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Mauna Loa shows that reducing economic Activity has NO EFFECT on CO2

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Extremes are cute, but using them as a talking point is dumb. CO2 in our atmosphere is a trace element
So if it doubles what will the effect be and how do you know?
He's pointing out your logical fallacy. If sea level rise was a problem these rich people wouldn't be buying coastal properties.
NYC is spending $1 billion to protect a small part of the city because a lot of rich companies and people live there. We just spent $15 billion to protect New Orleans. A billion here, a billion there, and it starts to add up to real money.
 

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The rich never are. Funny how in order for them to be able to enjoy lives of luxury the poor and the middle class are forced to live lives of misery..

Interesting.
It has always been that way and the cause of social revolutions.
 

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I've already seen plenty of science fiction become reality.
Controlling earth's climate is a fairy tale. Thinking that man is capable of controlling nature is the height of arrogance.
 

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It has always been that way and the cause of social revolutions.
You do realize that the poorest of Americans are relatively wealthy compared to the poorest of the world, right?

Rising tides raise all ships. It is an error in perception that sees the good as bad.
 

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We just spent $15 billion to protect New Orleans.

They're below sea level and we stopped the Mississippi from replenishing the wetlands and marshes. Nothing to do with global warming or sea level rise.
 

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Controlling earth's climate is a fairy tale. Thinking that man is capable of controlling nature is the height of arrogance.
You couldn't be more wrong since it is exactly what man does. He mastered fire and moved from his home in the tropics to the arctic. He built canals and made the desert bloom.
 

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You do realize that the poorest of Americans are relatively wealthy compared to the poorest of the world, right?

Rising tides raise all ships. It is an error in perception that sees the good as bad.
I don't disagree but we how we perceive the world is how we react to it.
 

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True.

Unless warming seas intensify hurricanes. There appears to be evidence that is exactly what is happening.



They don't. Take a look at the tropics. Lots of rain, mild storms. The warmest region on the planet.

Bad storms are created by the mixing of warm and COLD air.

It's the cold air that makes bad storms.
 
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I did. I took a trip to Iceland and touched a glacier that has receded thousands of meters in recorded history, most in the last 50 years. That water is now in the ocean.
I live in NY which was under a mile of ice 12,000 years ago. I like this better.

Earth was never a static place of no ice melting
 

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You couldn't be more wrong since it is exactly what man does. He mastered fire and moved from his home in the tropics to the arctic. He built canals and made the desert bloom.
That's protecting himself from nature that's not controlling nature.
 

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I don't disagree but we how we perceive the world is how we react to it.
The world is what the world is. If our perceptions are anything other than what the world actually is those perceptions are subjective due to bias.
 

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That's protecting himself from nature that's not controlling nature.

Come on, man!

When you turn your thermostat up or down, that's exactly like heating or cooling nature.
 

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They don't. Take a look at the tropics. Lots of rain, mild storms. The warmest region on the planet.

Bad storms are created by the mixing of warm and COLD air.

It's the cold air that makes bad storms.
That's a new one on me. All our hurricanes start over the warm mid-Atlantic and maintain their energy over the Gulf. Where is this cold air?
 

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That's protecting himself from nature that's not controlling nature.
How often does the Nile flood these days? When was the last time the Mississippi had a major course change?
 

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How often does the Nile flood these days? When was the last time the Mississippi had a major course change?
Don't know much about the Nile but they dredge the Mississippi so that it doesn't change course to Morgan City which is where it WILL eventually go despite man's best efforts to deny nature. It's not a question of if but when.

It's really a question of math. Mother Nature has a tremendous resource of energy she can throw at us. The energy we can expend is limited by money.
 

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