McConnell Cannot Block Witnesses - Just Announced

[Mac1958]

If Moscow Mitch could block witnesses, did that make Trump supporters think Bolton's claims would just go away? Voters in the next election will know what Bolton says whether it is said as a witness in the senate or not.

I have a tough time believing any of this matters to voters at this point. Trump is the most polarizing President in the history of historical histories, and I suspect people's minds are made up.
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Is he MAC, really?

This is the type of hyperbole that you often chide others for. You really think he is more polarizing than, say, Lincoln?

Yes.

And when I purposely go out my way to use a silly term like "in history of historical histories", I make the assumption that people are aware that I'm not trying to be literal.

As opposed to nutters, who usually try to defend their hyperbole when I point it out.
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[Ray From Cleveland]

Well......we Republicans always look for a silver lining, unlike Democrats who constantly see doom and gloom everywhere.

Obama didn't see doom and gloom. Don't forget, he was all about
'Hope and Change' and things did get better with him as prez.

And things aren't better in this country under Trump? Trump is scoring points all the time with people, it's just a shame the MSM is so bias in scant reporting of them. Just yesterday. the SC ruled that Trump's green card policy can be put in place. It prohibits people applying for green cards from getting in and ending up on our welfare programs. You want to come here for work, school, whatever, you need to demonstrate you can financially take care of yourself and perhaps your family. Lord knows how many billions he saved us right there.

Trump's mostly just riding the upward wave that started under Obama a decade ago. link below. Trump drove us deeper in debt with the usual republican tax breaks for billionaires and corporations. He even found time to take away tax breaks for homeowners in states like california and now he has to subsidize (socialism maybe?) farmers that are losing out because of his tariff wars. Careful with this guy since he already warned us at Davos that cutting safety nets like social security and medicare is in his plans as republicans are always wanting to do. No, this guy basically doesn't know shit from shinola, being a spoiled rich kid that never had to make a living like rest of us. Remember, this is a guy who's still in bankruptcy and we need to get rid of him before he bankrupts this country.

Trump boasts the US economy is the best it's ever been under his watch. Here are 9 charts showing how it compares to the Obama and Bush presidencies. | Markets Insider

No, Trump's bankruptcies ended long ago. Donald Trump owned or operated over 500 businesses in his career, so three bankruptcies (in a bad economy) is not all that unusual.

The economy didn't move along because of DumBama, industry moved along in spite of him. Hussein has been the most anti-business President in our lifetime. Businesses couldn't wait for him to be out of the White House. DumBama never made one policy to the benefit of our job creators. He only made things harder on them. You can't give him credit for an economy he fought to slow down. Thank the feds and their quantitive easing for any success under him.

Trade deals position US farmers for ‘record year of exports’: US agriculture secretary

Let's take a look at the numbers. Using 2016 which was actually a bad year for export agriculture goods to china was 1.09 billion dollars. In 2015, it was more than twice that much. For this year, it's going to be 50 billion. I find some holes in that. For 2019, it was only 117 million. Now if China is going to really buy 50 billion that would be good. But I see a huge problem.

Our Farmers scaled way down in order to stay in business. They don't plant what they can't sell. The fields lie fallow. Now, add to the fact that the floods in the bread basket that has reduced the amount of land that is usable by quite a margin. I don't see our agriculture production able to produce 50 billion on top of the other commitments. That's almost 50 times the export to china as 2016. And 500 times increase from 2019 using less acreage.

Something smells to high heaven here.

Then I guess your debate is with the Agriculture Secretary and not me. I only post what was reported.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Senate should remove Trump, majority of independent voters say in Fox News poll
USA TODAY

Our representatives don't make decisions based on polls, they make decisions based on right or wrong. The impeachment is a farce. They contain no articles subject to impeachment by our founders. The only reasonable conclusion to make is that it's over with. There was nothing here to start off with.

If that were the case Moscow Mitch would allow quite a few of those over 400 HR bills to pass onto the senate floor or at least to committee. But now, the polls are going against Rump. Watch for a change in the behavior of the Senate Republicans. They DO listen to polls when they get as bad as they are right now. They've hitched their wagons to Rumps and if he goes down (even if it's in November) they go down with him in all but the reddest areas. I don't wish to see the Senate lost to the Dems. We can't afford one party to have all 3 power bases. Every time that happens we get is real serious trouble. I want them to start reaching out with the olive branch. And if the Dems in the house don't accept that branch, get rid of them with people that will. But keep it balanced.

