McCarthy And McConnell Pivot Slightly On The Jan 6 Commission!

[Sandy Shanks]

By inciting an insurrection against our government using radical far right groups loyal to him and causing the ransacking of the capitol, Trump is leading the Republican Party into the abyss.

Nothing from Republicans regarding this report (#21). Apparently they are unable to defend what their party is doing.

 

[Crepitus]

House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!

No.

Funny idea, forgive all the criminals so we can Investigate their crimes.

Lol.

 

[Crepitus]

The scumbags who entered the capital do not deserve the forgiveness of the country because very few of them feel bad about what they did. The ones who are charged with various crimes feel bad about going to jail and say they are sorry but I don't believe it for a minute. This shit will happen every time the right loses a presidential election unless we make a stand right here.

Nobody has been charged with anything more than the lowest level misdemeanors....So quit clutching the pearls.

Wrong. Over a hundred have been changed with assaulting police, a few have been changed with seditious conspiracy. More are being changed every day.

 

[Crepitus]

The scumbags who entered the capital do not deserve the forgiveness of the country because very few of them feel bad about what they did. The ones who are charged with various crimes feel bad about going to jail and say they are sorry but I don't believe it for a minute. This shit will happen every time the right loses a presidential election unless we make a stand right here.

LefTard Logic:

Scumbags-

Not Scumbags-

Please stop wondering why NOBODY decent, sane and paying attention takes you whack-jobs seriously.

We've already seen that post in at least two different threads. Tell your handlers to send you new instructions and material.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Borillar]

Remember when Republicans opposed the 9/11 Commission? I do.

Do you see Republicans today opposing a commission on the January 6th riot? I do.

Huh?

They were two different moments. One was being foreign terrorists wanting to blow up buildings and kill as many people as possible.
Only 5 people died during the "Insurrection". And only to those on the left and Dems were calling them "domestic Terrorists". If you want to go there with that, how about start labeling BLM and Antifa as domestic terrorists. As they are properly called.

The 9/11 Commission had many holes in it to begin with. As IF you didn't already know that.

Only four people died at Benghazi, and the repugs had a half dozen investigations unsuccessfully trying to pin blame on Hillary Clinton.

 

[OldLady]

The vote should happen any time now. I think they're shooting themselves in the foot by voting no, from what I hear. I wonder what the catch is?

I guess the Repubs are just going to discredit any investigation undertaken by the Dems and whine that it's a crooked witch hunt and fake news, per usual.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So far 35 Republicans have told McCarthy to go fuck himself and have voted for the commission.

Nice to see that not all of these people are craven sheep, afraid of an orange buffoon.

The Orange Buffoon is not who they need to fear.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

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The Left claimed we had 7 months of fiery, but mostly peaceful protests. Nobody wants an investigation on that. My grandmother left my sister some pearls. I can loan them to you to clutch. Just let me know.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Who gave the order to let the protesters in?

 

[bripat9643]

House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!

The last thing this country needs is another Democrat run witch hunt.

 

[Eyepublius]

January 6 insurrection on the nation's Capitol the arrests, etc., seen here from CBS News - a very good run down >>>

 

[Eyepublius]

Pivot my aching ass ... how about a full accounting - which to date We the People want and need and yes, demand, too:

A lot to unload here >>>

Peaceful tourists just wanting to visit the Capitol
(January 6, 2021)

 

[Eyepublius]

Interesting short clip here - on Vladimir Putin from the BBC:

 

[task0778]

I guess the Repubs are just going to discredit any investigation undertaken by the Dems and whine that it's a crooked witch hunt and fake news, per usual.

Which it is, a crooked witch hunt that the democrats will exploit for as long as they can, and this 'investigation' would allow them to do so for a lot longer. This isn't about law and order, this is about the democrats' penchant to weaponize our justice system for their political purposes/gain.

What we have here is a group of people who broke the law and are now facing prosecution in court for it. Which as far as I know has not yet risen to the level of "insurrection", "treason", or anything close to that. And as far as I know there is no evidence that Trump or anyone else associated with him had anything to do with that event. NOTHING. If there was, you can bet your ass the media would be highlight it in the largest font they have and talking about nothing else for months. That is today's reality: Fuck Trump any which way you can.

And there is already an ongoing investigation(s) by the appropriate LE agencies, are there not? So, absent the political aspect, there is no gain whatsoever for a commission that will arrive at 2 different reports: one by the democrats that alleges but does not prove misconduct or involvement by Trump or his associates that is similar in vein to the Mueller Report on Russian Collusion, and another one by the Repubs on committee that discredits the democrats' report. And back and forth they'll go about it, all next year.

And so, just what we need, yet another example of partisan bullshit. They're not going to prove anything, and they're not going to unearth any new information. My guess is that the committee democrats will look for any Trump associate they can squeeze really hard to admit to something that is illegal or immoral, maybe even something they didn't even do. How? By threatening them with financial ruin or by threatening a family member with other investigations, like they did with Gen Flynn.

Let me briefly explain how the justice system is supposed to work. If a person is suspected of a crime, you're supposed to have some evidence that they did indeed commit that crime. And it can't be a bullshit opposition hit piece inspired by and paid for by the democrats or those close to them. It should have some credence to it and it should be verified; IOW, you don't go looking for a crime that you can pin on somebody. So let's not pretend that the democrats are looking for justice here, okay? They're looking for any dirt on Trump and co. and they want to do it on our dime and on our time.