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If Trump doesn't sue for libel right away in high profile manner then he wants to lose. No one will hear the retraction, if the Atlantic even issues one.
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It is not just an Atlantic reporter, but the Editor-in-Chief of the Atlantic, one of the oldest and most prestigious magazines in the US. The lie is not just a little lie or a slight mix-up in facts, but a brazen libel and “misinformation” aimed at swaying a presidential election just two weeks away.
Former Trump Chief-of-Staff Mark Meadows has accused Atlantic Editor-in-Chief and author of a recent hit piece on Trump, “I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” of not just twisting Trump’s words, or taking them out of context, but flat-out making them up. The words, had they been uttered, would constitute a grievous affront to every American soldier. The problem is, they weren’t uttered. Meadows, who Goldberg says was in the room, has denied the exchange ever took place.
Now were such words ever to be actually said by an American poitician, Americans would not know if it were true. So racists can say, "Remember The Atlantic in 2024. I never said that." At some point, civic discussion, the alterntive to civil war, depends on semblance of regard for the truth. Not much perhaps. But somewhere, somehow.
Goldberg says Trump said, according to anonymous “people present”:
“‘It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f‑‑‑‑‑‑ Mexican! He later turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: ‘Don’t pay it!’”
Meadows said in a tweet after the article came out that Trump was nothing but gracious and kind in speaking of the family. Likewise, Spc. Guillen’s sister has weighed in, saying that Trump “did nothing but show respect” to her family, that she abhorred Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Goldberg “exploiting” her sister’s death, and that as she wrote, she had just voted for Trump.
The lie is reminiscent of the testimony of former Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson, solicited by Liz Cheney to the J6 committee, in which Hutchingson told the committee that Trump lunged for the steering wheel of his limo on J6. Hutchison said:
“The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm, said, ‘Sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we’re going back to the West Wing we’re not going to the Capitol. “
Later the Secret Service driver of the limo testified under oath that the incident never happened. One might get the impression that truth means nothing to these people, ever eager to call out Trump’s “lies.”
This time, however, the lie has been published in hard copy and distriuted to the Atlantic’s over 1 million subsribers, who will never read a retraction before the election.
The full pertinent passage from the Goldberg article, now buried behind a pay wall, goes as follows:
” At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”
According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.
Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.””
The Mark Meadows in the article who allegedly received the order from Trump “Don’t pay it” says in no uncertain terms that the episode never happened.
Below: Tweet from former Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows denying that Goldberg story attributed to anonymus sources is false
Below: Tweet from sister of US Army Spec. Vanessa Guillen, expressing support for Trump and criticism of article by Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor-n-Chief of The Atlantic
Trump did not promise to pay for Spc. Guillen’s funeral, as it has been misreported by the virulently anti-Trump Misinformation Media, but offered to pay if needed. Goldberg wrote:
“strongly urged that Spc. Vanessa Guillen’s grieving family should not have to bear the cost of any funeral arrangements, even offering to personally pay himself in order to honor her life and sacrifice… President Trump was able to have the Department of Defense designate her death as occurring ‘in the line of duty,’ which gave her full military honors and provided her family access to benefits, services, and complete financial assistance.“
Nevertheless, and the perpetrators of this crime of libel know this full well, anyone google-searching Trump fucking Mexican will come up with a page full of results making it look like it did happen, and might base their vote in the election on this.
The major news networks are not touching it. There is no rash of take-downs of articles or censorship of the “misinformation.” This time, it’s all good. Like the animals on Orwell’s farm, not all misinformation is equal.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Jeff Goldberg has lied and seen nothing wrong with it. Nor have the exalted titans of journalism who take the stage at conferences said anything about this massive lie, even though Goldberg is a colleague and they undoubtedly have interactions with him. On November 13, 2024, Goldberg and The Atlantic will host a conference “The Atlantic Live” in Washington DC, bringing together names in journalism, medicine, and politics – including Nancy Pelosi, to discuss “The Next Frontier for Acessible Medicines.” No one knows if a single word coming out of the conference will be true.
But back to Goldberg’s previous lies. In the run-up to the Iraq War Goldberg made up the story that Saddam Hussein and alleged 9/11 attacker Al Qaeda were close, thus closing the case for the invasion of Iraq. For that lie, over 5,000 American soldiers died in Iraq.
