Men surrounded for exercising Second Amendment rights.

[BlackSand]

Black Americans realized their comprehensive civil rights through the political and judicial process, not through violence.

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Blacks are currently recognizing their right to buy firearms and ammunition here ... Probably not to take to court.
Not that it would bother me ... More power to them.

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[freyasman]

don't much care how you feel about it...... and neither does the truth.

The truth? 11 morons in jail. There's your truth. There's always room for a 12th.

And?



How does throwing someone in a cage make you right?

 

[freyasman]

It grants no right period

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Lol ... Fort Fun Indiana ... Is one of those idiots that throws a gear when he finds out there isn't even an age restriction
in Federal Statute as to how old a person must be before they can own and possess an AR-15 and ammunition.

There's no age restriction on longarms ... Because we are Born with that Right ...

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Freedom seriously offends many people.

 

[harmonica]

freyasman
....the black culture is a failure for the same reasoning---

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I made no comment on their reasonings for being armed. Just that they can be.

Provided they’re in compliance with state firearm laws consistent with Second Amendment case law.

The Second Amendment does not give gunowners ‘carte blanche’ to do whatever they want with firearms or go anywhere they want with firearms.

 

[freyasman]

Lately the argument is that we really do not have 2nd Amendment rights and I do not see the biggest supporters of the 2nd Amendment doing a darn thing about this.

Massachusetts police responding to group of 'heavily armed men' claiming to 'not recognize our laws'

It appears a group of men ran out of gas and while refueling a police officer stopped. He arrested two of them and the rest fled into the woods. I'm missing an important aspect here. What did they do that was illegal to start with?

Yeah, because these guys were so resourceful, they ran out of gas on the side of the busiest interstate highway in the country.

They probably should include that in their training regiment.

I don't always run out of gas, but when I do, I make sure I have an AR 15 strapped over my shoulder for refilling.



This story proves beyond any doubt as to why militia groups will never be able to overthrow the US government. These assclowns don't have the brain cells necessary to carry out such an operation.

Hey shit for brains militia types. Overthrowing the government takes a lot more than a gun. I doubt very seriously, all of you nitwits put together, could take over a Waffle House.

I made no comment on their reasonings for being armed. Just that they can be. Our rights are not dependant on whether or not you or I agree with why a person is exercising them.

I totally disagree with what the KKK say but I support their right to say it.

What gets me about gun nut America, is they are all for their Constitutional rights, while at the same time saying how they don't think they have to abide by the laws they disagree with.

They are all for federalism with the things they agree with, but scream like school girls when that same Federalism is used by states that enforce laws those states citizens voted for.

Once you become an insurrectionist, with the intent of violating or overthrowing the nation or its laws, and this is a very important detail....

YOU NO LONGER HAVE ANY FUCKING RIGHTS

Bills of attainder are forbidden by the constitution...... and I bet that really pisses you off, doesn't it?

LOL

 

[freyasman]

Lately the argument is that we really do not have 2nd Amendment rights and I do not see the biggest supporters of the 2nd Amendment doing a darn thing about this.

Massachusetts police responding to group of 'heavily armed men' claiming to 'not recognize our laws'

It appears a group of men ran out of gas and while refueling a police officer stopped. He arrested two of them and the rest fled into the woods. I'm missing an important aspect here. What did they do that was illegal to start with?

Yeah, because these guys were so resourceful, they ran out of gas on the side of the busiest interstate highway in the country.

They probably should include that in their training regiment.

I don't always run out of gas, but when I do, I make sure I have an AR 15 strapped over my shoulder for refilling.



This story proves beyond any doubt as to why militia groups will never be able to overthrow the US government. These assclowns don't have the brain cells necessary to carry out such an operation.

Hey shit for brains militia types. Overthrowing the government takes a lot more than a gun. I doubt very seriously, all of you nitwits put together, could take over a Waffle House.

I made no comment on their reasonings for being armed. Just that they can be. Our rights are not dependant on whether or not you or I agree with why a person is exercising them.

I totally disagree with what the KKK say but I support their right to say it.

What gets me about gun nut America, is they are all for their Constitutional rights, while at the same time saying how they don't think they have to abide by the laws they disagree with.

They are all for federalism with the things they agree with, but scream like school girls when that same Federalism is used by states that enforce laws those states citizens voted for.

Once you become an insurrectionist, with the intent of violating or overthrowing the nation or its laws, and this is a very important detail....

YOU NO LONGER HAVE ANY FUCKING RIGHTS

I imagine there are some like that. I don't own a gun.

I got a spare you can borrow.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I totally disagree with what the KKK say but I support their right to say it.

And?

The First Amendment is neither unlimited nor absolute – the KKK have no right to engage in speech advocating for imminent lawlessness or violence.

Of all the protected liberties enshrined in the Bill of Rights, none are ‘absolute’ or ‘unlimited.’

 

[freyasman]

freyasman
....the black culture is a failure for the same reasoning---

One, you mean "ghetto culture", and two, nah..... that ain't why.

 

[harmonica]

freyasman LOVE criminals --hate law-order= idiocy..YES, that's one of the reasons their culture is a failure ......

