...May 1st, Osama Bin Laden....

[Chillicothe]

I have no idea if or how many on this message board saw the gripping reportage by Politico of the oral accounts of the principals engaged in the Bin Laden hunt and killing.

I just read it tonight.
It is a long investment in time and attention.
In my opinion, it was worth it. I'm glad I saw it and decided to open it.

What it is ...is a compilation of personal recollections by people-in-the-know of how it came down 10yrs ago yesterday.

It is an engaging....but long......account.

10yrs later it still makes us Americans proud.
(when I return from the farm tomorrow the bride and me will scroll up Zero Dark Thirty on some service and watch it again.)

I know well, this is a l-o-n-g read. Still, I would recommend just opening it up and reading a handful of the accounts. Maybe it'll pique your interest and you'll go for the deep dive.

Here it is (it's free):

‘I’d Never Been Involved in Anything as Secret as This’

The plan to kill Osama bin Laden—from the spycraft to the assault to its bizarre political backdrop—as told by the people in the room.

www.politico.com

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Trump got rid of ISIS and Soleimaini, and we never hear of this. If Obozo had done that, it would STILL be headlining the "news"!!!

 

[the other mike]

Who knows what really happened ?

 

[easyt65]

It is on record that Biden was against the raid that resulted in UBL being killed, sticking to the pattern of being wrong about every foreign policy decision he has ever made.

 

[easyt65]

Of course Biden's reaction / response to the raid was not as bad as Hillary's:

 

[Rigby5]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

1. We don't need to know down to the minutiae as to bin Laden's every dictate and plans. He and his al Qaeda followers admitted the 9 /11 terrorist planning and attack. Just because he sat back after planning and funding it, but didn't get on one of the planes, doesn't make him less guilty. The successful attack on our World Trade Center Buildings, only emboldened the Islamic fundamentalists.
2. Just as when he was in Afghanistan, Pakistan knew where he was and didn't care.
Fundamental Islamists are fanatics about their religion and absolutely dangerous to any and all non-believers.
When we found out that he was in Afghanistan, our government requested the Afghanistan government arrest him and turn him over to the US. As the custom of Afghani's is to protect guests, they refused and issued a challenge to our government....."come and get him." Thus, off we went to Afghanistan. As the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is extremely porous, he and his followers, casually went back and forth across the border regions, unimpeded.
Many in the Pakistani government knew where he was when in their nation, but didn't give a damn and weren't about to tell our infidel government. So, we couldn't rely on the government to help, we needed a Pakistani spy, enter the doctor who lived in the community where Bin Laden was staying.
If some fanatic killed the most precious people to you and was hiding out in a nation that you knew wouldn't help you and he had no intention of traveling to nations that might cooperate, arrest and hold him until the US picked him up, you would want some action to be taken.
He killed over 3,000 people, a mixture of individuals from various nations and they all wanted that man and his followers, dead or alive, many preferring, dead.
Their disposal of his body was an excellent method, that way they had no body, travel to and pray over.
As to who else was involved, we know who the number two person is, but he remains out of reach.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

The guy was supposedly the "Mastetmind", but instead of capturing him and getting him to talk, we kill him?

It's not a smart move and probably total BS

 

[surada]

Trump got rid of ISIS and Soleimaini, and we never hear of this. If Obozo had done that, it would STILL be headlining the "news"!!!

Soleimani was the go to negotiator for the problem of Iran support of the al Houthis.

 

[surada]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

1. We don't need to know down to the minutiae as to bin Laden's every dictate and plans. He and his al Qaeda followers admitted the 9 /11 terrorist planning and attack. Just because he sat back after planning and funding it, but didn't get on one of the planes, doesn't make him less guilty. The successful attack on our World Trade Center Buildings, only emboldened the Islamic fundamentalists.
2. Just as when he was in Afghanistan, Pakistan knew where he was and didn't care.
Fundamental Islamists are fanatics about their religion and absolutely dangerous to any and all non-believers.
When we found out that he was in Afghanistan, our government requested the Afghanistan government arrest him and turn him over to the US. As the custom of Afghani's is to protect guests, they refused and issued a challenge to our government....."come and get him." Thus, off we went to Afghanistan. As the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is extremely porous, he and his followers, casually went back and forth across the border regions, unimpeded.
Many in the Pakistani government knew where he was when in their nation, but didn't give a damn and weren't about to tell our infidel government. So, we couldn't rely on the government to help, we needed a Pakistani spy, enter the doctor who lived in the community where Bin Laden was staying.
If some fanatic killed the most precious people to you and was hiding out in a nation that you knew wouldn't help you and he had no intention of traveling to nations that might cooperate, arrest and hold him until the US picked him up, you would want some action to be taken.
He killed over 3,000 people, a mixture of individuals from various nations and they all wanted that man and his followers, dead or alive, many preferring, dead.
Their disposal of his body was an excellent method, that way they had no body, travel to and pray over.
As to who else was involved, we know who the number two person is, but he remains out of reach.

