McCarthy backs officer that shot Ashli Babbitt

[sealybobo]

I find your diseased mind fascinating.

You believe both the Charlie Kirk murder and the Trump assassination attempts are fake, but you believe the Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good shootings are real. All were caught on multiple cameras, and all were scrutinized endlessly, both by experts and by loons like you.

I'd love to hear your logic on this.

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What does stop or I'll shoot mean?

I assume she isn't a zombie and understands lawful commands that come from a police officer?

Good created an imminent threat using her car as a weapon. That allows use of deadly force

No she didn't. What she did was wrong but she didn't do what you or Trump said she did.

Let's look at Trump's version of the events

AI help me

In January 2026, President Donald Trump made a series of controversial comments regarding the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother, by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.
The President's public remarks have largely focused on defending the agent's actions while criticizing the victim and local officials:
Defense of the Shooting

• Claims of Self-Defense: Hours after the incident, Trump posted on Truth Social that the agent "seems to have shot her in self-defense," alleging that Good "violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer".
• Characterization of the Victim: Trump has portrayed Good as "very radical," "very violent," "very disorderly," and "highly disrespectful" toward law enforcement.
• Blaming "Disrespect": On January 12, 2026, Trump suggested that Good's "highly disrespectful" attitude played a role in the fatal outcome.

HOLY SHIT HE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT ASHLI!!!!

 

[marvin martian]

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What does stop or I'll shoot mean?

I assume she isn't a zombie and understands lawful commands that come from a police officer?

No she didn't. What she did was wrong but she didn't do what you or Trump said she did.

Let's look at Trump's version of the events

AI help me

In January 2026, President Donald Trump made a series of controversial comments regarding the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother, by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.
The President's public remarks have largely focused on defending the agent's actions while criticizing the victim and local officials:
Defense of the Shooting

• Claims of Self-Defense: Hours after the incident, Trump posted on Truth Social that the agent "seems to have shot her in self-defense," alleging that Good "violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer".
• Characterization of the Victim: Trump has portrayed Good as "very radical," "very violent," "very disorderly," and "highly disrespectful" toward law enforcement.
• Blaming "Disrespect": On January 12, 2026, Trump suggested that Good's "highly disrespectful" attitude played a role in the fatal outcome.

HOLY SHIT HE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT ASHLI!!!!

I'll ignore all your insanity here to focus on the part of your insanity I asked about. Why do you believe the shootings of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good are real? Why aren't they fake, like you believe the killing of Charlie Kirk and the shooting of Donald Trump are fake?

 

[sealybobo]

I'll ignore all your insanity here to focus on the part of your insanity I asked about. Why do you believe the shootings of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good are real? Why aren't they fake, like you believe the killing of Charlie Kirk and the shooting of Donald Trump are fake?

Not everything is a conspiracy theory dude. Like you, I only cling to conspiracy theories that fit with my social world views.

I'll give you a quick example that'll go over your head. Russia invading Ukraine. No different than what Israel is doing in Gaza. Other than the faked/staged attack in January a few years ago. Those were ANTIFA not Hamas who attacked. Bibi attacked his own people in order to launch that take over of GAZA.

What was Russia doing wrong in Ukraine?

a. Land Grab
b. Not letting the media in
c. Not letting aid in
d. Bombing civilians. If 1 Hamas was hiding among 1000 civilians the Jews bombed all 1001 of them. And said it was justified. Sick huh?

So it depends on how you look at things. The USA does not condemn Israel when it does the exact same things that Russia was doing. And now we are doing it too. We want Venezuela oil, we take it. No need for conspiracy theories with Trump. He don't even try to hide it. Greenland? You're next. Cuba?

Are Republicans going to get us involved in the middle east again? I hear you're going to war with Iran now too.

Be careful. Don't bite off more than you can chew like Bush did. You republicans and your regime changing and nation building. No new wars? Meanwhile the world's going to shit. But hey, so what if we started it as long as we benefit. Just hope it doesn't go badly for us, which I suspect it will.

 

[Hafar1014]

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What does stop or I'll shoot mean?

I assume she isn't a zombie and understands lawful commands that come from a police officer?

No she didn't. What she did was wrong but she didn't do what you or Trump said she did.

