Meanwhile, Republicans hard at work trying to steal the election

[eddiew37]

Democrats really dont seem to respect their voter base.

No, but apparently they know and understand the class of people they are dealing with!

Finally You have one right freaky We know we're dealing with the lowest class of Americans as possible

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Yes, the rabid heathens deny it all.....yet every hour there is new evidence......

Texas Democrat, wife charged in mail-in ballot scheme in election he won


Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announces 134 felony voter fraud charges in connection with 2018 Democrat primary
The allegations include election fraud and mail-in ballot fraud

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announces 134 felony voter fraud charges in connection with 2018 Dem primary


“It is an unfortunate reality that elections can be stolen outright by mail ballot fraud,” Paxton said in a statement. “Election fraud, particularly an organized mail ballot fraud scheme orchestrated by political operatives, is an affront to democracy and results in voter disenfranchisement and corruption at the highest level.”

Gregg County Commissioner Shannon Brown (DEMOCRAT), Marlena Jackson (DEMOCRAT), Charlie Burns (DEMOCRAT) and DeWayne Ward (DEMOCRAT) face 134 felony charges in total, according to Paxton’s office. The allegations include election fraud, tampering with a governmental record, mail-in ballot fraud and more.

Don't forget the insanity of the OP....
"Meanwhile, Republicans hard at work trying to steal the election"

 

[eddiew37]

Yes, the rabid heathens deny it all.....yet every hour there is new evidence......

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announces 134 felony voter fraud charges in connection with 2018 Democrat primary
The allegations include election fraud and mail-in ballot fraud

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announces 134 felony voter fraud charges in connection with 2018 Dem primary


“It is an unfortunate reality that elections can be stolen outright by mail ballot fraud,” Paxton said in a statement. “Election fraud, particularly an organized mail ballot fraud scheme orchestrated by political operatives, is an affront to democracy and results in voter disenfranchisement and corruption at the highest level.”

Gregg County Commissioner Shannon Brown (DEMOCRAT), Marlena Jackson (DEMOCRAT), Charlie Burns (DEMOCRAT) and DeWayne Ward (DEMOCRAT) face 134 felony charges in total, according to Paxton’s office. The allegations include election fraud, tampering with a governmental record, mail-in ballot fraud and more.

Let us know when some one is proven guilty and just in passing how many votes were there??

 

[Oddball]

vbg

If it were not for the USMB rules prohibiting 'hijacking' threads by going off of main topic focus I would gladly list all of Hillary's, Obama's, & the DNC's cheating, crimes, coup attempts, and now their Mail-In voting scam, all due to their lack of ability of winning a fair and honest election (or a fixed election), but we all already know them by heart anyway.

I WILL, however, ask WHY Democrats have insisted the US allow Mail-In ballots to begin with, considering how almost every other nation has outlawed them for the very exact reasons we are seeing over and over here in the US now...and especially after Biden has already demonstrated voting in person is not difficult or a threat.

Considering all the fraud and problems we are having now, if Joe Biden loses in November WITH Mail-In voting being used, will Democrats scrap it for next election or try to perfect it?

It's not just Democrats you know. Republican states are wanting to expand on this as well AND there are Republican states that have been doing it for some time (like Utah). And pro's/con's aside - voting access and covid are a real issue. If you are expanding mail in voting - then, AT THE VERY LEAST - proposing to cut down the time votes can be counted by SHORTENING the amount of time prior to the election seems kind of odd doesn't it?

I think states run by BOTH Democrats and Republicans will transition to more and more mail in voting after this election - hopefully better planned, following the examples of states that have already implemented it.

But where you see Democrats trying to promote fraud - I see Republicans trying to repress voting.

If you want to hear what is odd, it's that democrats are changing the system and sending ballots to everyone - enabling massive fraud.

That's the only thing that odd. Finding a way to deal with the farce - there is nothing odd about that. We should start by placing the people behind it in prison for treason.

Hyperbole much? No one is sending ballots to everyone. Out of 50 states, only 9 plus Washington, DC, are sending ballots to registered voters automatically. Of those, one state is Republican, and 5 have been doing it for years.