 

[harmonica]

freyasman
“You can imagine 11 armed individuals standing with long guns slung on an interstate highway at 2 in the morning certainly raises concerns, and is not consistent with the firearms laws that we have here in Massachusetts,”
2:00 AM
stop the stupid shit

11 Arrested in Armed Roadside Standoff in Massachusetts

The men, who wore military-style gear and claimed to be “foreign nationals,” were part of an hourslong standoff with police officers.

www.nytimes.com

 

[struth]

Educated people know who the moors were and what color they were. I guess they have to spell it out for you people.

somebody has watched hollywood’s Robin Hood too many times...Moors did not refer to race. Moors were from Spain and Portuguese origin

They were originally North Africans, many of whom were black, all of them were Muslim.

muslim is not a race

 

[struth]

Educated people know who the moors were and what color they were. I guess they have to spell it out for you people.

somebody has watched hollywood’s Robin Hood too many times...Moors did not refer to race. Moors were from Spain and Portuguese origin

The Moors were North African Berbers and muslim, that invaded parts of Spain and Portugal. They were called Moors by the people living in the invaded lands.

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they were called Moors by the Brits...they created an empire that included parts Europe.

Not a race, like black or white

What does that have to do with their origin, what are most folks who come from Algeria and Morocco?

Arabs.....a lot of Moors settled their after the fall of the Kingdom of Al-Andalus

LMAO if they settled there it means they came from somewhere else.

agreed. as i said they settled in the places you mentioned after the kingdom of Al- Anduslus fell

 

[struth]

Educated people know who the moors were and what color they were. I guess they have to spell it out for you people.

somebody has watched hollywood’s Robin Hood too many times...Moors did not refer to race. Moors were from Spain and Portuguese origin

No they didn't.

yes Moors are what Brits called the folks that lived in the Kingdom of Al-Andalus....now Spain and Portugal

They conquered Southern Europe, they didn't originate from there.

that is where the term Moor originated.

Much like Americans didn’t originated in America.

 

[pknopp]

I made no comment on their reasonings for being armed. Just that they can be.

Provided they’re in compliance with state firearm laws consistent with Second Amendment case law.

The Second Amendment does not give gunowners ‘carte blanche’ to do whatever they want with firearms or go anywhere they want with firearms.

That's what places like Chicago and D.C. said when they placed restrictions on a persons 2nd Amendment rights. They didn't hold up.

 

[pknopp]

I totally disagree with what the KKK say but I support their right to say it.

And?

The First Amendment is neither unlimited nor absolute – the KKK have no right to engage in speech advocating for imminent lawlessness or violence.

Of all the protected liberties enshrined in the Bill of Rights, none are ‘absolute’ or ‘unlimited.’

These men harmed no one.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A police officer has the right to request ID. Always.

Fourth Amendment case law concerning when a citizen must identify himself to law enforcement is complex, convoluted, and often contradictory, depending on a wide variety of conditions, circumstances, and events.

In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada (2004), for example, the Supreme Court held that a Nevada law requiring those questioned during an investigative stop must provide ID to law enforcement did not violate the Fourth Amendment.

 

[Mustang]

Lately the argument is that we really do not have 2nd Amendment rights and I do not see the biggest supporters of the 2nd Amendment doing a darn thing about this.

Massachusetts police responding to group of 'heavily armed men' claiming to 'not recognize our laws'

It appears a group of men ran out of gas and while refueling a police officer stopped. He arrested two of them and the rest fled into the woods. I'm missing an important aspect here. What did they do that was illegal to start with?

What kind of a moron runs out of gas on a highway. They're too stupid to be armed.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

freyasman so you are pro-stupid
..people that have nothing to hide/obey the laws/are NOT stupid would answer the police questions...the cops did not just say ''let's go harass someone -
..that's why Floyd/etc are dead--NOT because of police brutality, but because they are stupid/etc

LE is supposed to be about enforcing the law...... if no laws are being broken, the what are they doing there?

How about..ascertaining that no laws are being broken..by the group of armed and uniformed men?
Laws WERE being broken...and they found that out. Good job. I guess if they were on their way to kill some people...you'd be all over the cops for letting them go?

Nope. LE can't detain people and go fishing..... if they don't have any evidence, then they need to just fuck off and go back to work.

Except..not what happened here at all. 1:30am ...on the side of the road and armed. Refused to give ID. Fled the scene. Pretty suspicious to me. No fishing need...the facts invited investigation.

They have every right to refuse to provide ID.
As for them fleeing into the woods, what were they "fleeing" from?
What exactly did the cop do when they told him "No."? I don't know and neither do you, from the sounds of it, but he didn't have any legitimate authority to do anything except say "Sorry to bother you guys, have a nice day.".

You think that's what he did? Because I don't..... I think he probably got aggressive and they fled rather than shoot him.

Cops do that when you tell them "No."; they get butthurt and pissy.

When told no...the cop called for backup..as he is trained to do...that's when they ran....running from the cops is an admission..all courts have held.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

That's what places like Chicago and D.C. said when they placed restrictions on a persons 2nd Amendment rights. They didn't hold up.

And again: if at some point in the future the Supreme Court rules that Mass’ license requirement is un-Constitutional, residents will be able to obtain firearms absent a license.

But the Supreme Court hasn’t made such a ruling, and Mass’ licensing requirement is perfectly lawful, Constitutional, enforceable, and consistent with the Second Amendment.