The Taliban asked for proof that OBL was guilty before they would turn him over to the US.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

1. We don't need to know down to the minutiae as to bin Laden's every dictate and plans. He and his al Qaeda followers admitted the 9 /11 terrorist planning and attack. Just because he sat back after planning and funding it, but didn't get on one of the planes, doesn't make him less guilty. The successful attack on our World Trade Center Buildings, only emboldened the Islamic fundamentalists.
2. Just as when he was in Afghanistan, Pakistan knew where he was and didn't care.
Fundamental Islamists are fanatics about their religion and absolutely dangerous to any and all non-believers.
When we found out that he was in Afghanistan, our government requested the Afghanistan government arrest him and turn him over to the US. As the custom of Afghani's is to protect guests, they refused and issued a challenge to our government....."come and get him." Thus, off we went to Afghanistan. As the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is extremely porous, he and his followers, casually went back and forth across the border regions, unimpeded.
Many in the Pakistani government knew where he was when in their nation, but didn't give a damn and weren't about to tell our infidel government. So, we couldn't rely on the government to help, we needed a Pakistani spy, enter the doctor who lived in the community where Bin Laden was staying.
If some fanatic killed the most precious people to you and was hiding out in a nation that you knew wouldn't help you and he had no intention of traveling to nations that might cooperate, arrest and hold him until the US picked him up, you would want some action to be taken.
He killed over 3,000 people, a mixture of individuals from various nations and they all wanted that man and his followers, dead or alive, many preferring, dead.
Their disposal of his body was an excellent method, that way they had no body, travel to and pray over.
As to who else was involved, we know who the number two person is, but he remains out of reach.

The Taliban asked for proof that OBL was guilty before they would turn him over to the US.

If you will recall, he was interviewed in front of a Camera and admitted responsibility:
His reason, Infidels were in his sacred nation of Saudi Arabia (we were there at the request of the Saudi government). He has also said he could not sleep until there were no more Infidels (that was per his followers).

 

[surada]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

1. We don't need to know down to the minutiae as to bin Laden's every dictate and plans. He and his al Qaeda followers admitted the 9 /11 terrorist planning and attack. Just because he sat back after planning and funding it, but didn't get on one of the planes, doesn't make him less guilty. The successful attack on our World Trade Center Buildings, only emboldened the Islamic fundamentalists.
2. Just as when he was in Afghanistan, Pakistan knew where he was and didn't care.
Fundamental Islamists are fanatics about their religion and absolutely dangerous to any and all non-believers.
When we found out that he was in Afghanistan, our government requested the Afghanistan government arrest him and turn him over to the US. As the custom of Afghani's is to protect guests, they refused and issued a challenge to our government....."come and get him." Thus, off we went to Afghanistan. As the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is extremely porous, he and his followers, casually went back and forth across the border regions, unimpeded.
Many in the Pakistani government knew where he was when in their nation, but didn't give a damn and weren't about to tell our infidel government. So, we couldn't rely on the government to help, we needed a Pakistani spy, enter the doctor who lived in the community where Bin Laden was staying.
If some fanatic killed the most precious people to you and was hiding out in a nation that you knew wouldn't help you and he had no intention of traveling to nations that might cooperate, arrest and hold him until the US picked him up, you would want some action to be taken.
He killed over 3,000 people, a mixture of individuals from various nations and they all wanted that man and his followers, dead or alive, many preferring, dead.
Their disposal of his body was an excellent method, that way they had no body, travel to and pray over.
As to who else was involved, we know who the number two person is, but he remains out of reach.

The Taliban asked for proof that OBL was guilty before they would turn him over to the US.

If you will recall, he was interviewed in front of a Camera and admitted responsibility:
His reason, Infidels were in his sacred nation of Saudi Arabia (we were there at the request of the Saudi government). He has also said he could not sleep until there were no more Infidels (that was per his followers).

Obama's family became very rich because of the infidels in Arabia.. OBL had taken up the beliefs of Sayeed Qubt and Hassan al Banna which were banned in the early 1970s when the Muslim Brotherhood was expelled from Arabia. In 1994 the SAG revoked OBL's citizenship so he was out to punish the US and the kingdom.

 

[Thinker101]

Dang, is this where some of you loons break out in song?

