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Elon Musk is pro-Putin, anti-Ukraine, and trying to push authoritarian rule. White Aparteid South African, running toxic workplaces because he's, racist, misogynist, and autistic. Not someone one should be taking life advice from. 10 children by 5 different Canadian women, married to none of them.
Weird doesn't begin to describe him.
This is a lie.Second, Trump clearly sees accusations that he’s a “threat to democracy” as beyond the pale, but, in reality, the Republican candidate really has endorsed an authoritarian-style vision that would undermine democracy. This assessment is based almost entirely on Trump’s own rhetoric and public statements.
Musk accuses the U.S. undersecretary of state for political affairs, Victoria Nuland, of warmongering in this conflict.
Interesting person, this Victoria Nuland...
Victoria Nuland - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
From 2003 to 2005, Nuland served as the principal Deputy National Security Adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney,[18] exercising an influential role during the Iraq War.[citation needed] From 2005 to 2008, during President George W. Bush's second term, Nuland served as U.S. ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in Brussels, where she concentrated on mobilizing European support for the NATO intervention in Afghanistan.
Obama administration
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In the summer of 2011, Nuland became special envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe[20] and then became State Department spokesperson.[21]
In May 2013, Nuland was nominated to act as assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs[22] and was sworn in on September 18, 2013.[23] In her role as assistant secretary, she managed diplomatic relations with fifty countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.[citation needed]
Ukraine
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During the Maidan Uprising in Ukraine, Nuland made appearances supporting the Maidan protesters.[24] In December 2013, she said in a speech to the US–Ukraine Foundation that the U.S. had invested over $5 billion on democratic skills and institutions, civic participation, and good governance in Ukraine since 1991. She stated that these were preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations.[25][24] The Russian government seized on this statement, claiming it was evidence the U.S. was orchestrating a color revolution.[24]
On February 4, 2014, a recording of a phone call between Nuland and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt on January 28, 2014, was published on YouTube.[26][27][28][29][30][31] The call followed an offer made on January 25, 2014, by Ukrainian president Yanukovych to include two members of the opposition in his government to calm the Maidan protests in Ukraine, one being that of his Prime Minister.[32] Nuland and Pyatt voiced their opinions of this offer, specifically on the post of Prime Minister, giving their opinion of several opposition personalities. Nuland told Pyatt that Arseniy Yatsenyuk would be the best candidate to hold this post.[27][28] Nuland suggested the United Nations, rather than the European Union, should be involved in a full political solution, adding "fuck the EU". The following day, Christiane Wirtz, Deputy Government Spokesperson and Deputy Head of the Press and Information Office of the German Federal Government, stated that German Chancellor Angela Merkel termed Nuland's remark "absolutely unacceptable."[33] The president of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, condemned the remark as "unacceptable".[34][35] Department of State spokesperson Jen Psaki said the discussion was not evidence of any American plan to influence the political outcome, remarking that "It shouldn't be a surprise that at any point there have been discussions about recent events and offers and what is happening on the ground".[36]
Nuland was the lead U.S. point person for Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, establishing loan guarantees to Ukraine, including a $1 billion loan guarantee in 2014, and the provisions of non-lethal assistance to the Ukrainian military and border guard.[37][38] Along with Secretary of State John Kerry and Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, she is seen as a leading supporter of defensive weapons delivery to Ukraine. In 2016, Nuland urged Ukraine to start prosecuting corrupt officials: "It's time to start locking up people who have ripped off the Ukrainian population for too long and it is time to eradicate the cancer of corruption".[39] While serving as the Department of State's lead diplomat on the Ukraine crisis, Nuland pushed European allies to take a harder line on Russian expansionism.[40]
During a June 7, 2016, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing titled "Russian Violations of Borders, Treaties, and Human Rights", Nuland described U.S. diplomatic outreach to the former Soviet Union and efforts to build a constructive relationship with Russia. During her testimony, Nuland noted de facto 2014 Russian intervention of Ukraine which she said, "shattered any remaining illusions about this Kremlin's willingness to abide by international law or live by the rules of the institutions that Russia joined at the end of the Cold War."[41]
And no one has tried to shoot her in the head, have they? The problem is demonstrably with your cult's violent rhetoric.
- Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
- Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."
- Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
- Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."
- Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."
- Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."
- Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
- Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
- Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."
- Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
- Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
- Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."
- Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."
- Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
- Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
- Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
- Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"
- Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
- Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
- Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
- Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
- Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."
- Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
- Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
- Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."
- Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
- Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
- Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."
- Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."
- Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."
- Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
- Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."
- Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."
- Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "We must stop [Trump]."
- Rachel Vindman, wife of disgraced impeachment hoax 'witness': "No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon."
- Rep. Mikie Sherrill: "This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad things going on in the Republican Party ... the attempts to divide, to enrage the population."
- State Rep. Steven Woodrow (D-CO): "The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are."
- Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News: "Today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance, continue to make baseless claims..."
- Alex Witt, MSNBC: "Do you expect there to be calls from within the Trump campaign to [tone it down]?"
- Phil Bump, The Washington Post: "Another chance for Trump to frame Democrats as dangerous has emerged."
- Bill Kristol, The Bulwark: "Vance ... incite
potential violence with lies."
[*]Ron Filipkowski, liberal commentator: "Was the golf course guy with the gun a migrant?"
[*]David Frum, The Atlantic: "Trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence ... today they want to present themselves as near-victims of violence."
[*]Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine: "Trump is a threat to democracy, and saying so is not incitement."
[*]The Cincinnati Enquirer: "The former president, Donald Trump, brings a lot of this stuff on himself."
[*]USA TODAY: "Hope in America."
[*]NBC News: "Golf course incident."
[*]Bloomberg: Trump "seizing on assassination attempt."
Hahaha correction, it was harris and xiden’s DOJ that went after him…we all knew he was “corrupt” when he challenged the demafacist for power. Anyone that challeges the party is “corrupt” and when the radicals can’t imprison them, yoj all send your brownshirts to kill them
when did I say the DOJ and Actblue were the same? weirdIt's not Harris' DoJ.
The DoJ is not Actblue.
Damn, you're dumb as fuck.
Prove they were Dems, Trump brown noser.Hey retard, they were both Dems. A whole shitload of YOUR problem. Remember that when Trump rolls to victory in November.
Hey retard, they were both Dems. A whole shitload of YOUR problem. Remember that when Trump rolls to victory in November.
The problem is simple. You accuse Trump of stoking and inciting violence but when the left stoke and incite violence, including people shooting at Trump, then you deny you're inciting violence with rhetoric like, "Trump is a threat to democracy or Trump will take democracy away".‘First, the investigation into the alleged would-be shooter is just beginning. The idea that the former president can speak to the suspect’s motivations, in detail, is difficult to take seriously. Given the preliminary evidence, Ryan Wesley Routh’s politics were, to put it mildly, idiosyncratic, supporting Republican, Democratic and independent candidates — including, in 2016, Trump himself. To characterize him as some kind of lifelong Democratic partisan is a stretch.
Second, Trump clearly sees accusations that he’s a “threat to democracy” as beyond the pale, but, in reality, the Republican candidate really has endorsed an authoritarian-style vision that would undermine democracy. This assessment is based almost entirely on Trump’s own rhetoric and public statements. When the former president’s critics, in Democratic politics and elsewhere, accuse him of being a threat to democracy, their case is rooted in fact.
Third, these assessments aren’t just coming from the left. Trump’s own former defense secretary, Mark Esper, has described the former president as a “threat to democracy.” The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, who remained neutral in every presidential race throughout his lengthy career, made an exception for Trump, calling him a “threat to democracy.” Retired federal Judge J. Michael Luttig, a giant of conservative jurisprudence, directly accused Trump and his allies of waging a “war on democracy,” adding that the former president is a “clear and present danger” to American democracy.
