, completely independent from your opinion on how the law works.

Again....read the OP.
It was pretty straight forward.

And you will discover as you discovered after 2 years of the Mueller Investigation that no charges are pending....because no laws were broken. As in this case....it's 100% fabricated and 100% pure political harassment.

They can't prove that Trump incited violence on Jan 6th....and they can't charge him with mishandling classified documents because everything he took with him was automatically declassified as he and his lawyers have stated many times.

 

[forkup]

Again....read the OP.
It was pretty straight forward.

And you will discover as you discovered after 2 years of the Mueller Investigation that no charges are pending....because no laws were broken. As in this case....it's 100% fabricated and 100% pure political harassment.

They can't prove that Trump incited violence on Jan 6th....and they can't charge him with mishandling classified documents because everything he took with him was automatically declassified as he and his lawyers have stated many times.

I read the OP. Just because you consider it straightforward doesn't mean it isn't bullshit.

Let's start with the fact that none of the potential charges laid out in the unsealed warrant relies on classification. Don't take my word for it. Redacted Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit Released
18 usc 793, 1519, 2017 are cited.

Second, even IF I would accept this idea that a president is the only arbiter on classification and IF that would be in any way important to the relevant statutes (it isn't). Then you still have the issue that Trump ISN'T president so it would be Biden that is the arbiter of classification and just because Trump declassified by the same logic Biden could just claim they were classified and as such your ridiculous argument would be voided by the fact the CURRENT executive branch claims they were classified. In this situation, the current administration would by default take precedence.

 

[mudwhistle]

I read the OP. Just because you consider it straightforward doesn't mean it isn't bullshit.

Let's start with the fact that none of the potential charges laid out in the unsealed warrant relies on classification. Don't take my word for it. Redacted Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit Released
18 usc 793, 1519, 2017 are cited.

Second, even IF I would accept this idea that a president is the only arbiter on classification and IF that would be in any way important to the relevant statutes (it isn't). Then you still have the issue that Trump ISN'T president so it would be Biden that is the arbiter of classification and just because Trump declassified by the same logic Biden could just claim they were classified and as such your ridiculous argument would be voided by the fact the CURRENT executive branch claims they were classified. In this situation, the current administration would by default take precedence.

18 USC 793 deals with copying codes or blueprints to be sold illegally. They can't bring charges for this because there's no proof that Trump intended to sell secrets to foreign governments, the way Hillary and Bill sold missile technology to the Chinese....and Obama gave drone technology to Iran. Both of them should have been arrested for treason. I noticed that Democrats always accuse others of crimes they're guilty of. No telling what Biden has given the Chinese and Ukraine. You have to catch them in the act of selling them. You can't just assume that he plans on doing it.

18 USC 1519 deals with altering documents.....and this is BS because if Trump were to put his signature on a memo they can't arrest him for this. The DOJ has no jurisdiction over the EOs or anything else the POTUS does with respect to his documents. This won't stand up in court if they choose to bring an indictment.

18 USC 2017 deals with concealment.....and they knew everything Trump had. He wasn't concealing it. He didn't remove it from his home. If he had....they never would have found it at Mara-lago. This is why they made claims he was moving documents at the air port. This isn't proof because they don't know what Trump's lawyers had in those boxes....and they never proved when those boxes were being moved. Having documents in your office files isn't proof of concealment. It's just an assumption based on the prejudice of the DOJ and the FBI.


Just because Biden is trying to fuck Trump over....he cannot re-classify documents he isn't in possession of. They have to be under his control. They can reclassify them when they get them back....but they can't just arbitrarily accuse Trump of having classified documents....because they were declassified when they were removed from the White House.

 

[forkup]

18 USC 793 deals with copying codes or blueprints to be sold illegally. They can't bring charges for this because there's no proof that Trump intended to sell secrets to foreign governments, the way Hillary and Bill sold missile technology to the Chinese....and Obama gave drone technology to Iran. Both of them should have been arrested for treason. I noticed that Democrats always accuse others of crimes they're guilty of. No telling what Biden has given the Chinese and Ukraine. You have to catch them in the act of selling them. You can't just assume that he plans on doing it.