Look who learned a new word and spread it around today: 'Hyperbole' - snowflake word of the day.

LOL

Like we needed more evidence of how badly the moobats project.

 

[Coyote]

Yes, the rabid heathens deny it all.....yet every hour there is new evidence......

Texas Democrat, wife charged in mail-in ballot scheme in election he won


Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announces 134 felony voter fraud charges in connection with 2018 Democrat primary
The allegations include election fraud and mail-in ballot fraud

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announces 134 felony voter fraud charges in connection with 2018 Dem primary


“It is an unfortunate reality that elections can be stolen outright by mail ballot fraud,” Paxton said in a statement. “Election fraud, particularly an organized mail ballot fraud scheme orchestrated by political operatives, is an affront to democracy and results in voter disenfranchisement and corruption at the highest level.”

Gregg County Commissioner Shannon Brown (DEMOCRAT), Marlena Jackson (DEMOCRAT), Charlie Burns (DEMOCRAT) and DeWayne Ward (DEMOCRAT) face 134 felony charges in total, according to Paxton’s office. The allegations include election fraud, tampering with a governmental record, mail-in ballot fraud and more.

Don't forget the insanity of the OP....
"Meanwhile, Republicans hard at work trying to steal the election"

Selective memory on your part?

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

Leslie McCrae Dowless is accused of leading a scheme to illegally collect, sign and mail in absentee ballots. An investigation into allegations of fraud overturned a 2018 congressional race.

www.npr.org

 

[badbob85037]

It’s good that there is a lot of political noise out there...SCOTUS, Trumps insistence there won’t be a peaceful transition of power unless he wins, constantly changing COVID rules, a rehash of Burisma from a nothing burger report, attempts to dismantle the post office right before a national election....it obscures what is going on.

Sen. Rick Scott thinks we should have less than 48 hours to count ballots.

On Thursday, Florida Sen. Rick Scott proposed a bill that would change election laws with less than six weeks to go until November’s election, causing complete mayhem and ensuring that untold numbers of otherwise valid votes would not be counted. Scott’s proposal is simple and entirely unworkable. His Help America Vote Act of 2020 would require that mail-in ballots be counted within 24 hours of when voting closes on Election Day. Scott’s proposed legislation would also prevent mail-in ballots received prior to Election Day from being processed and counted until the morning of Nov. 3, contradicting state election statutes across the country including one that he signed when he was governor of Florida. Basically, the bill would move back the date by which votes can start to be counted and move up the date by which the count must end. This would limit the count to a single less-than-48-hour window, shortening the count in some cases by weeks. In Scott’s own home state of Florida, as one example, votes can start to be counted up to 22 days before Election Day. In Colorado, which does all mail-in voting, they can be processed as soon as they are received and counted 15 days before Election Day. Under Scott’s law, those votes would all have to begin to be counted on Election Day itself. Any votes that did not get counted simply would not count.

Mail in ballots is the best way to commit fraud. Just ask any democrat. Do you ever ask yourself how come when a bunch of ballots are found stuck in a voting machine or a couple hundred fall out of some guy's short they all turn out to be democRat votes

 

[Coyote]

It’s good that there is a lot of political noise out there...SCOTUS, Trumps insistence there won’t be a peaceful transition of power unless he wins, constantly changing COVID rules, a rehash of Burisma from a nothing burger report, attempts to dismantle the post office right before a national election....it obscures what is going on.

Sen. Rick Scott thinks we should have less than 48 hours to count ballots.

On Thursday, Florida Sen. Rick Scott proposed a bill that would change election laws with less than six weeks to go until November’s election, causing complete mayhem and ensuring that untold numbers of otherwise valid votes would not be counted. Scott’s proposal is simple and entirely unworkable. His Help America Vote Act of 2020 would require that mail-in ballots be counted within 24 hours of when voting closes on Election Day. Scott’s proposed legislation would also prevent mail-in ballots received prior to Election Day from being processed and counted until the morning of Nov. 3, contradicting state election statutes across the country including one that he signed when he was governor of Florida. Basically, the bill would move back the date by which votes can start to be counted and move up the date by which the count must end. This would limit the count to a single less-than-48-hour window, shortening the count in some cases by weeks. In Scott’s own home state of Florida, as one example, votes can start to be counted up to 22 days before Election Day. In Colorado, which does all mail-in voting, they can be processed as soon as they are received and counted 15 days before Election Day. Under Scott’s law, those votes would all have to begin to be counted on Election Day itself. Any votes that did not get counted simply would not count.

