Meet the American ISIS

[irosie91]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

I take it a step further------I consider allowing mosque shitting on Christianity and Judaism and Hinduism etc ----to be CODDLING. children should not be
exposed to that kind of shit

 

[The Rabbi]

Let's see: people who want to force citizens to buy certain products? Yup
People who want to prevent with criminal penalties citizens from buying other products? Yup.
People who want to impose definitions of who can marry? Yup.
Yup, Progressives are the ISIS of the United States.

From what I've seen, Progressive sheep aren't the sharpest tools in the party

Oh I forgot, they also pray to a sky god called "Man-Made Climate Change" and threaten with extinction anyone who questions it.

 

[whitehall]

Not much difference between liberal and nazi. The word nazi is an acronym for nationalist socialist which is what we are experiencing under Obama. Only democrats use federal bureaucracies to try to crush opposition parties. Obama expanded the admittedly criminal enterprise known as the IRS to force Americans to buy insurance. Liberal nazis have been murdering the unborn (and newly born) in an abortion holocaust for decades and funding programs that supply the Frankenstein equipment designed to suck the brains out of full term infants. Democrats claim atheists are offended by the Christian Cross so they sledge hammer every vestige of Christianity in society while defending the jihad ideology that justifies the beheading of Christians and raping of Christian women and kidnapping children sold into slavery through the Mid East and Africa.

 

[bodecea]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

All those things like blue laws and those jewish courts and even not having school on Sunday........all religion based. Can they go bye bye too?

 

[bodecea]

Not much difference between liberal and nazi. The word nazi is an acronym for nationalist socialist which is what we are experiencing under Obama. Only democrats use federal bureaucracies to try to crush opposition parties. Obama expanded the admittedly criminal enterprise known as the IRS to force Americans to buy insurance. Liberal nazis have been murdering the unborn (and newly born) in an abortion holocaust for decades and funding programs that supply the Frankenstein equipment designed to suck the brains out of full term infants. Democrats claim atheists are offended by the Christian Cross so they sledge hammer every vestige of Christianity in society while defending the jihad ideology that justifies the beheading of Christians and raping of Christian women and kidnapping children sold into slavery through the Mid East and Africa.

Are you saying the Nazis were real socialists?

 

[PratchettFan]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

Then the Jihadists will have accomplished their goal.

In a sense you are right -----in fact there is a muslim galvanized movement
afoot------to create THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS thruout the world
based ONLY ON MONOTHEISTIC RELIGIONS (make that
Christianity and islam------kinds like theoretically Indonesia---which
is, in fact, is a shariah shit hole-----but Christianity and Hinduism are
theoretically 'allowed' ----Judaism is---of course "illegal". Hinduism
gets a pass for the sake of convenience. Theocratic government is a
euphemism for the filth of shariah. HOWEVER----I do believe it is
possible to have a national religion without letting GOVERN----like great
Britain-----I am not endorsing the idea.

Britain has a national religion because it has a monarchy. It remains in place as an historical connection to its past and Britain has certainly developed in such a manner that it is not a problem. That is considerably different than creating a national religion within an historically secular state. The only purpose for creating a national religion here is to impose a particular religion on the populace.

I appreciate you are not endorsing the idea, but I don't think Britain is an appropriate comparison for us.

If we create a national religion then the Jihadists will certainly have changed our society. But I do not expect this to occur. It would require a Constitutional amendment and I don't see that happening.

 

[Stephanie]

I just ran across this. how fitting for this ignorant thread

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Watchdog Group Releases Anti-Christian-Bigotry Map
March 2, 2015 - 10:34 AM

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In 2007, and with that same nauseating arrogance that has come to define him, then presidential candidate Barack Obama duplicitously quipped, “I am absolutely convinced that culture wars are just so ’90s. Their days are growing dark.”

Dark, indeed. America’s soon-to-be cultural-Marxist-in-chief would then spend the greater part of a decade waging war against our nation’s Judeo-Christian culture and heritage at levels, and in ways, unseen in our storied history. Today, his anti-Christian crusade continues unabated. In fact, and with less than two years left to complete his baleful conspiracy, this neo-pagan extremist has begun to rapidly accelerate his unravelings.

Chief among his targets for destruction are conservative and Christian organizations and individuals who pose a threat to his envisaged “fundamental transformation” of our once-Judeo-Christian nation. The Obama vision? A godless, Euro-socialist dystopia crafted in his own secular-humanist self-image.

We’re well on our way.

Still, even the president of the United States, alone, cannot destroy an entire nation from within. His sinister (yes, sinister) objective of a Christ-less society (Jesus is the real target here) is shared by many who, like Obama, labor under the darkest of spiritual deceptions.

To accomplish the larger “progressive” dream of unmaking America, this man, this cagey figure of whom we still know very little, finds himself flanked by powerful comrades-in-arms – by hundreds of equally extremist and very well-funded anti-Christian groups.