Let's look at Trump's version of the events

AI help me

In January 2026, President Donald Trump made a series of controversial comments regarding the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother, by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.
The President's public remarks have largely focused on defending the agent's actions while criticizing the victim and local officials:
Defense of the Shooting

• Claims of Self-Defense: Hours after the incident, Trump posted on Truth Social that the agent "seems to have shot her in self-defense," alleging that Good "violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer".
• Characterization of the Victim: Trump has portrayed Good as "very radical," "very violent," "very disorderly," and "highly disrespectful" toward law enforcement.
• Blaming "Disrespect": On January 12, 2026, Trump suggested that Good's "highly disrespectful" attitude played a role in the fatal outcome.

HOLY SHIT HE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT ASHLI!!!!

She created an imminent threat when she stepped on the gas. No she didnt isnt an argument. A 3000 pound car fleeing an arrest is a felony and threat. Its also proof of guilt

 

[sealybobo]

She created an imminent threat when she stepped on the gas. No she didnt isnt an argument. A 3000 pound car fleeing an arrest is a felony and threat. Its also proof of guilt

I'm pretty sure stepping on the gas to get away isn't justification for shooting someone. It used to be but they changed the law. Are we changing it back? Then change it. I won't mind so long as the law is clear about it.

In the United States, police are generally prohibited from shooting a fleeing suspect unless that person poses a significant and immediate threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others

I'm sure you want to give police more power to shoot people who don't obey lawful commands but be careful

This is Ashli right before she got shot. She wanted to be the first one through the broken glass. Once she was successful, the rest of the mob was going to follow her. Cowards sent a woman in first thinking the cops wouldn't shoot a woman. We know now cops will shoot a little piggy

 

[Hafar1014]

I'm pretty sure stepping on the gas to get away isn't justification for shooting someone. It used to be but they changed the law. Are we changing it back? Then change it. I won't mind so long as the law is clear about it.

In the United States, police are generally prohibited from shooting a fleeing suspect unless that person poses a significant and immediate threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others

I'm sure you want to give police more power to shoot people who don't obey lawful commands but be careful

This is Ashli right before she got shot. She wanted to be the first one through the broken glass. Once she was successful, the rest of the mob was going to follow her. Cowards sent a woman in first thinking the cops wouldn't shoot a woman. We know now cops will shoot a little piggy

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It absolutely is a 3000 pound car is deadly weapon and there are cases all the time of a person fleeing arrest in a car being shot. She is threat to all agents in the area. Why didnt she just stop

 

[sealybobo]

It absolutely is a 3000 pound car is deadly weapon and there are cases all the time of a person fleeing arrest in a car being shot. She is threat to all agents in the area. Why didnt she just stop

Yes and a mob can be deadly even without weapons.

Why didn't the mob stop Jan 6? The cops told them to stop???

 

[EMH]

MTG calls the officer a murderer and McCarthy comes to his defense. I thought he thought he had MTG on a short leash?

“I think the police officer did his job,” McCarthy said Thursday in response to a question from HuffPost about whether Babbitt was murdered.

Kevin McCarthy Backs Officer Who Shot Ashli Babbitt, Ignores Rep. Greene’s ‘Murder’ Claim

Thanks.

McCarthy = PRO ISRAEL RINO, card carrying member of "Alliance for Treason," big spending big government disaster for America

McCarthy, touting his support for Israel, doesn't rule out returning as speaker

Kevin McCarthy said President Joe Biden's "first priority" should be rescuing American hostages as he outlined a plan for the U.S. response to the Israel-Gaza war.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes and a mob can be deadly even without weapons.

Why didn't the mob stop Jan 6? The cops told them to stop???

s usual your points are relevant.
The cops opened the doors for them and invited them in which has no0thing to do with an emotionally disturbed woman using a car as a weapon

 

[Darlo kittu]

Perhaps he believes if he does not he will be tagged a racist

 

[sealybobo]

s usual your points are relevant.
The cops opened the doors for them and invited them in which has no0thing to do with an emotionally disturbed woman using a car as a weapon

The cops opened the doors and invited them huh? LOL You're delusional old man. Boomer.

 

[sealybobo]

s usual your points are relevant.
The cops opened the doors for them and invited them in which has no0thing to do with an emotionally disturbed woman using a car as a weapon

Really?