Mail in ballots is the best way to commit fraud. Just ask any democrat. Do you ever ask yourself how come when a bunch of ballots are found stuck in a voting machine or a couple hundred fall out of some guy's short they all turn out to be democRat votes

Nope. Never asked myself that. Why would I? It's a lie.

 

[Coyote]

Coyote is retarded enough to believe that having the election like we have always had it is "stealing an election":

Coyote is not retarded.

She is just a Democrat.

Rhetorically defending that party is a lot of work, trust me.

I'm not a Democrat.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Democrats really dont seem to respect their voter base.

No, but apparently they know and understand the class of people they are dealing with!

Finally You have one right freaky We know we're dealing with the lowest class of Americans as possible

We get it.......disagreeing...or thinking different from you makes one part of the "lowest class". Too funny.

 

[eddiew37]

Democrats really dont seem to respect their voter base.

No, but apparently they know and understand the class of people they are dealing with!

Finally You have one right freaky We know we're dealing with the lowest class of Americans as possible

We get it.......disagreeing...or thinking different from you makes one part of the "lowest class". Too funny.

NO not disagreeing with me guy.. You could be the smartest guy on the board I just find ANYONE supporting this pos in our wh to not thinking correctly

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Why SHORTEN it?

The problems aren’t because Trump is in office but because Covid has messed everything up.

So why shorten it?

Shorten it from what? [just looking for a number, not an alibi]

 

[White 6]

,.l

How much time are you willing to give them to count the ballots? A week? Two Weeks? A month?
Past elections have been counted quickly, now that Trump is in office, the democrats are trying to cause
chaos IMO to muck up the election.
They have done nothing overall for this country other than try and bring down a duly elected president.

They counted for weeks in 2000. Never had as many mail in ballots as are expected this year. Have heard not many states have had to deal with massive mail in voting. It will take longer, but I have no idea how long it takes to count possibly millions of mail in paper ballots. Do you?

To combat this Leftist ploy, I do hope Republican states have mailed out millions of ballots in rural areas etc.
The Right must learn to play dirty like the left.

They already have. States, like Utah, with large rural areas, have done mail in voting for decades. They are pretty Republican...in case you didn’t notice.

That's absentee voting where you ask for the ballot, not sending out millions of unsolicited ballots to anyone and everyone.

Could you at least try to bring an intellectually honest argument to the table?

I don’t think you are capable of understanding what an “intellectually honest argument” is, based on the above.

Voting by mail has a long history of reliability in the United States, serving as the primary method of voting in Colorado, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Hawaii, which automatically send registered voters mail-in ballots.

States that vote by mail spent years cleaning up their rolls before enacting mail in only voting. You cannot vote by mail in many states because the voter registration lists are bloated with dead people and people no longer living there. In some states, illegals are on the rolls.

Do you have anything to support that?

Also, there are plenty of possible safeguards:

What security measures can be taken to protect against vote-by-mail fraud?
There are many. The ballot envelope itself can be designed to prevent fraud. Voters have to sign the envelope, and that signature can be compared to the one that’s already on file for the voter. It’s important to note, though, that there are best and worst practices with signature matching. When done incorrectly, it can disenfranchise eligible voters. Done correctly — which includes a review by a bipartisan group of election officials — it can be an effective deterrent for fraud.