18 USC 1519 deals with altering documents.....and this is BS because if Trump were to put his signature on a memo they can't arrest him for this. The DOJ has no jurisdiction over the EOs or anything else the POTUS does with respect to his documents. This won't stand up in court if they choose to bring an indictment.

18 USC 2017 deals with concealment.....and they knew everything Trump had. He wasn't concealing it. He didn't remove it from his home. If he had....they never would have found it at Mara-lago. This is why they made claims he was moving documents at the air port. This isn't proof because they don't know what Trump's lawyers had in those boxes....and they never proved when those boxes were being moved. Having documents in your office files isn't proof of concealment. It's just an assumption based on the prejudice of the DOJ and the FBI.


Just because Biden is trying to fuck Trump over....he cannot re-classify documents he isn't in possession of. They have to be under his control. They can reclassify them when they get them back....but they can't just arbitrarily accuse Trump of having classified documents....because they were declassified when they were removed from the White House.

18 USC 793 deals with copying codes or blueprints to be sold illegally.

(c)
Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

Feel free to point out what in this limits the statute just to selling national defense material?

18 USC 1519 deals with altering documents

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record
Nope, it deals with a bit more than altering documents. It deals for instance with this.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=jurj2ITrDTrAJW/JpaeMsg==&system=prod

Seems this is a false entry in any record. Considering they found something like 30 thousand pages of government records when the FBI searched.

18 USC 2017 deals with concealment.

Kind of hard to claim you weren't concealing anything when your lawyer delivers a false statement to the government about whether or not you have documents.

he cannot re-classify documents he isn't in possession of.

So, if I steal something from you, you lose the right of claiming ownership of that item?

These are GOVERNMENT records. Classified or Declassified doesn't change its status. This is the exact reason this of the wall declassification theory is simply irrelevant. They don't all of a sudden become Trump's personal property because he took them from the White House. They are the property of the GOVERNMENT, not Trump. That is the basis of the Presidential Records Act. And as such Biden or in this case, the DOJ as part of the executive branch is the authority on classification. If it would matter.

 

[JoeB131]

Riiiiiight........"processes".........

Like the "Process" your uncle Joe used to grant amnesty to student debt.
Totally illegal, totally unconstitutional....but as long as whatever "process" fits your liking all is good.

Got it.

Trump has plenty of reason to tell us his reason for keeping classified documents after he was president, and try to hide them from the FBI.

I just can't think of one that doesn't put him in a jail sell.

 

[mudwhistle]

(c)
Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

Feel free to point out what in this limits the statute just to selling national defense material?

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record
Nope it deals with a bit more than altering documents. It deals for instance with this.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=jurj2ITrDTrAJW/JpaeMsg==&system=prod

Seems this is a false entry in any record. Considerign they found something like 30 thousand pages of govenrment records when the FBI searched.

Kind of hard to claim you weren't concealing anything when your lawyer delivers a false statement to the government about whether or not you have documents.

So, if I steal something from you, you lose the right of claiming ownership of that item?

These are GOVERNMENT records. Classified or Declassified doesn't change its status. This is the exact reason this of the wall declassification theory is simply irrelevant. They don't all of a sudden become Trump's personal property because he took them from the White House. They are the property of the GOVERNMENT, not Trump. That is the basis of the Presidential Records Act. And as such Biden or in this case, the DOJ as part of the executive branch is the authority on classification. If it would matter.

National Defense Material.....that covers a lot of stuff. One false claim the FBI made was codes and nuke secrets, which proved to be horseshit. Last week the DOJ said they got nothing from the raid. Nothing was classified or illegal. We all know that the Clintons sold our Uranium to Russia. Is that a crime. We also know that they sold 3 stage missile technology to China. Is that a crime? We also know that Obama landed a Top Secret Drone in Tehran for some strange reason. Is that a crime?

Trump didn't conceal anything. How do you conceal something that is in your personal file system. The FBI broke into his safe and found nothing. If he had packed that shit in the walls or on in some place it normally wouldn't be....then you might have a case.