Ashli Babbitt was fatally shot on January 6, 2021, while attempting to climb through a broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker's Lobby during the U.S. Capitol riot; another rioter had smashed the glass, and Babbitt was trying to get inside when a Capitol Police officer shot her

Now imagine the mob was a bunch of liberals doing the exact same thing Ashli did. Yea, I thought so. You'd be completely okay with the cop shooting the woman. Sort of like you are with Nicole Good.

Sorry, the officers were protecting our politicians, in fear for their own lives and the mob wasn't obeying lawful commands. Sort of like Nicole Good. She didn't stop when the cops said to. Instead she drove away.

Don't give us that shit the officer was in fear for his life. Don't say she was trying to run over him. Impossible. he was standing aside her driver side back door. The fact is she didn't listen to the cop's lawful commands and he shot her for it.

Ask Trump. He said her disrespect played a part in this.

My brother asked me a good question twice. Would I have done what Nicole Good did? Nope. Would I have done what Ashli Babbitt did? NOPE! So I need to be fair about this. Both deserved to die.

 

[Hafar1014]

Really?

Ashli Babbitt was fatally shot on January 6, 2021, while attempting to climb through a broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker's Lobby during the U.S. Capitol riot; another rioter had smashed the glass, and Babbitt was trying to get inside when a Capitol Police officer shot her

Now imagine the mob was a bunch of liberals doing the exact same thing Ashli did. Yea, I thought so. You'd be completely okay with the cop shooting the woman. Sort of like you are with Nicole Good.

Sorry, the officers were protecting our politicians, in fear for their own lives and the mob wasn't obeying lawful commands. Sort of like Nicole Good. She didn't stop when the cops said to. Instead she drove away.

Don't give us that shit the officer was in fear for his life. Don't say she was trying to run over him. Impossible. he was standing aside her driver side back door. The fact is she didn't listen to the cop's lawful commands and he shot her for it.

Ask Trump. He said her disrespect played a part in this.

My brother asked me a good question twice. Would I have done what Nicole Good did? Nope. Would I have done what Ashli Babbitt did? NOPE! So I need to be fair about this. Both deserved to die.

Babitt created no imminent threat the standard for use of deadly force. It would help if you had any understanding of the law. She was unarmed and not even close to the cop who killed her.
Good was obstructing justice revisiting arrest and struck and agent with a 3000 pound car. In your tiny mind that equals climbing through a window.
A threat must be imminent. Do know what that word means?

 

[sealybobo]

Babitt created no imminent threat the standard for use of deadly force. It would help if you had any understanding of the law. She was unarmed and not even close to the cop who killed her.
Good was obstructing justice revisiting arrest and struck and agent with a 3000 pound car. In your tiny mind that equals climbing through a window.
A threat must be imminent. Do know what that word means?

There was an imminent threat you idiot!!!!

If my buddy breaks your window and I start climbing through the window coming towards you and your family. At what point am I an imminent threat?

If I yell stop or I'll shoot and you keep coming, guess what boomer?

 

[sealybobo]

Babitt created no imminent threat the standard for use of deadly force. It would help if you had any understanding of the law. She was unarmed and not even close to the cop who killed her.
Good was obstructing justice revisiting arrest and struck and agent with a 3000 pound car. In your tiny mind that equals climbing through a window.
A threat must be imminent. Do know what that word means?

Should I listen to you or the cops/justice department?

The U.S. Capitol Police officer who shot and killed Ashli Babbitt during the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack was cleared of wrongdoing by both the Department of Justice and an internal Capitol Police investigation, which found his use of deadly force was lawful and within policy.

And don't tell me Babbitt's family reached a settlement with the government and that's proof she shouldn't have been shot. That was the Trump administration in 2025. Of course they did. He is responsible for their daughter's death.

 

[Hafar1014]

Should I listen to you or the cops/justice department?

The U.S. Capitol Police officer who shot and killed Ashli Babbitt during the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack was cleared of wrongdoing by both the Department of Justice and an internal Capitol Police investigation, which found his use of deadly force was lawful and within policy.

And don't tell me Babbitt's family reached a settlement with the government and that's proof she shouldn't have been shot. That was the Trump administration in 2025. Of course they did. He is responsible for their daughter's death.