States can also track ballots in transit. Much like a FedEx package, the ballot comes with a barcode that allows election officials and voters to track where the ballot is throughout the process. Most people who vote this way, however, do not send in ballots by mail. Instead, they drop them off at secure government offices or other locations. According to MIT’s election lab, in 2016:

73% of voters in Colorado, 59% in Oregon and 65% in Washington returned their ballots to some physical location such as a drop box or local election office. Even among those who returned their ballots by mail in these states, 47% dropped off their ballot at a U.S. Post Office or neighborhood mailbox rather than having their own postal worker pick it up at home.

These drop boxes can be made more secure with cameras or other security measures.

Finally, post-election audits can identify any irregularities that may remain. In 2018, a congressional election in North Carolina was marred by absentee ballot misconduct by a Republican political operative, requiring a revote. That misconduct was caught by a state post-election investigation.

For GODS SAKES coyote -- the article is about what COULD BE done.. AGAIN -- does not APPLY to MASS MAILINGS.. In fact, the post office often doesn't even put a TIME STAMP on the LOCAL MAIL... No timestamp -- no way of DETERMINING when the ballot was mailed out or when it came back...

Stop googling please...

NO! It is no different than how you get information!

AND YES, some of those measures DO APPLY.

There is very little difference between absentee and mail other than how you get the ballot. someone could just as “easily” call in or go online and fraudulently get an absentee ballot.

Whether absentee or universal mail in, ballots are only sent to the official address listed on voter registration rolls. The ballots also require voter signatures on the external envelope. Those signatures are compared the same way my signature at the polling place is compared to the one in their books.

Depending on the state, if a ballot appears questionable, they might use signature matching to verify that the signature is the signature of the voter.

If it is soooo much fraudulent then voting at the polls, I would think Colorado and Utah would lead in fraud...but in fact, it is quite the opposite.

Drive up voting would be cheaper and easier to implement with much less prep and much less error.

Our schools (voting stations) are fully up BTW.

Did any states implement that? I agree - if they can do drive up Covid testing they could do this...

Why didn't republicans act as quickly to get covid testing as they are to fill SC seat?

Because we realize it's a Democrat hoax to cripple the nation and empower Leftist Dictators

Donnie has let the cat out of the bag. He only treated like a hoax to fool dumb asses, when he knew all along. How does it feel to be played like a cheap kazoo?

 

[Coyote]

Why SHORTEN it?

The problems aren’t because Trump is in office but because Covid has messed everything up.

So why shorten it?

Shorten it from what? [just looking for a number, not an alibi]

It's in the OP....

 

[toobfreak]

Democrats really dont seem to respect their voter base.

No, but apparently they know and understand the class of people they are dealing with!

Finally You have one right freaky We know we're dealing with the lowest class of Americans as possible

You DO understand we are talking about the DEMOCRATS!

 

[JustAGuy1]

Democrats really dont seem to respect their voter base.

No, but apparently they know and understand the class of people they are dealing with!

Finally You have one right freaky We know we're dealing with the lowest class of Americans as possible

We get it.......disagreeing...or thinking different from you makes one part of the "lowest class". Too funny.

NO not disagreeing with me guy.. You could be the smartest guy on the board I just find ANYONE supporting this pos in our wh to not thinking correctly

You need to understand the "choices" that the binary system foists upon the people. 2016, NODY to the "Right" of center could vote for that nasty, twisted bitch. 2020, it isn't Rump v Biden, his brain is done. It is Rump v Harris who just MAY compete with Hillary's disgusting persona. I can't even listen that condescending piece of shit's voice let alone her laugh. Gabbard would have beaten Rump, she just wasn't fringe enough for you.

 

[flacaltenn]

They introduced a bill that states election officials must notify any voter whose signature was considered deficient and give them an opportunity to fix it.

This was easy to do in NATIONAL elections with ABSENTEE ballots. It's a fucking nightmare when 30% of the votes are by mail.. Would take LONGER to personally service all these verifications than America has TIME (legally) to do.. What's gonna happen is ballots WILL BE wasted... Because we NEED national elections to have a DATE CERTAIN for verification..

Poor planning. Poor execution. Poor design.. FOISTED on everyone by partisan hacks...

 

[toobfreak]

Gabbard would have beaten Rump, she just wasn't fringe enough for you.