And Trump didn't steal anything. The White House staff packed all of that stuff up and shipped it to Mara-lago. If anything....THEY are the ones who did it, not Trump. If you can prove that Trump personally packed that shit up in boxes and taped it shut, knock yourself out.

It's highly debatable if any of the stuff they found in Mara-lago was property of the Government. They weren't marked property of the US Government. And all they had to do was ask for it back, MKay?

The only thing the FBI showed was some empty SECRET Nonforn document sleeves. If anything....the FBI took those with them and just tossed them on the floor to take the pictures. They don't represent proof of any kind. The fact that nobody was allowed to be present while they were tearing Trump's home to shreds shows they very easily could have planted that shit.

 

[forkup]

National Defense Material.....that covers a lot of stuff. One false claim the FBI made was codes and nuke secrets, which proved to be horseshit. Last week the DOJ said they got nothing from the raid. Nothing was classified or illegal.

Trump didn't conceal anything. How do you conceal something that is in your personal file system. The FBI broke into his safe and found nothing.

And Trump didn't steal anything. The White House staff packed all of that stuff up and shipped it to Mara-lago. If anything....THEY are the ones who did it, not Trump. If you can prove that Trump personally packed that shit up in boxes and tapped it shut, knock yourself out.

It's highly debatable if any of the stuff they found in Mara-lago was property of the Government. They weren't marked property of the US Government. And all they had to do was ask for it back, MKay?

The only thing the FBI showed was some empty SECRET Nonforn document sleeves. If anything....the FBI took those with them and just tossed them on the floor to take the pictures. They don't represent proof of any kind. The fact that nobody was allowed to be present while they were tearing Trump's home to shreds shows they very easily could have planted that shit.

Lol please, please, pleeeease let Trump's defense be "the FBI framed me" if he gets indicted. It's not just a cliche defense. It flies in the face of PUBLIC information currently available. Like for instance, a complete and utter lack of proof it happened and the complete and utter lack of any such claim being made even when asked about it by the Special Master THE DEFENSE asked for.

There's a serious difference between a claim being made on Fox and a claim being made in a court of law. But hey I'll love to see him try.

And by the way they did ask for them. For over a year politely, and then under the form of an actual subpoena. Trump made the choice to not give them back when asked. Again public records are available attesting to this fact.

 

[mudwhistle]

Lol please, please, pleeeease let Trump's defense be "the FBI framed me" if he gets indicted. It's not just a cliche defense. It flies in the face of PUBLIC information currently available. Like for instance, a complete and utter lack of proof it happened and the complete and utter lack of any such claim being made even when asked about it by the Special Master THE DEFENSE asked for.

There's a serious difference between a claim being made on Fox and a claim being made in a court of law. But hey I'll love to see him try.

And by the way they did ask for them. For over a year politely, and then under the form of an actual subpoena. Trump made the choice to not give them back when asked. Again public records are available attesting to this fact.

Well now you made a valid point. The only evidence you have is what the FBI leaked to the press....that makes it hearsay.

And the last time they paid a visit to Mara-lago they just told the Trump lawyers to put another lock on the stuff. They had every opportunity to take it with them and chose not to....obviously a set up from the beginning.

And how do you know that there was no proof they planted evidence? They were asked to turn off all of the monitors in the compound....and Trump's lawyers left them on...so any proof will be presented in court....if it ever makes it to court....which I seriously doubt.

 

[forkup]

Well now you made a valid point. The only evidence you have is what the FBI leaked to the press.

And the last time they paid a visit to Mara-lago they just told the Trump lawyers to put another lock on the stuff. They had every opportunity to take it with them and chose not to....obviously a set up from the beginning.

They didn't have the opportunity to "take" anything. That's what a subpoena means. The person under a subpoena is legally REQUIRED to give what is asked for. In order for the government to "take" something a search warrant is required. Which is EXACTLY what happened.

As for the FBI leaking. It is a judge that unseals. Something the defense can contest. They didn't. In fact, they claimed they wanted this stuff to be released.