As it is, a Ham Sandwich could defeat Rump in November. And let's face it, the Dems are running what amounts to 4 ham sandwiches to choose from. It's a friggin train wreck.

What are you talking about every time? Do you forget who ran the Congress during the first two years of Trump? We did better than ever. If not for the RINO's, we'd be better off yet.

 

[ph3iron]

McConnell says he doesn't have the votes.

Three Democrat presidential candidates may be neutered.

DemocratIC darlin.
Try high school

 

[ph3iron]

Senate should remove Trump, majority of independent voters say in Fox News poll
USA TODAY

Our representatives don't make decisions based on polls, they make decisions based on right or wrong. The impeachment is a farce. They contain no articles subject to impeachment by our founders. The only reasonable conclusion to make is that it's over with. There was nothing here to start off with.

If that were the case Moscow Mitch would allow quite a few of those over 400 HR bills to pass onto the senate floor or at least to committee. But now, the polls are going against Rump. Watch for a change in the behavior of the Senate Republicans. They DO listen to polls when they get as bad as they are right now. They've hitched their wagons to Rumps and if he goes down (even if it's in November) they go down with him in all but the reddest areas. I don't wish to see the Senate lost to the Dems. We can't afford one party to have all 3 power bases. Every time that happens we get is real serious trouble. I want them to start reaching out with the olive branch. And if the Dems in the house don't accept that branch, get rid of them with people that will. But keep it balanced.

As it is, a Ham Sandwich could defeat Rump in November. And let's face it, the Dems are running what amounts to 4 ham sandwiches to choose from. It's a friggin train wreck.

What are you talking about every time? Do you forget who ran the Congress during the first two years of Trump? We did better than ever. If not for the RINO's, we'd be better off yet.

I guess you saw the job creation graph?
Maybe A steady continuation of Obama.
Stock markets up.
Pity most trumpanzees don't have 401k s

 

[DOTR]

What would liberals do without polls? Besides ignore actual elections.

 

[ph3iron]

What liberals do without polls?

I presume you are a proud one?
My corporate millionaire friends are.
Liberal, liber, free
For the individual and small gov.
Try to not watch knees news

 

[ph3iron]

Senate should remove Trump, majority of independent voters say in Fox News poll
USA TODAY

Our representatives don't make decisions based on polls, they make decisions based on right or wrong. The impeachment is a farce. They contain no articles subject to impeachment by our founders. The only reasonable conclusion to make is that it's over with. There was nothing here to start off with.

If that were the case Moscow Mitch would allow quite a few of those over 400 HR bills to pass onto the senate floor or at least to committee. But now, the polls are going against Rump. Watch for a change in the behavior of the Senate Republicans. They DO listen to polls when they get as bad as they are right now. They've hitched their wagons to Rumps and if he goes down (even if it's in November) they go down with him in all but the reddest areas. I don't wish to see the Senate lost to the Dems. We can't afford one party to have all 3 power bases. Every time that happens we get is real serious trouble. I want them to start reaching out with the olive branch. And if the Dems in the house don't accept that branch, get rid of them with people that will. But keep it balanced.

As it is, a Ham Sandwich could defeat Rump in November. And let's face it, the Dems are running what amounts to 4 ham sandwiches to choose from. It's a friggin train wreck.

What are you talking about every time? Do you forget who ran the Congress during the first two years of Trump? We did better than ever. If not for the RINO's, we'd be better off yet.

Data?
Please not the unemployment rate.
Try job creation
Mmm, why didn't they investigate the corrupt bidens their 2 years?

 

[ph3iron]

McConnell says he doesn't have the votes.

Three Democrat presidential candidates may be neutered.

I'm sure he will.
Hes smart

 

[ph3iron]

In for a penny, in for a pound. Open the floodgates and call ALL the witnesses, especially the ones the democrats want kept hidden. Find out what Schiff did with the WB. Find out if Biden used his influence to get his kids those jobs. Don't let the democrats control the witness list. If they want witnesses, give it to them.

