McCarthy And McConnell Pivot Slightly On The Jan 6 Commission!

JimofPennsylvan

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House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!
 
The scumbags who entered the capital do not deserve the forgiveness of the country because very few of them feel bad about what they did. The ones who are charged with various crimes feel bad about going to jail and say they are sorry but I don't believe it for a minute. This shit will happen every time the right loses a presidential election unless we make a stand right here.
 
House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!

Most of the insurrectionists are going to get charged with trespassing, and most won't spend time in prison.

But they're not the focus of the commission.
 
The scumbags who entered the capital do not deserve the forgiveness of the country because very few of them feel bad about what they did. The ones who are charged with various crimes feel bad about going to jail and say they are sorry but I don't believe it for a minute. This shit will happen every time the right loses a presidential election unless we make a stand right here.
Nobody has been charged with anything more than the lowest level misdemeanors....So quit clutching the pearls.
 
House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!
Why are we entertaining this BULLSHIT? If someone broke the law, prosecute them. Enough with the political theater at our expense.
 
House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!
Doubt that will fly....Nobody wants it to be discovered that the INSEWRECKSHUN! was a false flag caused by Pantifa/BLM rabble rousers.
 
Oddball said:
Nobody has been charged with anything more than the lowest level misdemeanors....So quit clutching the pearls.
American white supremacy at work.
 
House Minority Leader McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader McConnell should tweak their position on the Jan. 6 Commission they should say that they will support the establishment of the Commission if the Attorney General makes a legally binding commitment to not bring any criminal charges against any protestors at the Capitol on Jan. 6th even if they trespassed at the Capitol even if they engaged in physical altercation with the Capitol or DC police unless they either stole property at the Capitol or caused serious bodily injury to such a security officer and the list of security officers that suffered such bodily harm will be publicly disclosed at least to the extent that the location of the assault and the nature of the assault will be disclosed so a protestor will be able to determine if it is safe from a risking prosecution standpoint to come forward and participate with the commission. If President Biden pardons these protestors that were not the worst of the bunch that should suffice as meeting this condition for these Republican leaders. The only other conditions the Republicans should set on changing the current legislation establishing the commission is if there is not the set forth time limits on the commission there should be set forth the time limits as such the subpoena power in the legislation expires on Dec. 31 of this year and the commission has sixty days to write and publish their report any publication after this date is not deemed a legitimate report; the American people don't need this commission working into the midterm election cycle next year that would be too disruptive!

The reason why the country needs to waive criminal liability for a lot of the protestors is that if the Commission is really to serve the American people it needs to get to the truth of what happened at the Capitol on January 6th was it a premeditated plan to hijack the Country's legal mechanism for certifying the Electoral College vote and disregard the legitimate vote and substitute the conspirators' candidate as the winner of the Electoral College vote or was it a massive protest against the official count of the Electoral College because of the belief of fraud involved in specific state elections a protest that morphed into a violent mob that then committed the acts seen widespread on TV and shocked people throughout the world! No lawyer that deserves to hold his or her law license is going to let a protestor talk to the commission or it's staff under the current state of things because such a protestor would be at risk of criminal prosecution based on what they say they could be providing to the government incriminating evidence against themselves. The way things stand right now is that this current bill could pass both chambers by Wednesday of next week and the established commission could make a good faith effort to do a thorough investigation and the nation would be no closer to being exactly sure of what happened on Jan. 6 because the actual protesters don't participate in very significant numbers. To be crass what the nation is looking at right now with the current state of this bill if it passes is that for the next nine months of this commission's life the country is going to be subjected to an exercise of politics on the Jan 6 incident. Democrat appointees and the allies will label the actions as an insurrection that violated the nation's 250 year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power and the Republican appointees and their allies will continually put forth that this incident was a byproduct of a huge portion of the American people that believe that for this election the liberal Democrats stole the election from the Republicans to advance their scary liberal agenda which is going to ultimately raise taxes on everyone, increase interest rates and devalue the dollar leaving America as a second rate country economically! Investigative commissions should be about getting to the bottom of things, about discovering the actual truth of what happened, this bill the insurrection label waving politicians are currently cooking up in Washington actually won't, actually has no chance of success and helping to heal the nation!
Protesters? Since protesting is not against the law. why would nonviolent protesters need any kind of legal protection from prosecution?

You're basically talking about transactional or blanket immunity from prosecution, right? Do you know the circumstances under which the gov't generally grants immunity? it's when a smaller fish give up a bigger fish. An example of that might be when a contract killer, for a reduced sentence, gives up the name of the person who hired him to kill the murder victim.

Now, my gut tells me that the Trump people were in fairly close contact with the Proud Boys and others who were more organized in the assault on the Capitol than the average Trump supporters who showed up and get swept up in events.

Having said that, the only way that >I< could support any kind of individual immunity is if they gave up the bigger fish.
 
Remember when Republicans opposed the 9/11 Commission? I do.

Do you see Republicans today opposing a commission on the January 6th riot? I do.

Further proof that one thing criminals hate is sunlight. Same with cockroaches.
 
Remember when Republicans opposed the 9/11 Commission? I do.

Do you see Republicans today opposing a commission on the January 6th riot? I do.

Huh? :oops:

They were two different moments. One was being foreign terrorists wanting to blow up buildings and kill as many people as possible.
Only 5 people died during the "Insurrection". And only to those on the left and Dems were calling them "domestic Terrorists". If you want to go there with that, how about start labeling BLM and Antifa as domestic terrorists. As they are properly called.

The 9/11 Commission had many holes in it to begin with. As IF you didn't already know that.

:rolleyes:
 
Remember when Republicans opposed the 9/11 Commission? I do.

Do you see Republicans today opposing a commission on the January 6th riot? I do.

Further proof that one thing criminals hate is sunlight. Same with cockroaches.
Amazing how modern day technology works.
 
It's amazing that they'd go all out on the AZ audit , because they want to know the truth and get the issue settled, but when it comes to 1/6, it's "hey, wait a minute".
what is the US Congress doing about the AZ Audit?

and why do they have to get involved in a DOJ Criminal probe?
 
Bush-Cheney were right to oppose the 9/11 Commission. The Democrats wanted it merely as a platform to GET Bush-Cheney, smear Condoleeza Rice, and protect the corrupt Jamie Gorelick. They still managed to fuck it up when their NSA director got caught stealing documents .... shoving them down his pants to be specific.
 
The scumbags who entered the capital do not deserve the forgiveness of the country because very few of them feel bad about what they did. The ones who are charged with various crimes feel bad about going to jail and say they are sorry but I don't believe it for a minute. This shit will happen every time the right loses a presidential election unless we make a stand right here.
LefTard Logic:

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Please stop wondering why NOBODY decent, sane and paying attention takes you whack-jobs seriously.
 

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