Very poignant! Aside from the reptilian repulsiveness of Harris, you may be right that the Democrats would rather LOSE with Biden than WIN with Tulsi!

 

[Coyote]

They introduced a bill that states election officials must notify any voter whose signature was considered deficient and give them an opportunity to fix it.

This was easy to do in NATIONAL elections with ABSENTEE ballots. It's a fucking nightmare when 30% of the votes are by mail.. Would take LONGER to personally service all these verifications than America has TIME (legally) to do.. What's gonna happen is ballots WILL BE wasted... Because we NEED national elections to have a DATE CERTAIN for verification..

Poor planning. Poor execution. Poor design.. FOISTED on everyone by partisan hacks...

I see your point but, why do you say "partisan hacks" when you have governors BOTH parties doing this? Maybe they are concerned about people being able to vote, period.

 

[toobfreak]

Poor planning. Poor execution. Poor design.. FOISTED on everyone by partisan hacks...

Put another way, Flacc, American Politics As Usual.

 

[flacaltenn]

I am not going to follow along simply because you demand it. All forms of electing have a certain potential for fraud or mistakes, including voting at tbe polls. Do you have any actual data showing a greater amount of fraud or screw ups in the states with universal mail in voting vs. those tHat do not have it?

Because you're STLL not clear on the diff between Absentee mail in and MASS mail outs and ins -- your googling serves no purpose and YES there's even a RECENT THIS YEAR record of monumental screw-ups -- even CRIMES involving mass mailing of ballots.

Can't pull YOU out the swamp when you're still not recognizing the MASSIVE diff between the 2 things.

DID YA SEE THE PIC of ballots recovered from a Wisc DITCH that I just posted? That's just chicken feed compared to the cluster fuck about to happen..

I just read an article Where your state stands on mail-in voting. It speaks of states sending out applications for mail in voting to every registered voter in the state. An application is not a ballot. I could find no state that is doing what people on here say is being done. What state is sending out unrequested ballots. Name it, so I can check it or it is BS.
Here's where your state stands on mail-in voting

Here’s where your state stands on mail-in voting

As the coronavirus pandemic continues to grip the country, more states have embraced mail-in voting as a way to prevent large crowds from gathering at polling places. The Centers for Disease C…

thehill.com

Not gonna find ANY ACCURATE DATA THERE chief... Your article is from BEGINNING JUNE.. Most of these state wide decisions were made or not approved til maybe 1st August..

I'll fetch for you tomorrow.. Or you can find a better source...

OK. Found a newer source. Looks like the 5 All Mail-In Voters states, very few plus this year California (this year, ought to be interesting) New Jersey (they are interesting no matter who is in the state house) and District of Columbia (surely trump has enough secret police to watch DC) sent out ballots addressed to last known mailing address of all registered voters.
Other than that, every other state requires that you apply online or in person to have a ballot sent to you and many do not allow just anybody to apply, some requiring a valid reason.
Voting By Mail? Double-Check Your State’s Deadlines Right Now

You missed a bunch.. Even Snopes screwed it up for Michigan by answering "must request ballot" with a YES -- but then explaining they are all being massed mailed out because of Covid..

So California, N.Jersey, DC, Colorado Hawaii Utah Washington state Oregon Michigan.. Total of NINE FOUND. Michigan, maybe Utah matter.. The rest are "NO SURPRISE" deep blue states working their way to ONE PARTY status...

EVEN IN the states where you REQUEST a ballot -- vote by mail -- is gonna be a nightmare if the volume is even 4 to 10 times larger than previous national elections. And nowhere NEAR as protected and secure.

We've extended voting out to RIDICULOUS lengths of time with Early Voting.. Votes ALREADY CAST before the first Prez debate. We're screwing up the INTEGRITY of the entire process here.

In the primaries, votes for Super "Thursday" (Biden style) were cast BEFORE 2 or 3 key candidates DROPPED OUT.. This is absurd to any RATIONAL person that "WANTS EVERY VOTE TO COUNT".. It's voter disenfranchisement to ALLOW voting that early...