McMullin the principled GOP rebuke to Trump

[JakeStarkey]

McMullin is classy, a stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

 

[Statistikhengst]

I am gonna go out on a limb and present another scenario as to what may happen: the Clinton campaign, knowing that it cannot win Utah, through a totally legal whisper campaign, could convince it's loyal Democratic voters to simply go to the polls and decide to vote for Evan McMullin instead. With Gary Johnson still at between 7-8%, if the Clinton (D) voters do this, then Trump will indeed be robbed of those 6 EV. But the effect is wider than you think. In neighboring Idaho, in ID-02, which has a substantial Mormon population, for the first time EVER in polling by CD from that state, I and mean, EVER, Clinton is ahead of Trump in ID-02, narrowly (Emerson poll, landlines only, heavy mathematical conservative bias). Trump is going to easily win Idaho, but not be the customary +36 to +40 for an Elephant, more like +22 to +25, a sure sign of an impending national landslide defeat.

I, as a statistics guy, were I working on her team, would encourage Hillary to do just what I suggest as a possible scenario. And I want to remind: it is totally legal. Hillary could live with only getting 4% of the vote in Utah, she is already way above Obama's statistic in California and may even hit +30 (Obama won with +23 in '12), which will easily translate to about +4 million raw votes in margin. So, losing Utah with the lowet losing % a Democrat ever experienced is not going to hurt her at all: but it WILL hurt Trump.

 

[Onyx]

I saw a Mcmullin interview on CNBC.

He is very articulate and voiced some great criticisms on Clinton and especially Trump.

 

[TNHarley]

"very unlikely" Lol he is on like, what, 15 ballots or so?
He is a plant to actual undermine a democratic election. Irony

 

[JakeStarkey]

"very unlikely" Lol he is on like, what, 15 ballots or so?
He is a plant to actual undermine a democratic election. Irony

TN, quit babbling.

 

[tinydancer]

By electing McMullen in Utah and siphoning off votes from Trump you Never Trumpers you will get your wish and elect Clinton.

You will own taxpayer funded abortion up till the moment of birth. You will pay for it. And never forget Hillary has no problem with partial birth. You will own it.

You will own the next liberal Supreme Court justices and put the 1st and the 2nd in jeaopardy.

You will own the flooding of millions of ME migrants. I bet you just can't wait to be Germany paying for a man with four wives and 22 children on the dole. Rampant rape. Rampant crime. Europe is being systematically destroyed by Merkel's policies. It's not fiction. It's real.

You will own putting two of the most corrupt individuals who have ever been in American politics, the enabler wife and the sexual predator husband and serial adulterer back in the White House.



So Never trumpers. You will own everything Hillary has promised she will do.

I understand the Utah Compact Jake. Most people don't truly understand what this is all about for the Mormon community. Since summer and the garden wrapped up I have studied LDS.

I understand you want an easy flow with your colonies in Mexico. I'm certain that there is a segment who wish to have polygamy reinstated as a legal right to multiple marriages.

Goody for you. You try to make it seem that your disdain for Trump is all "holier than thou" but that's just for show. It's all about the Utah Compact. All about your own community and it has nothing to do really with Trump.

You really do stand apart from every other religious sect. The Amish are coming out in a solid voting block for Trump as are the Hindus. You have your own agenda and to hell with the rest of America.

Clinton will give you what you want. And the rest of America be damned.

 

[Avatar4321]

Joining team mcmullin Jake? Welcome aboard.

Hillary doesn't benefit from mcmullin winning Utah. It doesn't get her to 270. Best it does is denies trump victory and sends the race to the house. She can't win a GOP controlled house.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Joining team mcmullin Jake? Welcome aboard.

Hillary doesn't benefit from mcmullin winning Utah. It doesn't get her to 270. Best it does is denies trump victory and sends the race to the house. She can't win a GOP controlled house.

I agree. But she does not need Utah. To think the GOP could have had an easy victory (should have had an easy victory), then let the Far and Alt Right crazies deny that opportunity is beyond me.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

He's a very decent man.. no doubt. Unfortunately he's a AGW nutter, supports free trade, NAFTA, TPP, ACA, etc., etc., etc. There he loses true conservatives and is why you embrace him.

 

[JakeStarkey]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

He's a very decent man.. no doubt. Unfortunately he's a AGW nutter, supports free trade, NAFTA, TPP, ACA, etc., etc., etc. There he loses true conservatives and is why you embrace him.

I embrace because he is an honest, decent who honors American values, unlike you.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

He's a very decent man.. no doubt. Unfortunately he's a AGW nutter, supports free trade, NAFTA, TPP, ACA, etc., etc., etc. There he loses true conservatives and is why you embrace him.

I embrace because he is an honest, decent who honors American values, unlike you.

I don't embrace people just because they are honest and decent. He embraces policies that are detrimental to our country.

 

[L.K.Eder]

"very unlikely" Lol he is on like, what, 15 ballots or so?
He is a plant to actual undermine a democratic election. Irony

he is undermining a democratic election, by participating in a democratic election as a candidate? makes sense, i guess.

 

[JakeStarkey]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

He's a very decent man.. no doubt. Unfortunately he's a AGW nutter, supports free trade, NAFTA, TPP, ACA, etc., etc., etc. There he loses true conservatives and is why you embrace him.

I embrace because he is an honest, decent who honors American values, unlike you.

I don't embrace people just because they are honest and decent. He embraces policies that are detrimental to our country.

Only in your head.