 

[mudwhistle]

They didn't have the opportunity to "take" anything. That's what a subpoena means. The person under a subpoena is legally REQUIRED to give what is asked for. In order for the government to "take" something a search warrant is required. Which is EXACTLY what happened.

As for the FBI leaking. It is a judge that unseals. Something the defense can contest. They didn't. In fact, they claimed they wanted this stuff to be released.

Well apparently you seem to have an opinion based on a fallacy....because Trump's lawyers were cooperating with everything.
And taking possession of the docs was completely up to them.
What they were doing was looking for evidence that was incriminating to DOJ officials with respect to Operation Crossfire Hurricane and the Steele Dossier. Crossfire Hurricane (FBI investigation) - Wikipedia
Trump was going to nail their butts to the wall....and they broke into his home to steal the evidence or to see if any existed.

 

[forkup]

Well apparently you seem to have an opinion based on a fallacy....because Trump's lawyers were cooperating with everything.
And taking possession of the docs was completely up to them.
What they were doing was looking for evidence that was incriminating to DOJ officials with respect to Operation Crossfire Hurricane. Crossfire Hurricane (FBI investigation) - Wikipedia
Trump was going to nail their butts to the wall....and they broke into his home to steal the evidence.

My opinion is based on publicly available court documents. That tells me about the timeline of events, and the actual charges being investigated, and the different other legal statutes in play.

The defenses currently being implemented. Or in this case the crackpot legal theories, and an understanding of the difference between voluntary giving documents, being required to give documents under a subpoena, and being the subject of a search warrant. And the implications of that search warrant actually finding documents your own lawyer attested in an affidavit weren't present. Something that is the EXACT opposite of cooperating.

 

[mudwhistle]

My opinion is based on publicly available court documents. That tells me about the timeline of events, and the actual charges being investigated, and the different other legal statutes in play.

The defenses currently being implemented. Or in this case the crackpot legal theories, and an understanding of the difference between voluntary giving documents, being required to give documents under a subpoena, and being the subject of a search warrant. And the implications of that search warrant actually finding documents your own lawyer attested in an affidavit weren't present.

Sorry...but nothing available to the public is worth a hill of beans.
The only way you'd know the intimate details is if you were involved in the investigation.
And the original FBI subpoena was sent to the NARA in May asking for classified documents....that weren't classified anymore. These were part of the 15 boxes they recovered in January of 2022.
The next subpoena was a subpoena for surveilance footage in June.

None of the documents that were in Trump's possession were under subpoena.




Merrick Garland has been breaking into Trump associates homes all over the country looking for dirt....so they're on a document search looking for evidence of their own wrongdoing....and are trying to destroy evidence and obstruct justice.
This was just another abuse of his authority.

Mar-a-Lago search: A timeline of events that led to Monday’s search of Trump’s home

What was the government looking for at Mar-a-Lago?

www.fox13memphis.com

"Here’s a timeline of events.

January 2022

The National Archives had asked Trump for some of the materials it believed had been taken from the White House and stored at Mar-a-Lago in Florida after Trump left office.

Trump turned over 15 boxes of materials taken from the White House after negotiating with officials at the National Archives in 2021.

According to officials, the boxes included personal letters and gifts Trump had received, including a congratulatory letter from former President Barack Obama.

“These records should have been transferred to NARA from the White House at the end of the Trump administration in January 2021,” the National Archives said in a statement.

February 2022

After going through the documents, the National Archives discovered what appeared to be classified information. They called on the Justice Department for guidance, according to the Times.

The agency confirmed on Feb. 18 that they found “classified national security information” among the boxes of the material turned over by Trump.

The finding raised concern among lawmakers, who started investigating through the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

In a letter on Feb. 24, Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney, the chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, requested a detailed accounting from the National Archives of what was in the boxes.

April 2022

In April, the Justice Department instructed the National Archives not to share any details about the classified materials found at Mar-a-Lago with the House Oversight Committee.

May 2022

In early May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the classified documents found within the boxes.

Spring 2022

According to CNN, Trump aides including executive assistant Molly Michael, operations coordinator Beau Harrison, former White House staff secretary Derek Lyons, and former White House valet Walt Nauta, were interviewed by federal officials about the removal of documents to Mar-a-Lago or about their storage once brought to the resort.