That’s why I was so encouraged this past week to see one of America’s largest and most effective mainstream Christian organizations fighting back. The Mississippi-based American Family Association (AFA) has [URL='http://www.afa.net/action-alerts/afa-releases-national-map-identifying-anti-christian-groups-in-america/']developed and released a tremendous resource for the fair-minded American public. It’s an interactive “Anti-Christian bigotry map,” which identifies “more than 200 groups and organizations that openly display bigotry toward the Christian faith.”[/URL]
[URL='http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j-matt-barber/watchdog-group-releases-anti-christian-bigotry-map#']
ALL of it here;
[URL='http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j-matt-barber/watchdog-group-releases-anti-christian-bigotry-map']Watchdog Group Releases Anti-Christian-Bigotry Map CNS News[/URL][/URL]

 

[irosie91]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

Then the Jihadists will have accomplished their goal.

In a sense you are right -----in fact there is a muslim galvanized movement
afoot------to create THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS thruout the world
based ONLY ON MONOTHEISTIC RELIGIONS (make that
Christianity and islam------kinds like theoretically Indonesia---which
is, in fact, is a shariah shit hole-----but Christianity and Hinduism are
theoretically 'allowed' ----Judaism is---of course "illegal". Hinduism
gets a pass for the sake of convenience. Theocratic government is a
euphemism for the filth of shariah. HOWEVER----I do believe it is
possible to have a national religion without letting GOVERN----like great
Britain-----I am not endorsing the idea.

Britain has a national religion because it has a monarchy. It remains in place as an historical connection to its past and Britain has certainly developed in such a manner that it is not a problem. That is considerably different than creating a national religion within an historically secular state. The only purpose for creating a national religion here is to impose a particular religion on the populace.

I appreciate you are not endorsing the idea, but I don't think Britain is an appropriate comparison for us.

If we create a national religion then the Jihadists will certainly have changed our society. But I do not expect this to occur. It would require a Constitutional amendment and I don't see that happening.

OK---you made some good points-----but over the past year it has occurred to me
that some OTHER countries might declare "state religions" as a
reaction to problems that they have with their muslim populations.
For example----FRANCE might become a catholic country. France
could do it without IMPOSING Catholicism just as England does not
impose Anglicanism. A few years ago the small island nation MALDIVES---
rendered that country "MUSLIM" and abolished citizenship for
non muslims I remember it well----it was done by virtue of
a "DEMOCRATIC VOTE" (plebiscite) and endorsed by the entire "left" --
--except me. IT WAS LAUDED AS DEMOCRACY -----kinda like the
democracy of Iran. <<<< just being provocative

 

[PratchettFan]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

As opposed to demanding the 10 commandments in the court system? Sharia Law is not in the court system and no one who is being taken at all seriously is demanding that it be.

 

[PratchettFan]

Let's see: people who want to force citizens to buy certain products? Yup
People who want to prevent with criminal penalties citizens from buying other products? Yup.
People who want to impose definitions of who can marry? Yup.
Yup, Progressives are the ISIS of the United States.

That last one is actually from the right. They are the ones who want to impose definitions.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

As opposed to demanding the 10 commandments in the court system? Sharia Law is not in the court system and no one who is being taken at all seriously is demanding that it be.

Who demanded the Commandments be in the court system? There are plenty of cases where Muslims want Sharia Law.

 

[PratchettFan]

I suspect the left favors Islam as the "national religion"

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

Then the Jihadists will have accomplished their goal.

In a sense you are right -----in fact there is a muslim galvanized movement
afoot------to create THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS thruout the world
based ONLY ON MONOTHEISTIC RELIGIONS (make that
Christianity and islam------kinds like theoretically Indonesia---which
is, in fact, is a shariah shit hole-----but Christianity and Hinduism are
theoretically 'allowed' ----Judaism is---of course "illegal". Hinduism
gets a pass for the sake of convenience. Theocratic government is a
euphemism for the filth of shariah. HOWEVER----I do believe it is
possible to have a national religion without letting GOVERN----like great
Britain-----I am not endorsing the idea.

Britain has a national religion because it has a monarchy. It remains in place as an historical connection to its past and Britain has certainly developed in such a manner that it is not a problem. That is considerably different than creating a national religion within an historically secular state. The only purpose for creating a national religion here is to impose a particular religion on the populace.

I appreciate you are not endorsing the idea, but I don't think Britain is an appropriate comparison for us.

If we create a national religion then the Jihadists will certainly have changed our society. But I do not expect this to occur. It would require a Constitutional amendment and I don't see that happening.

OK---you made some good points-----but over the past year it has occurred to me
that some OTHER countries might declare "state religions" as a
reaction to problems that they have with their muslim populations.
For example----FRANCE might become a catholic country. France
could do it without IMPOSING Catholicism just as England does not
impose Anglicanism. A few years ago the small island nation MALDIVES---
rendered that country "MUSLIM" and abolished citizenship for
non muslims I remember it well----it was done by virtue of
a "DEMOCRATIC VOTE" (plebiscite) and endorsed by the entire "left" --
--except me. IT WAS LAUDED AS DEMOCRACY -----kinda like the
democracy of Iran. <<<< just being provocative

Yes. I do see the danger of that. If they do it will be to their detriment. But I'm not French so I don't get a say.