 

[kaz]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

I hope you hate the guy, Jake. Your endorsement is the kiss of death

 

[kaz]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

He's a very decent man.. no doubt. Unfortunately he's a AGW nutter, supports free trade, NAFTA, TPP, ACA, etc., etc., etc. There he loses true conservatives and is why you embrace him.

I embrace because he is an honest, decent who honors American values, unlike you.

I don't embrace people just because they are honest and decent. He embraces policies that are detrimental to our country.

Sounds like someone Jake would endorse!

 

[kaz]

McMullin is classy, stand up guy, independent, conservative traditionally, and an absolute rebuke to Trump's shoddiness and shallowness.

"Salt Lake City, Utah--Former spy Evan McMullin is on the brink of doing what no presidential candidate has done for more than half a century – deprive the Republican nominee of winning the state of Utah. He is very unlikely to become president but his spirited stand as an independent representing traditional conservative values is a powerful rebuke to Donald Trump. It could also be the first step in a realignment on the right after a Republican takeover by the populist billionaire.
McMullin Shows Trump Is Too Wild for the West | RealClearPolitics

He's a very decent man.. no doubt. Unfortunately he's a AGW nutter, supports free trade, NAFTA, TPP, ACA, etc., etc., etc. There he loses true conservatives and is why you embrace him.

I embrace because he is an honest, decent who honors American values, unlike you.

So he's a socialist, huh

 

[TNHarley]

"very unlikely" Lol he is on like, what, 15 ballots or so?
He is a plant to actual undermine a democratic election. Irony

he is undermining a democratic election, by participating in a democratic election as a candidate? makes sense, i guess.

Lol yeah I know. I am hyped on coffee and got a little overboard about when he said he was only doing this so the republican couldn't win.

 

[Avatar4321]

By electing McMullen in Utah and siphoning off votes from Trump you Never Trumpers you will get your wish and elect Clinton.

You will own taxpayer funded abortion up till the moment of birth. You will pay for it. And never forget Hillary has no problem with partial birth. You will own it.

You will own the next liberal Supreme Court justices and put the 1st and the 2nd in jeaopardy.

You will own the flooding of millions of ME migrants. I bet you just can't wait to be Germany paying for a man with four wives and 22 children on the dole. Rampant rape. Rampant crime. Europe is being systematically destroyed by Merkel's policies. It's not fiction. It's real.

You will own putting two of the most corrupt individuals who have ever been in American politics, the enabler wife and the sexual predator husband and serial adulterer back in the White House.



So Never trumpers. You will own everything Hillary has promised she will do.

I understand the Utah Compact Jake. Most people don't truly understand what this is all about for the Mormon community. Since summer and the garden wrapped up I have studied LDS.

I understand you want an easy flow with your colonies in Mexico. I'm certain that there is a segment who wish to have polygamy reinstated as a legal right to multiple marriages.

Goody for you. You try to make it seem that your disdain for Trump is all "holier than thou" but that's just for show. It's all about the Utah Compact. All about your own community and it has nothing to do really with Trump.

You really do stand apart from every other religious sect. The Amish are coming out in a solid voting block for Trump as are the Hindus. You have your own agenda and to hell with the rest of America.

Clinton will give you what you want. And the rest of America be damned.

If you wanted to defeat Hillary Clinton, you would have nominated anyone but trump since he was the only candidate who she could beat. You sold out the court when you nominated trump since he is never going to give us the judges we want.

Mcmullin winning Utah or any other state does not benefit Hillary.

Besides which, I thought trump was winning with a landslide

 

[TNHarley]

By electing McMullen in Utah and siphoning off votes from Trump you Never Trumpers you will get your wish and elect Clinton.

You will own taxpayer funded abortion up till the moment of birth. You will pay for it. And never forget Hillary has no problem with partial birth. You will own it.

You will own the next liberal Supreme Court justices and put the 1st and the 2nd in jeaopardy.

You will own the flooding of millions of ME migrants. I bet you just can't wait to be Germany paying for a man with four wives and 22 children on the dole. Rampant rape. Rampant crime. Europe is being systematically destroyed by Merkel's policies. It's not fiction. It's real.

You will own putting two of the most corrupt individuals who have ever been in American politics, the enabler wife and the sexual predator husband and serial adulterer back in the White House.



So Never trumpers. You will own everything Hillary has promised she will do.

I understand the Utah Compact Jake. Most people don't truly understand what this is all about for the Mormon community. Since summer and the garden wrapped up I have studied LDS.

I understand you want an easy flow with your colonies in Mexico. I'm certain that there is a segment who wish to have polygamy reinstated as a legal right to multiple marriages.

Goody for you. You try to make it seem that your disdain for Trump is all "holier than thou" but that's just for show. It's all about the Utah Compact. All about your own community and it has nothing to do really with Trump.

You really do stand apart from every other religious sect. The Amish are coming out in a solid voting block for Trump as are the Hindus. You have your own agenda and to hell with the rest of America.

Clinton will give you what you want. And the rest of America be damned.

If you wanted to defeat Hillary Clinton, you would have nominated anyone but trump since he was the only candidate who she could beat. You sold out the court when you nominated trump since he is never going to give us the judges we want.

Mcmullin winning Utah or any other state does not benefit Hillary.

Besides which, I thought trump was winning with a landslide

A third party, meant to take states away from the republican candidate(because that was his job), that takes a republican state away doesn't hurt the republican candidate?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump would never nominate justices the alt and far right would want.