They'll all plead the 5th...This is a total sandbag job.

Beside that, Romney doesn't want his connections to Barisma to come out....Little doubt in my mind he's being blackmailed to go along with the demoslime.

Wow, this Hollywood deep state!!
Got to be a zero college trumpanzee

 

[ph3iron]

I'm all for witnesses.... I'm wondering about the protocol however.... do we take breaks while Hunted Biden is snorting cocaine, or is that done in mid-testimony? Maybe off camera?

Can we keep Pedo Joe for a month and go through each and every country he has shook down for millions? If Plugs capitulates and admits there was every reason to inquire about his racketeering, is the process over?

So many questions....

Barr is creeping around the earth trying to find evidence.
Like he shut down Iran Contra

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Senate should remove Trump, majority of independent voters say in Fox News poll
USA TODAY

Our representatives don't make decisions based on polls, they make decisions based on right or wrong. The impeachment is a farce. They contain no articles subject to impeachment by our founders. The only reasonable conclusion to make is that it's over with. There was nothing here to start off with.

If that were the case Moscow Mitch would allow quite a few of those over 400 HR bills to pass onto the senate floor or at least to committee. But now, the polls are going against Rump. Watch for a change in the behavior of the Senate Republicans. They DO listen to polls when they get as bad as they are right now. They've hitched their wagons to Rumps and if he goes down (even if it's in November) they go down with him in all but the reddest areas. I don't wish to see the Senate lost to the Dems. We can't afford one party to have all 3 power bases. Every time that happens we get is real serious trouble. I want them to start reaching out with the olive branch. And if the Dems in the house don't accept that branch, get rid of them with people that will. But keep it balanced.

As it is, a Ham Sandwich could defeat Rump in November. And let's face it, the Dems are running what amounts to 4 ham sandwiches to choose from. It's a friggin train wreck.

What are you talking about every time? Do you forget who ran the Congress during the first two years of Trump? We did better than ever. If not for the RINO's, we'd be better off yet.

Data?
Please not the unemployment rate.
Try job creation
Mmm, why didn't they investigate the corrupt bidens their 2 years?

Who says they weren't? As for job creation, that's easier to accomplish when unemployment is very high than when unemployment is close to normal, but Trump did it anyway. DumBama? At the right place at the right time. He didn't create any policy that helped our job creators. If anything, he instituted policy to retard job growth.

Trump took initiatives to help get the economy going. He got rid of Commie Care mandates, he removed business regulations, he greatly lowered their taxes, he created the policy that for every new business regulation made, two had to be removed in it's place. But it's less about jobs than it is good jobs, which were few and far between during the Hussein years.

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Trade deals position US farmers for ‘record year of exports’: US agriculture secretary

Homebuilder confidence jumps to highest level in 20 years

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

McConnell says he doesn't have the votes.

Three Democrat presidential candidates may be neutered.

DemocratIC darlin.
Try high school

How 'bout we call them feces, which is at least inarguably accurate.

 

[Terri4Trump]

McConnell says he doesn't have the votes.

Three Democrat presidential candidates may be neutered.

Do people realize that the Senate is the jury?

Imagine if you were in trial for murder and the DA failed to make his case, and then he told the jury, Hey, go find some more witnesses and evidence for me, will ya?

Thats what is happening. Hellooooooo

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

McConnell says he doesn't have the votes.

Three Democrat presidential candidates may be neutered.

Do people realize that the Senate is the jury?

Imagine if you were in trial for murder and the DA failed to make his case, and then he told the jury, Hey, go find some more witnesses and evidence for me, will ya?

Thats what is happening. Hellooooooo

Rush pointed out something pretty clever today. He stated the Democrats are claiming the Senate is hiding important evidence. Wait a minute!!! If he was impeached, then obviously what they are saying is that they didn't have substantial evidence to impeach him, which is what we were saying all along.

 

[Siete]

if Trump had the balls to testify like Bill did, and allow witnesses LIKE BILL DID, then --------------

 

[tyroneweaver]

I posted this last week. Its typical playbook and you people dont learn. Did it work with Kavenaugh? Does it ever work?
Not with Trump. Leak away.

gop Senators Receive Stark Warning About Voting Against trump

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Are you saying that Rump wouldn't issue such a warning? it's typical Rump. Who knows, maybe Rump directed one of his lackeys to leak it so people can feel sorry for him. Didn't work out so well did it. He just comes off as a Mafia Don.