 

[irosie91]

RIGHT vs LEFT---does not work. far right reaches far left ----and "conjugate"

 

[PratchettFan]

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

As opposed to demanding the 10 commandments in the court system? Sharia Law is not in the court system and no one who is being taken at all seriously is demanding that it be.

Who demanded the Commandments be in the court system? There are plenty of cases where Muslims want Sharia Law.

The Chief Justice of the Alabama SC, for one. Plus quite a few Christians want this expanded Does American government need the Ten Commandments anymore ChristianAnswers.Net Name me one case where Muslims have demanded Sharia Law in one of our courts.

 

[irosie91]

since you broached the topic-----perhaps it would be nice to discuss the issue
of NATIONAL RELIGIONS. I have a theory---sorta. I believe that the
JIHAD onslaught on the civilized world might bring about "national
religions"---simply to combat the "JIHAD" thing. ----a kind of reaction to
the countries which limit the right of non muslims.

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

As opposed to demanding the 10 commandments in the court system? Sharia Law is not in the court system and no one who is being taken at all seriously is demanding that it be.

Who demanded the Commandments be in the court system? There are plenty of cases where Muslims want Sharia Law.

can you cite some cases in which muslims wanted shariah law in our
court system? I just don't know. If someone actually did a
CONTRACT that involves shariah law-----signed and sealed and
notarized------it seems to be that it could be enforced under
CONTRACT laws unless the issue included a CRIME.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

<NationalReport>In a surprise weekend vote, the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law. The tough new law, slated to go into effect January 1st, addresses secular law including crime, politics and economics as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, fasting, prayer, diet and hygiene.

The new law could see citizens stoned for adultery or having a limb amputated for theft. Lesser offenses, such as drinking alcohol or abortion, could result in flogging and/or caning. In addition, the law imposes harsh laws with regards to women and allows for child marriage.

City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law National Report

 

[PratchettFan]

I really don't buy into a nation having a national religion. But I also don't buy into coddling the Muslims while they outright denounce Christianity. If they go to a nation they should be prepared to follow that nation's laws, live in harmony and peace and if they can't then go home.

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

As opposed to demanding the 10 commandments in the court system? Sharia Law is not in the court system and no one who is being taken at all seriously is demanding that it be.

Who demanded the Commandments be in the court system? There are plenty of cases where Muslims want Sharia Law.

can you cite some cases in which muslims wanted shariah law in our
court system? I just don't know. If someone actually did a
CONTRACT that involves shariah law-----signed and sealed and
notarized------it seems to be that it could be enforced under
CONTRACT laws unless the issue included a CRIME.

I'm sure there are Sharia courts, just as there are Catholic courts, and Methodist courts, and Jewish courts, etc. Each religion has its own process to police its own. So long as these do not come into conflict with secular law, it is perfectly acceptable. The Mormons can excommunicate someone, they just can't throw them in jail.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So you believe that christians should not be "coddled" if they "outright denounce" Islam?

By coddling I'm talking about things like demanding Sharia Law in the court systems.

As opposed to demanding the 10 commandments in the court system? Sharia Law is not in the court system and no one who is being taken at all seriously is demanding that it be.

Who demanded the Commandments be in the court system? There are plenty of cases where Muslims want Sharia Law.

can you cite some cases in which muslims wanted shariah law in our
court system? I just don't know. If someone actually did a
CONTRACT that involves shariah law-----signed and sealed and
notarized------it seems to be that it could be enforced under
CONTRACT laws unless the issue included a CRIME.

I'm sure there are Sharia courts, just as there are Catholic courts, and Methodist courts, and Jewish courts, etc. Each religion has its own process to police its own. So long as these do not come into conflict with secular law, it is perfectly acceptable. The Mormons can excommunicate someone, they just can't throw them in jail.

You spin a lot

 

[PratchettFan]

<NationalReport>In a surprise weekend vote, the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law. The tough new law, slated to go into effect January 1st, addresses secular law including crime, politics and economics as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, fasting, prayer, diet and hygiene.

The new law could see citizens stoned for adultery or having a limb amputated for theft. Lesser offenses, such as drinking alcohol or abortion, could result in flogging and/or caning. In addition, the law imposes harsh laws with regards to women and allows for child marriage.

City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law National Report

You're kidding, right? You know this is an outright lie, don't you? Please tell me you put this up as a joke.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

<NationalReport>In a surprise weekend vote, the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law. The tough new law, slated to go into effect January 1st, addresses secular law including crime, politics and economics as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, fasting, prayer, diet and hygiene.

The new law could see citizens stoned for adultery or having a limb amputated for theft. Lesser offenses, such as drinking alcohol or abortion, could result in flogging and/or caning. In addition, the law imposes harsh laws with regards to women and allows for child marriage.

City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law National Report

You're kidding, right? You know this is an outright lie, don't you? Please tell me you put this up as a joke.

Prove it's a lie, you're starting to get annoying, annoying tries my patience