The Progressive Movement Is Over

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Hopefully with the re-election of Donald Trump the Progressive movement will be officially dead. The following is a very interesting article from a one time or still Progressive. Some excerpts from it:

I spent pretty much all of the 2010s—my first decade as a writer and pundit—advocating for various progressive causes…I called for expanded immigration, national health insurance, and a bigger welfare state, extolled the benefits of diversity, cheered for a revival of labor unions and stronger antitrust, criticized mass incarceration, dreamed of a phase-out of fracking, and even endorsed reparations for slavery. In the late 2010s, it felt like a long wave of progressive sentiment…had finally reached a critical level of intensity…

A few years later, I’m not so sure. My values haven’t become more conservative—my desire for a more economically egalitarian and socially tolerant society has not diminished an iota…But I have to say that I now doubt the practical effectiveness of some of the policies I embraced in previous years. Others still seem like good ideas, but I’ve been dismayed at their botched implementation where they were tried. And many progressive ideas simply don’t seem like they’ll be able to win majority political support in the near future.

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. Loosening restrictions on illegal immigration was a terrible idea and voters hate it
2. Promoting lax law enforcement and tolerance of social disorder was a terrible idea and voters hate it
3. Insisting that everyone should look at all issues through the lens of identity politics was a terrible idea and voters hate it
4. Telling people fossil fuels are evil and they must stop using them was a terrible idea and voters hate it


 
I would not say it is over. The powers that be have never been more Progressive and powerful than now.

I think the difference is, they are losing support. Will it matter to them, or do they turn the US into Iran and force it down their collective throats anyway?

You know, Iran has elections as well

LOL.
 
What happens if Trump is not elected?
 
Hopefully, the Marxist bs will finally be done for as it is in RUSSIA; where they once exported it here to subvert society to tyranny.
That CRAP didn't work out for them there ultimately, and they ditched it, but we're left with the residue of that very FAILURE.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."........:eusa_whistle:
 
I would not say it is over. The powers that be have never been more Progressive and powerful than now.

I think the difference is, they are losing support. Will it matter to them, or do they turn the US into Iran and force it down their collective throats anyway?

You know, Iran has elections as well

LOL.
As does Russia, Venezuela, and a few other places.
 
Hopefully with the re-election of Donald Trump the Progressive movement will be officially dead. The following is a very interesting article from a one time or still Progressive. Some excerpts from it:

I spent pretty much all of the 2010s—my first decade as a writer and pundit—advocating for various progressive causes…I called for expanded immigration, national health insurance, and a bigger welfare state, extolled the benefits of diversity, cheered for a revival of labor unions and stronger antitrust, criticized mass incarceration, dreamed of a phase-out of fracking, and even endorsed reparations for slavery. In the late 2010s, it felt like a long wave of progressive sentiment…had finally reached a critical level of intensity…

A few years later, I’m not so sure. My values haven’t become more conservative—my desire for a more economically egalitarian and socially tolerant society has not diminished an iota…But I have to say that I now doubt the practical effectiveness of some of the policies I embraced in previous years. Others still seem like good ideas, but I’ve been dismayed at their botched implementation where they were tried. And many progressive ideas simply don’t seem like they’ll be able to win majority political support in the near future.

1
. Loosening restrictions on illegal immigration was a terrible idea and voters hate it
2. Promoting lax law enforcement and tolerance of social disorder was a terrible idea and voters hate it
3. Insisting that everyone should look at all issues through the lens of identity politics was a terrible idea and voters hate it
4. Telling people fossil fuels are evil and they must stop using them was a terrible idea and voters hate it


they will scurry back into the shadows and regroup for the next attack,,

they work slowly with baby steps so never let your guard down,,
 
"Progressive" is just another term that was invented to replace "socialist." Now that it has worn out its usefulness, a new label will be invented to mask its true meaning. Any suggestions?
 
"Progressive" is just another term that was invented to replace "socialist." Now that it has worn out its usefulness, a new label will be invented to mask its true meaning. Any suggestions?

Neither of these programs are as new as penicillin or color television, although they may seem so to inexperienced people unacquainted with the American politics of the past 75 years. The history of the traditional “Left” since the 1870’s has been marked by oscillations between the alternatives of reforming the Democratic Party (and even, on occasion, the Republican) or challenging the “Gold-Dust Twins” with a “Progressive” third party coalition on an anti-monopolist but not anti-capitalist program. Both confined themselves to the aim of reforming capitalism, not replacing it with a workers’ government and a publicly owned economy.

The CP leaders promise that the conditions are ripe this time for the realizations of big gains for the working people and the Negroes through pressure-politicking within the Democratic machine. Before leaping back into the party of the plutocrats and the Dixiecrats, it might be helpful to appraise the results of previous efforts along this line by reviewing the state of the nation today.

The Progressives demanded greater equality, wider opportunities, peace, the extension of democracy, the sharing and spreading of wealth—all within the boundaries of capitalism. They received in increasing measure more inequality, fewer opportunities for fewer people, wars, the growing concentration of wealth and political autocracy along with it. These were the natural fruits of monopolist rule launched upon its imperialist phase.

What do others think on USMB about the progressive left movement?

The Progressives are crazy or peace?
 
"Progressive" is just another term that was invented to replace "socialist." Now that it has worn out its usefulness, a new label will be invented to mask its true meaning. Any suggestions?
If that is true, then conservative is just another term invented to replace fascist.
 
Neither of these programs are as new as penicillin or color television, although they may seem so to inexperienced people unacquainted with the American politics of the past 75 years. The history of the traditional “Left” since the 1870’s has been marked by oscillations between the alternatives of reforming the Democratic Party (and even, on occasion, the Republican) or challenging the “Gold-Dust Twins” with a “Progressive” third party coalition on an anti-monopolist but not anti-capitalist program. Both confined themselves to the aim of reforming capitalism, not replacing it with a workers’ government and a publicly owned economy.

The CP leaders promise that the conditions are ripe this time for the realizations of big gains for the working people and the Negroes through pressure-politicking within the Democratic machine. Before leaping back into the party of the plutocrats and the Dixiecrats, it might be helpful to appraise the results of previous efforts along this line by reviewing the state of the nation today.

The Progressives demanded greater equality, wider opportunities, peace, the extension of democracy, the sharing and spreading of wealth—all within the boundaries of capitalism. They received in increasing measure more inequality, fewer opportunities for fewer people, wars, the growing concentration of wealth and political autocracy along with it. These were the natural fruits of monopolist rule launched upon its imperialist phase.

What do others think on USMB about the progressive left movement?

The Progressives are crazy or peace?
The progressive movement is nowhere near over. But the end of MAGA is near. MAGA is crazy.
 
The progressive movement is nowhere near over. But the end of MAGA is near. MAGA is crazy.

The progressives is ongoing in USA yet. But the progressives lose last election.

Capitalism trust are bigger in USA than France and Spain to say a few capitalist states.
 
The progressives is ongoing in USA yet. But the progressives lose last election.

Capitalism trust are bigger in USA than France and Spain to say a few capitalist states.
The last election was a couple of Tuesdays ago and progressives did not lose. Every time conservatives win something, they declare the end of either liberals, democrats, or progressives. But in this century, conservatives have a losing record. Conservatives have lost every special election or otherwise since last November.
 
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