Fourth, if Trump genuinely believes that accusations about “threats to democracy” are beyond the pale, he should probably take a moment to explain why he keeps accusing people he dislikes of being “threats to democracy.” At last week’s presidential debate, for example, he pointed at his Democratic rival and declared, “They talk about democracy. ‘I’m a threat to democracy.’ They’re the threat to democracy.”
[…]
Trump doesn’t want to be criticized, and he would love nothing more than to bully Democrats into pulling their punches in the campaign’s final 50 days, even as he condemns them in increasingly hysterical terms. Many Republicans apparently want the public to believe that it’s dangerous to tell voters that a dangerous candidate is actually dangerous.’
The problem(s) with Trump blaming Dems for apparent assassination attempt
The more Donald Trump blames Democrats for apparent assassination attempts, the more outrageously wrong his argument appears.www.msnbc.com
Many Republicans are of course wrong – there’s nothing ‘dangerous’ about acknowledging the fact that Trump is a threat to democracy and unfit to be president.
- Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
- Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."
- Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
- Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."
- Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."
- Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."
- Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
- Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
- Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."
- Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
- Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
- Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."
- Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."
- Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
- Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
- Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
- Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"
- Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
- Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
- Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
- Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
- Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."
- Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
- Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
- Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
- Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."
- Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
- Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
- Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."
- Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."
- Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."
- Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
- Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."
- Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."
- Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "We must stop [Trump]."
- Rachel Vindman, wife of disgraced impeachment hoax 'witness': "No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon."
- Rep. Mikie Sherrill: "This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad things going on in the Republican Party ... the attempts to divide, to enrage the population."
- State Rep. Steven Woodrow (D-CO): "The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are."
- Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News: "Today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance, continue to make baseless claims..."
- Alex Witt, MSNBC: "Do you expect there to be calls from within the Trump campaign to [tone it down]?"
- Phil Bump, The Washington Post: "Another chance for Trump to frame Democrats as dangerous has emerged."
- Bill Kristol, The Bulwark: "Vance ... incite
potential violence with lies."
[*]Ron Filipkowski, liberal commentator: "Was the golf course guy with the gun a migrant?"
[*]David Frum, The Atlantic: "Trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence ... today they want to present themselves as near-victims of violence."
[*]Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine: "Trump is a threat to democracy, and saying so is not incitement."
[*]The Cincinnati Enquirer: "The former president, Donald Trump, brings a lot of this stuff on himself."
[*]USA TODAY: "Hope in America."
[*]NBC News: "Golf course incident."
[*]Bloomberg: Trump "seizing on assassination attempt."
Well, rational people would say disenfranchising 14,000,000 voters and installing a candidate that has never received a single primary vote is a danger to democracy. Just saying.Thing is, it's actually based on the things he's done. When you attempt to overturn an election through fraud and incite insurrections, you are in fact a danger to democracy. That's the least of it. Even nutters and lunatics can recognize that much. The only ones who don't are the ones who desperately want to live in some sort of autocracy with Trump as their cult leader king.
sure there are no crazy die hard lefties out there....
Well, rational people would say disenfranchising 14,000,000 voters and installing a candidate that has never received a single primary vote is a danger to democracy. Just saying.
yea they did....thats how all this began.....No one is claiming there aren't any, but the point is, do any of them need a democrat tell them that Trump is a danger to democracy when anyone who isn't living under a rock can see all the shit that Trump is up to? lol
LOL Nice spin. Doesn't everyone love being lied to, their vote disenfranchised, their leader unceremoniously tossed to the curb in a palace coup by his "friends" and a candidate that they unanimously rejected installed by the party bosses as their candidate?Not only was that perfectly legal, but those same voters couldn't be happier right now. Even Biden supporters have all but disappeared.
Yes. Deal with it. YOUR side's fault. Which will cost you come November. Stupidus.No.
Deal with it.