Actual journalist Glenn Greenwald wrote about Goldberg’ ‘s Iraq lies in 2010, in an article which condemned not only Goldberg, but the entire American MMMC (Major Media Misinformation Complex). Greenwald, normally measured in his words, lambasted Goldberg :
“”One of Goldberg’s most obscenely false and damaging articles — this 2002 museum of deceitful, hideous journalism, “reporting” on Saddam’s “possible ties to Al Qaeda” — actually won an Oversea’s Press Award for — get this — “best international reporting in a print medium dealing with human rights.””
But later the New York Post wrote:
A 2004 CIA assessment undercut “the [Bush] White House’s claim that Saddam Hussein maintained ties to al-Qaeda,” as the Knight-Ridder agency reported at the time. There was no “collaborative relationship” between the two villains, the assessment found.
Two years later, a Senate Intelligence Committee report detailed CIA disclosures that further undermined Team Bush claims “that such ties existed,” as The New York Times reported. The 2006 report found that “Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support.”
Over the last four years the Atlantic has been at the forefront of the mockery of “anti-vaxxers” and has told us that the COVID vaccines are safe and effective, and even okay for babies and pregnant women. Just like the rest of the major media. But before trusting someone one must ask what kind of person is this? Do I have any reason not to believe him? If he is lying about at least one big, very important thing, what else could he be lying about?
These are the people who tell us 10 Arabs with box cutters really did fly thousands of miles without being expert navigators, find hundred foot targets, and made them come crashing to the ground in seconds. Including one, Building 7, which was not even hit by a plane and which few people know about.
Glenn Greenwald, as always, sums it up nicely:
“That’s why Goldberg is worth examining: he’s so representative of the American media because the more discredited his journalism becomes, the more blatant propaganda he spews, the more he thrives in our media culture. That’s why it’s not hyperbole to observe that we are plagued by a Jeffrey Goldberg Media; he’s not an aberration but one of its most typical and illustrative members.”
Below: A 2004 exhibit of combat boots belonging to US soldiers killed in the Iraq War in Union Square Park in Manhattan.
Media Icon The Atlantic Exposes Entire US Big Media as Liars, Completely Fabricates Trump “Bury a F*# Mexican” Story, Media Says No Misinformation
It is not just an Atlantic reporter, but the Editor-in-Chief of the Atlantic, one of the oldest and most prestigious magazines in the US. The lie is not just a little lie or a slight mix-up in fact…
coronanews123.wordpress.com
It is not just an Atlantic reporter, but the Editor-in-Chief of the Atlantic, one of the oldest and most prestigious magazines in the US. The lie is not just a little lie or a slight mix-up in facts, but a brazen libel and “misinformation” aimed at swaying a presidential election just two weeks away.
Former Trump Chief-of-Staff Mark Meadows has accused Atlantic Editor-in-Chief and author of a recent hit piece on Trump, “I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” of not just twisting Trump’s words, or taking them out of context, but flat-out making them up. The words, had they been uttered, would constitute a grievous affront to every American soldier. The problem is, they weren’t uttered. Meadows, who Goldberg says was in the room, has denied the exchange ever took place.
Now were such words ever to be actually said by an American poitician, Americans would not know if it were true. So racists can say, "Remember The Atlantic in 2024. I never said that." At some point, civic discussion, the alterntive to civil war, depends on semblance of regard for the truth. Not much perhaps. But somewhere, somehow.
Goldberg says Trump said, according to anonymous “people present”:
“‘It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f‑‑‑‑‑‑ Mexican! He later turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: ‘Don’t pay it!’”
Meadows said in a tweet after the article came out that Trump was nothing but gracious and kind in speaking of the family. Likewise, Spc. Guillen’s sister has weighed in, saying that Trump “did nothing but show respect” to her family, that she abhorred Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Goldberg “exploiting” her sister’s death, and that as she wrote, she had just voted for Trump.
The lie is reminiscent of the testimony of former Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson, solicited by Liz Cheney to the J6 committee, in which Hutchingson told the committee that Trump lunged for the steering wheel of his limo on J6. Hutchison said:
“The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm, said, ‘Sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we’re going back to the West Wing we’re not going to the Capitol. “
Later the Secret Service driver of the limo testified under oath that the incident never happened. One might get the impression that truth means nothing to these people, ever eager to call out Trump’s “lies.”