So now you claim Trump is the one who leaked the Bolton excerpts?

LOL. Wheels within wheels..just how far gone are you?

The White house is the ONLY place that had a copy of the transcript. He didn't give copies to anyone else.

Ya, sorta like the phone call.

Trump didn't release a transcript of that phone call.

Thats sorta the point

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Obama didn't see doom and gloom. Don't forget, he was all about
'Hope and Change' and things did get better with him as prez.

And things aren't better in this country under Trump? Trump is scoring points all the time with people, it's just a shame the MSM is so bias in scant reporting of them. Just yesterday. the SC ruled that Trump's green card policy can be put in place. It prohibits people applying for green cards from getting in and ending up on our welfare programs. You want to come here for work, school, whatever, you need to demonstrate you can financially take care of yourself and perhaps your family. Lord knows how many billions he saved us right there.

Trump's mostly just riding the upward wave that started under Obama a decade ago. link below. Trump drove us deeper in debt with the usual republican tax breaks for billionaires and corporations. He even found time to take away tax breaks for homeowners in states like california and now he has to subsidize (socialism maybe?) farmers that are losing out because of his tariff wars. Careful with this guy since he already warned us at Davos that cutting safety nets like social security and medicare is in his plans as republicans are always wanting to do. No, this guy basically doesn't know shit from shinola, being a spoiled rich kid that never had to make a living like rest of us. Remember, this is a guy who's still in bankruptcy and we need to get rid of him before he bankrupts this country.

Trump boasts the US economy is the best it's ever been under his watch. Here are 9 charts showing how it compares to the Obama and Bush presidencies. | Markets Insider

No, Trump's bankruptcies ended long ago. Donald Trump owned or operated over 500 businesses in his career, so three bankruptcies (in a bad economy) is not all that unusual.

The economy didn't move along because of DumBama, industry moved along in spite of him. Hussein has been the most anti-business President in our lifetime. Businesses couldn't wait for him to be out of the White House. DumBama never made one policy to the benefit of our job creators. He only made things harder on them. You can't give him credit for an economy he fought to slow down. Thank the feds and their quantitive easing for any success under him.

Trade deals position US farmers for ‘record year of exports’: US agriculture secretary

Let's take a look at the numbers. Using 2016 which was actually a bad year for export agriculture goods to china was 1.09 billion dollars. In 2015, it was more than twice that much. For this year, it's going to be 50 billion. I find some holes in that. For 2019, it was only 117 million. Now if China is going to really buy 50 billion that would be good. But I see a huge problem.

Our Farmers scaled way down in order to stay in business. They don't plant what they can't sell. The fields lie fallow. Now, add to the fact that the floods in the bread basket that has reduced the amount of land that is usable by quite a margin. I don't see our agriculture production able to produce 50 billion on top of the other commitments. That's almost 50 times the export to china as 2016. And 500 times increase from 2019 using less acreage.

Something smells to high heaven here.

Then I guess your debate is with the Agriculture Secretary and not me. I only post what was reported.

If you don't like the questions don't bring it up. I started life out as a Rancher/Farmer.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, when this first started, Republicans were a united front in their support of Trump. Now? There have been people peeling off in their support, and Trump might not be sitting as good as he thinks.

I'm guessing that they are voting for witnesses so that the evidence can be presented. If it's damning enough, then Republicans will abandon Trump and he will be removed. Lots of Republicans don't like Trump, but they are scared of what they think he might be able to do to them politically.

If you followed the Nixon time, The House didn't have even enough votes to even say a sparse word against Nixon. But as time went by, the General Public Opinion turned sour on what was once the most Popular President ever in Office short of FDR and JFK. When it reached 56%, they had no choice. They were ready to vote for impeachment. Nixon saw it and resigned instead knowing he would be impeached. The funny part is, in the Senate (history shows) there wasn't enough support for removal of office. It's tough to impeach and remove a President because it's so dramatic and harmful to the Nation Nixon did what he thought was best for the Nation.

