holy shit Bfgrn is definately the biggest moron on USMB. conservative means RIGHT of the political spectrum, and the modern liberal is LEFT of th spectrum. classical liberalism is not the same as it is today. Conservative and liberal is based on the alignment of the TOTAL POWER OF GOVERNMENT political spectrum.
the spectrum is:
TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL -----------------------------------------------------NO GOVERNMENT
the USA was foundied at about here ------------------------------------------X----
now we are about here ---------------------------------------X---------------------
Nazi germany: X------------------------------------------------------------
N. Korea: X------------------------------------------------------------
What liberals really want: X-------------------------------------------------------------
More detailed Spectrum: (Totalitarian) (far left)-------(Oligarchy)--------(Democracy)-------(Republic *the USA*)------(Anarachy)(Far Right)
Do the idiots get it now?
Conservative as it comes to economics mean ANYONE CAN SET ANY PRICE ON ANY GOOD OR SERVICE THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE!!!!!
Liberal as it comes to economics mean NO ONE CAN DO SHIT WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT IN THEIR FACE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.
I will take the former ANY DAY.
If not, this will explain it better:
YouTube - ‪The American Form of Government‬‎
Please provide an author for your bullshit video.
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Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.
These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.
1 The Main Arguments of Conservatism
From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.
The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years.
The defenders of aristocracy represent aristocracy as a natural phenomenon, but in reality it is the most artificial thing on earth. Although one of the goals of every aristocracy is to make its preferred social order seem permanent and timeless, in reality conservatism must be reinvented in every generation. This is true for many reasons, including internal conflicts among the aristocrats; institutional shifts due to climate, markets, or warfare; and ideological gains and losses in the perpetual struggle against democracy. In some societies the aristocracy is rigid, closed, and stratified, while in others it is more of an aspiration among various fluid and factionalized groups. The situation in the United States right now is toward the latter end of the spectrum. A main goal in life of all aristocrats, however, is to pass on their positions of privilege to their children, and many of the aspiring aristocrats of the United States are appointing their children to positions in government and in the archipelago of think tanks that promote conservative theories.
Conservatism in every place and time is founded on deception. The deceptions of conservatism today are especially sophisticated, simply because culture today is sufficiently democratic that the myths of earlier times will no longer suffice.
What Is Conservatism and What Is Wrong with It?