June 3, 2022

DOJ and FBI officials present a grand jury subpoena at Mar-a-Lago and are shown a storage room where boxes containing White House documents and other materials are kept.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump attorneys hand over documents marked as “top secret.”

June 8, 2022

Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt reportedly sends a request that a stronger lock be put on the storage room door and that the boxes “be preserved in that room in their current condition until further notice.”

He signs off in the letter with, “Thank you. Very truly yours, Jay Bratt, chief of counterintelligence and export control section.”

June 22, 2022

Trump receives a subpoena for surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, according to the Journal.

Aug. 5, 2022

Reinhart issues a sealed search warrant for the former president’s home.

Aug. 8, 2022

FBI agents executed the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, going through Trump’s home for more than nine hours. According to reports, the agents concentrated on a bedroom, a safe, and at one point the former first lady Melania Trump’s closet. The remaining boxes are removed from the storage room.

Aug. 11, 2022

Attorney General Merrick Garland holds a news conference to say that he personally approved the search of the former president’s residence.

“The department does not take such a decision lightly,” he said, adding, that “it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search, and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken.”

What was found in Monday’s search?

A report from the Washington Post Thursday said that “Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought” in Monday’s search.

According to the story, “The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation.

“Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.”

On Friday morning, Trump denied the claim on his Truth Social platform.

“Nuclear weapons is a hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax,” referring to then-special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

The Times reported that while Garland provided no details, a person “briefed on the matter said investigators had been concerned about material from what the government calls “special access programs,” a designation that is typically reserved for extremely sensitive operations carried out by the United States abroad or for closely held technologies and capabilities.”

 

[forkup]

Sorry...but nothing available to the public is worth a hill of beans.
The only way you'd know the intimate details is if you were involved in the investigation.
And the original FBI subpoena was sent to the NARA in May asking for classified documents....that weren't classified anymore. These were part of the 15 boxes they recovered in January of 2022.
The next subpoena was a subpoena for surveilance footage in June.

None of the documents that were in Trump's possession were under subpoena.




Merrick Garland has been breaking into Trump associates homes all over the country looking for dirt....so they're on a document search looking for evidence of their own wrongdoing....and are trying to destroy evidence and obstruct justice.
This was just another abuse of his authority.

Mar-a-Lago search: A timeline of events that led to Monday’s search of Trump’s home

What was the government looking for at Mar-a-Lago?

www.fox13memphis.com

"Here’s a timeline of events.

January 2022

The National Archives had asked Trump for some of the materials it believed had been taken from the White House and stored at Mar-a-Lago in Florida after Trump left office.

Trump turned over 15 boxes of materials taken from the White House after negotiating with officials at the National Archives in 2021.

According to officials, the boxes included personal letters and gifts Trump had received, including a congratulatory letter from former President Barack Obama.

“These records should have been transferred to NARA from the White House at the end of the Trump administration in January 2021,” the National Archives said in a statement.

February 2022

After going through the documents, the National Archives discovered what appeared to be classified information. They called on the Justice Department for guidance, according to the Times.

The agency confirmed on Feb. 18 that they found “classified national security information” among the boxes of the material turned over by Trump.

The finding raised concern among lawmakers, who started investigating through the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

In a letter on Feb. 24, Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney, the chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, requested a detailed accounting from the National Archives of what was in the boxes.

April 2022

In April, the Justice Department instructed the National Archives not to share any details about the classified materials found at Mar-a-Lago with the House Oversight Committee.

May 2022

In early May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the classified documents found within the boxes.

Spring 2022

According to CNN, Trump aides including executive assistant Molly Michael, operations coordinator Beau Harrison, former White House staff secretary Derek Lyons, and former White House valet Walt Nauta, were interviewed by federal officials about the removal of documents to Mar-a-Lago or about their storage once brought to the resort.

June 3, 2022

DOJ and FBI officials present a grand jury subpoena at Mar-a-Lago and are shown a storage room where boxes containing White House documents and other materials are kept.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump attorneys hand over documents marked as “top secret.”