 

[LuckyDuck]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

1. We don't need to know down to the minutiae as to bin Laden's every dictate and plans. He and his al Qaeda followers admitted the 9 /11 terrorist planning and attack. Just because he sat back after planning and funding it, but didn't get on one of the planes, doesn't make him less guilty. The successful attack on our World Trade Center Buildings, only emboldened the Islamic fundamentalists.
2. Just as when he was in Afghanistan, Pakistan knew where he was and didn't care.
Fundamental Islamists are fanatics about their religion and absolutely dangerous to any and all non-believers.
When we found out that he was in Afghanistan, our government requested the Afghanistan government arrest him and turn him over to the US. As the custom of Afghani's is to protect guests, they refused and issued a challenge to our government....."come and get him." Thus, off we went to Afghanistan. As the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is extremely porous, he and his followers, casually went back and forth across the border regions, unimpeded.
Many in the Pakistani government knew where he was when in their nation, but didn't give a damn and weren't about to tell our infidel government. So, we couldn't rely on the government to help, we needed a Pakistani spy, enter the doctor who lived in the community where Bin Laden was staying.
If some fanatic killed the most precious people to you and was hiding out in a nation that you knew wouldn't help you and he had no intention of traveling to nations that might cooperate, arrest and hold him until the US picked him up, you would want some action to be taken.
He killed over 3,000 people, a mixture of individuals from various nations and they all wanted that man and his followers, dead or alive, many preferring, dead.
Their disposal of his body was an excellent method, that way they had no body, travel to and pray over.
As to who else was involved, we know who the number two person is, but he remains out of reach.

The Taliban asked for proof that OBL was guilty before they would turn him over to the US.

If you will recall, he was interviewed in front of a Camera and admitted responsibility:
His reason, Infidels were in his sacred nation of Saudi Arabia (we were there at the request of the Saudi government). He has also said he could not sleep until there were no more Infidels (that was per his followers).

Obama's family became very rich because of the infidels in Arabia.. OBL had taken up the beliefs of Sayeed Qubt and Hassan al Banna which were banned in the early 1970s when the Muslim Brotherhood was expelled from Arabia. In 1994 the SAG revoked OBL's citizenship so he was out to punish the US and the kingdom.

The Saudis banned the Muslim Brotherhood because they were deemed a threat to the Monarchy, not because of their overall beliefs. Wahhabism is the strictest form of Islam, so it wasn't their beliefs, but the Saudi alliance with Infidels that was problematic.

 

[surada]

Killing Obama was a huge mistake because we want to not only know what really happened, but also who else was a threat.
Killing someone who is not actively engages in anything, is a waste of time.
Nor was it legal, since we violated the sovereign rights of Pakistan.
Seems more like a cover up.

1. We don't need to know down to the minutiae as to bin Laden's every dictate and plans. He and his al Qaeda followers admitted the 9 /11 terrorist planning and attack. Just because he sat back after planning and funding it, but didn't get on one of the planes, doesn't make him less guilty. The successful attack on our World Trade Center Buildings, only emboldened the Islamic fundamentalists.
2. Just as when he was in Afghanistan, Pakistan knew where he was and didn't care.
Fundamental Islamists are fanatics about their religion and absolutely dangerous to any and all non-believers.
When we found out that he was in Afghanistan, our government requested the Afghanistan government arrest him and turn him over to the US. As the custom of Afghani's is to protect guests, they refused and issued a challenge to our government....."come and get him." Thus, off we went to Afghanistan. As the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is extremely porous, he and his followers, casually went back and forth across the border regions, unimpeded.
Many in the Pakistani government knew where he was when in their nation, but didn't give a damn and weren't about to tell our infidel government. So, we couldn't rely on the government to help, we needed a Pakistani spy, enter the doctor who lived in the community where Bin Laden was staying.
If some fanatic killed the most precious people to you and was hiding out in a nation that you knew wouldn't help you and he had no intention of traveling to nations that might cooperate, arrest and hold him until the US picked him up, you would want some action to be taken.
He killed over 3,000 people, a mixture of individuals from various nations and they all wanted that man and his followers, dead or alive, many preferring, dead.
Their disposal of his body was an excellent method, that way they had no body, travel to and pray over.
As to who else was involved, we know who the number two person is, but he remains out of reach.

The Taliban asked for proof that OBL was guilty before they would turn him over to the US.

If you will recall, he was interviewed in front of a Camera and admitted responsibility:
His reason, Infidels were in his sacred nation of Saudi Arabia (we were there at the request of the Saudi government). He has also said he could not sleep until there were no more Infidels (that was per his followers).

Obama's family became very rich because of the infidels in Arabia.. OBL had taken up the beliefs of Sayeed Qubt and Hassan al Banna which were banned in the early 1970s when the Muslim Brotherhood was expelled from Arabia. In 1994 the SAG revoked OBL's citizenship so he was out to punish the US and the kingdom.

The Saudis banned the Muslim Brotherhood because they were deemed a threat to the Monarchy, not because of their overall beliefs. Wahhabism is the strictest form of Islam, so it wasn't their beliefs, but the Saudi alliance with Infidels that was problematic.

You should probably read the Wahhabi Myth. OBL was Deobandi.