You left out a pretty key fact. The tides didn't turn against Nixon until the recording known as "the Smoking Gun" was exposed, which nailed Nixon on his knowledge of the break in and the attempt to cover it up, despite publicly denying knowledge or involvement. THAT is when the bottom fell out. The circumstantial he-said/she-said stuff wasn't doing much of anything to move the needle, just like it isn't moving the needle much here.

You mean like the information in the past week on Rump? It's moved the needle on the public demanding additional witnesses including Bolton and a few others that were denied the House. But mostly Bolton at this time. There is a reason that Moscow Mitch is trying very, very hard to prevent even one witness. If it's even one witness, it's going to be Bolton. And he knows where ALL the skeletins are buried.

No I don't mean like the thing with Bolton. That would still be he-said/he-said. If that's all Nixon was up against, he wouldn't have lost all support from the Senate and been forced out. It was the recording that did him in (before deep fakes were a thing).

Nixon didn't lose the support of the Senate. It never got that far. He lost the support of the House. Historians look back and come to the conclusion that the Senate would not have voted for removal even though the House would have voted for Impeachment. Nixon was NOT impeached. He resigned before that could happen. There are only 3 impeached Presidents to date; Johnson (Andrew), Nixon and Rump. And there has been zero removed from office due to an impeachment. Johnson was saved by one Republican voting no.

First you say Nixon wasn't impeached, then when you list the 3 presidents who have been impeached, you put Nixon on the list, along with Andrew Johnson and Trump.

I think you meant to say Clinton and not Nixon.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And things aren't better in this country under Trump? Trump is scoring points all the time with people, it's just a shame the MSM is so bias in scant reporting of them. Just yesterday. the SC ruled that Trump's green card policy can be put in place. It prohibits people applying for green cards from getting in and ending up on our welfare programs. You want to come here for work, school, whatever, you need to demonstrate you can financially take care of yourself and perhaps your family. Lord knows how many billions he saved us right there.

Trump's mostly just riding the upward wave that started under Obama a decade ago. link below. Trump drove us deeper in debt with the usual republican tax breaks for billionaires and corporations. He even found time to take away tax breaks for homeowners in states like california and now he has to subsidize (socialism maybe?) farmers that are losing out because of his tariff wars. Careful with this guy since he already warned us at Davos that cutting safety nets like social security and medicare is in his plans as republicans are always wanting to do. No, this guy basically doesn't know shit from shinola, being a spoiled rich kid that never had to make a living like rest of us. Remember, this is a guy who's still in bankruptcy and we need to get rid of him before he bankrupts this country.

Trump boasts the US economy is the best it's ever been under his watch. Here are 9 charts showing how it compares to the Obama and Bush presidencies. | Markets Insider

No, Trump's bankruptcies ended long ago. Donald Trump owned or operated over 500 businesses in his career, so three bankruptcies (in a bad economy) is not all that unusual.

The economy didn't move along because of DumBama, industry moved along in spite of him. Hussein has been the most anti-business President in our lifetime. Businesses couldn't wait for him to be out of the White House. DumBama never made one policy to the benefit of our job creators. He only made things harder on them. You can't give him credit for an economy he fought to slow down. Thank the feds and their quantitive easing for any success under him.

Trade deals position US farmers for ‘record year of exports’: US agriculture secretary

Let's take a look at the numbers. Using 2016 which was actually a bad year for export agriculture goods to china was 1.09 billion dollars. In 2015, it was more than twice that much. For this year, it's going to be 50 billion. I find some holes in that. For 2019, it was only 117 million. Now if China is going to really buy 50 billion that would be good. But I see a huge problem.

Our Farmers scaled way down in order to stay in business. They don't plant what they can't sell. The fields lie fallow. Now, add to the fact that the floods in the bread basket that has reduced the amount of land that is usable by quite a margin. I don't see our agriculture production able to produce 50 billion on top of the other commitments. That's almost 50 times the export to china as 2016. And 500 times increase from 2019 using less acreage.

Something smells to high heaven here.

Then I guess your debate is with the Agriculture Secretary and not me. I only post what was reported.

If you don't like the questions don't bring it up. I started life out as a Rancher/Farmer.

Who said I didn't like the questions?. I said it's not my research nor my prediction when I was replied TO ANOTHER POSTER.