So you cant reply with a knowledge of the law.
A black cop shot an unarmed white woman and you expect the Biden DOJ to do anything about it. This was a whitewash.
This is ow you reply with intelligence. You prove Babbit created an imminent threat to the cop who shot her.
He is indicted today for welfare fraud.
Heres the law and notice the fleeing suspect clause

Law enforcement officers, including local police and federal agents (e.g., DHS, DOJ), are governed by specific policies based on the U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court rulings such as Tennessee v. Garner and Graham v. Connor.

• Imminent Danger: Officers may use deadly force only when they have a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.
• Fleeing Suspects: Deadly force cannot be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. It is authorized only if the officer has probable cause to believe the suspect committed a violent felony involving serious harm and poses a significant, imminent threat to the community if not immediately apprehended.
• De-escalation and Alternatives: Federal and many local police policies emphasize using de-escalation tactics when feasible and using force only when no reasonably effective, safe, and feasible alternative appears to exist.
• Warning: When feasible, a verbal warning must be given before using deadly force.

 

[sealybobo]

So you cant reply with a knowledge of the law.
A black cop shot an unarmed white woman and you expect the Biden DOJ to do anything about it. This was a whitewash.
This is ow you reply with intelligence. You prove Babbit created an imminent threat to the cop who shot her.
He is indicted today for welfare fraud.
Heres the law and notice the fleeing suspect clause

Law enforcement officers, including local police and federal agents (e.g., DHS, DOJ), are governed by specific policies based on the U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court rulings such as Tennessee v. Garner and Graham v. Connor.

• Imminent Danger: Officers may use deadly force only when they have a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.
• Fleeing Suspects: Deadly force cannot be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. It is authorized only if the officer has probable cause to believe the suspect committed a violent felony involving serious harm and poses a significant, imminent threat to the community if not immediately apprehended.
• De-escalation and Alternatives: Federal and many local police policies emphasize using de-escalation tactics when feasible and using force only when no reasonably effective, safe, and feasible alternative appears to exist.
• Warning: When feasible, a verbal warning must be given before using deadly force.

Yup, it was a good kill. Israel bombs women and children because HAMAS hides behind them too.

Close your eyes grandpa. Imagine a bunch of Muslim's peacefully marched to the Capital the exact same way you guys did on Jan 6. How would that be received by Trump's government? I say he'd bring out the big guns and mow them all down. He would have sent in the national guard. How many would have died that day? And you would have said anyone who died in the commotion had it coming.

So **** off granny.

 

[pknopp]

Bravo, great job moving a two year old thread and not even understanding what it was about.

Now that McCarthy isn't around it's largely irrelevant, it was about McCarthy.

 

[sealybobo]

Bravo, great job moving a two year old thread and not even understanding what it was about.

Now that McCarthy isn't around it's largely irrelevant, it was about McCarthy.

Dude, you were making the exact same case I'm making today. Bravo to you!!!!!

If it was a white cop who shot a blm rioter, they would be defending the cop. But because it was a white MAGA Piggy, they think it's murder.

And today, they think that ICE agent was justified killing Nicole Good for speeding off on them rather than stopping. That was not a justified kill. Charges should be brought.

Did you guys know that all the people who investigate police shootings just quit in protest because no charges are going to be brought on the cop who shot Nicole Good? I mean, there wasn't even an investigation. Internal Affairs officers are NOT HAPPY about how we now handle police shootings. Almost as if they have a license to kill....liberals.

Federal prosecutors quit in protest over lack of investigation into ICE shooting​

Six lawyers from US attorney’s office in Minnesota quit along with four leaders of DoJ’s civil rights division

 

[Hafar1014]

Yup, it was a good kill. Israel bombs women and children because HAMAS hides behind them too.

Close your eyes grandpa. Imagine a bunch of Muslim's peacefully marched to the Capital the exact same way you guys did on Jan 6. How would that be received by Trump's government? I say he'd bring out the big guns and mow them all down. He would have sent in the national guard. How many would have died that day? And you would have said anyone who died in the commotion had it coming.

So **** off granny.

Now you change the subject not having an informed intelligent argument. Which demonstrates the mind of the left. Driven by feelings as apposed to facts and actual knowledge.
When trapped change the subject expand the issue to absurdity.
This is the same as childs tantrum.
I proved you wrong as well as ignorant for all to see.
This is too easy but I thank you for the opportunity