This time, however, the lie has been published in hard copy and distriuted to the Atlantic’s over 1 million subsribers, who will never read a retraction before the election.
The full pertinent passage from the Goldberg article, now buried behind a pay wall, goes as follows:
” At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”
According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.
Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.””
The Mark Meadows in the article who allegedly received the order from Trump “Don’t pay it” says in no uncertain terms that the episode never happened.
Below: Tweet from former Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows denying that Goldberg story attributed to anonymus sources is false
Below: Tweet from sister of US Army Spec. Vanessa Guillen, expressing support for Trump and criticism of article by Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor-n-Chief of The Atlantic
Trump did not promise to pay for Spc. Guillen’s funeral, as it has been misreported by the virulently anti-Trump Misinformation Media, but offered to pay if needed. Goldberg wrote:
“strongly urged that Spc. Vanessa Guillen’s grieving family should not have to bear the cost of any funeral arrangements, even offering to personally pay himself in order to honor her life and sacrifice… President Trump was able to have the Department of Defense designate her death as occurring ‘in the line of duty,’ which gave her full military honors and provided her family access to benefits, services, and complete financial assistance.“
Nevertheless, and the perpetrators of this crime of libel know this full well, anyone google-searching Trump fucking Mexican will come up with a page full of results making it look like it did happen, and might base their vote in the election on this.
The major news networks are not touching it. There is no rash of take-downs of articles or censorship of the “misinformation.” This time, it’s all good. Like the animals on Orwell’s farm, not all misinformation is equal.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Jeff Goldberg has lied and seen nothing wrong with it. Nor have the exalted titans of journalism who take the stage at conferences said anything about this massive lie, even though Goldberg is a colleague and they undoubtedly have interactions with him. On November 13, 2024, Goldberg and The Atlantic will host a conference “The Atlantic Live” in Washington DC, bringing together names in journalism, medicine, and politics – including Nancy Pelosi, to discuss “The Next Frontier for Acessible Medicines.” No one knows if a single word coming out of the conference will be true.
But back to Goldberg’s previous lies. In the run-up to the Iraq War Goldberg made up the story that Saddam Hussein and alleged 9/11 attacker Al Qaeda were close, thus closing the case for the invasion of Iraq. For that lie, over 5,000 American soldiers died in Iraq.
Actual journalist Glenn Greenwald wrote about Goldberg’ ‘s Iraq lies in 2010, in an article which condemned not only Goldberg, but the entire American MMMC (Major Media Misinformation Complex). Greenwald, normally measured in his words, lambasted Goldberg :
“”One of Goldberg’s most obscenely false and damaging articles — this 2002 museum of deceitful, hideous journalism, “reporting” on Saddam’s “possible ties to Al Qaeda” — actually won an Oversea’s Press Award for — get this — “best international reporting in a print medium dealing with human rights.””
But later the New York Post wrote:
A 2004 CIA assessment undercut “the [Bush] White House’s claim that Saddam Hussein maintained ties to al-Qaeda,” as the Knight-Ridder agency reported at the time. There was no “collaborative relationship” between the two villains, the assessment found.
Two years later, a Senate Intelligence Committee report detailed CIA disclosures that further undermined Team Bush claims “that such ties existed,” as The New York Times reported. The 2006 report found that “Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support.”
Over the last four years the Atlantic has been at the forefront of the mockery of “anti-vaxxers” and has told us that the COVID vaccines are safe and effective, and even okay for babies and pregnant women. Just like the rest of the major media. But before trusting someone one must ask what kind of person is this? Do I have any reason not to believe him? If he is lying about at least one big, very important thing, what else could he be lying about?
These are the people who tell us 10 Arabs with box cutters really did fly thousands of miles without being expert navigators, find hundred foot targets, and made them come crashing to the ground in seconds. Including one, Building 7, which was not even hit by a plane and which few people know about.
Glenn Greenwald, as always, sums it up nicely:
“That’s why Goldberg is worth examining: he’s so representative of the American media because the more discredited his journalism becomes, the more blatant propaganda he spews, the more he thrives in our media culture. That’s why it’s not hyperbole to observe that we are plagued by a Jeffrey Goldberg Media; he’s not an aberration but one of its most typical and illustrative members.”
Below: A 2004 exhibit of combat boots belonging to US soldiers killed in the Iraq War in Union Square Park in Manhattan.
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