June 8, 2022

Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt reportedly sends a request that a stronger lock be put on the storage room door and that the boxes “be preserved in that room in their current condition until further notice.”

He signs off in the letter with, “Thank you. Very truly yours, Jay Bratt, chief of counterintelligence and export control section.”

June 22, 2022

Trump receives a subpoena for surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, according to the Journal.

Aug. 5, 2022

Reinhart issues a sealed search warrant for the former president’s home.

Aug. 8, 2022

FBI agents executed the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, going through Trump’s home for more than nine hours. According to reports, the agents concentrated on a bedroom, a safe, and at one point the former first lady Melania Trump’s closet. The remaining boxes are removed from the storage room.

Aug. 11, 2022

Attorney General Merrick Garland holds a news conference to say that he personally approved the search of the former president’s residence.

“The department does not take such a decision lightly,” he said, adding, that “it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search, and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken.”

What was found in Monday’s search?

A report from the Washington Post Thursday said that “Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought” in Monday’s search.

According to the story, “The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation.

“Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.”

On Friday morning, Trump denied the claim on his Truth Social platform.

“Nuclear weapons is a hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax,” referring to then-special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

The Times reported that while Garland provided no details, a person “briefed on the matter said investigators had been concerned about material from what the government calls “special access programs,” a designation that is typically reserved for extremely sensitive operations carried out by the United States abroad or for closely held technologies and capabilities.”

You give me fox news Memphis. I give you COURT DOCUMENTS delivered to a judge. Justice Department Files 40-Page Opposition to Mar-a-Lago Special Master Request
Page 7 and attachment E. Read and be educated I would say.

 

[mudwhistle]

You give me fox news Memphis. I give you COURT DOCUMENTS delivered to a judge. Justice Department Files 40-Page Opposition to Mar-a-Lago Special Master Request
Page 7 and attachment E. Read and be educated I would say.

You throw me a document that argues over whether they should have a special master or not and figure I won't bother to read it.
It goes from the assertion that Trump was being messy with his documents. This isn't proof that a crime was being committed. And as I stated in the OP none of those documents can be considered classified once they left the White House.....because President Trump authorized their removal....and the NARA doesn't get to decide what is classified over the authority of the POTUS. As I stated....this argument has been decided long ago.....I don't give a shit if it hairlips every clerk in the NARA.
The entire argument goes against settled law....and thus ignores the law and the constitution.

 

[forkup]

You throw me a document that argues over whether they should have a special master or not and figure I won't bother to read it.
It goes from the assertion that Trump was being messy with his documents. This isn't proof that a crime was being committed. And as I stated in the OP none of those documents can be considered classified once they left the White House.....because President Trump authorized their removal....and the NARA doesn't get to decide what is classified over the authority of the POTUS. As I stated....this argument has been decided long ago.....I don't give a shit if it hairlips every clerk in the NARA.
The entire argument goes against settled law....and thus ignores the law and the constitution.

I gave you specific pages so you don't have to read the entire thing. Page 7 states the DOJ subpoenaed documents with "classification markings" contrary to your claim that Trump didn't have any documents under subpoena. Attachment E is Trump's lawyer's response stating that Trump has delivered them all. I could have picked other briefs. All state the same background and none of that basic information is being contested.

 

[jc456]

Complete and utter nonsense.

So nobody really knows if something is classified until they ask the President? Because...since you say there is no record keeping on what is declassified and what isn't...how in the world can anyone know what is classified and what is not?

And, oh yeah, just because your blob says he declassified something, that doesn't make it his personal property...the documents belong in DC, not in his closet in Florida.

You guys give new meaning to the word idiot.

no standing,

 

[jc456]

I gave you specific pages so you don't have to read the entire thing. Page 7 states the DOJ subpoenaed documents with "classification markings" contrary to your claim that Trump didn't have any documents under subpoena. Attachment E is Trump's lawyer's response stating that Trump has delivered them all. I could have picked other briefs. All state the same background and none of that basic information is being contested.

everything is trump's.