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Mass Deportation is NOT new, Bill Clinton deported 12,000,000 and democrats were supportive. (Poll)
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imawhosure
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You say what? Now I know you listen to and spew, Leftist PROPAGANDA, with a high degree of massive SPIN!
My fellow CONSERVATIVES, watch out for this ridiculous spin by the LEFT, lol.
To understand how devoid of weight their/JoeB1312 debate point is, all we need do is go back a little in history........ain't that right JOE-)
Yes my friends, let us step back to an earlier time, like November of 1992.........ya like Dat Jose', AKA Joe?!?!?!?!
So what happened in November of 1992? Well Jose' may not tell you, but I certainly will. Mr William, Jefferson, Clinton.......you know, Mr Cigar, got 370 ELECTORAL votes.....oh yes he did. This is why today, he is the godfather of the Democratic Party. But guess what my friends, he only received 43% of the vote. Let me spell that for you, just in case Joe or MACAFLOOZY won't------>forty-three-percent of the total vote-) In essence, he got smoked out, and yet......Leftists see him as the GODFATHER, lol.
But wait........he got RE-ELECTED in 96. Guess what, hehehehehehehe. He didn't get the popular vote then either, if you use Joses' (AKA, JoeB) way of counting again. Doubt me? Look it up, hehehehehehehe.
So, what Joe and the Leftist crew are doing is SPINNING........spinning as fast as they can to convince you that somehow, their peeps didn't get smoked in November. Hell, they won't even tell you that TRUMP won AOCs district, which makes her a prime target in 26........now will you Joe/Berg/Floozy/Fort fu**edup in indiana/mammymamooth, and the rest of these phonies.
Let me be the 1st to tell everyone that the main target in the Trump cabinet changes quickly........because they are all good for America.........but the number 1 NEED TO GET RID OF as of today for Leftists.....is NOT Pam Bondi, nope, nope. Is NOT Lee Zeldin, nada, nope, forget about it. In fact, Tulsi Gabbard has even fallen off the radar along with RFK, as the person who WILL bring all the Leftists down.......and they know it........was nominated for a position.
And who/whom would that be? You want to tell them Jose/Berg/Mammymamooth/Forfu**edup in indiana/or of course, the know all, see all.......MACAFLOOZY?!?!?!?! Don't want to tell them do ya-) Then let me! Kash Patel-) Look up what he did, what he said, what he proved, and what he wrote.
And guess what........THEY WILL BE FORCED TO CONFIRM HIM! Why? Because if they have senate hearings, everything is going to come out what these BRILLIANT LEFTISTS did, hehehehehe. He is going to sing in front of the whole country, and has evidence to back it up to boot. In other words-------->the Left is stuck between a rock and a hard place; which is EXACTLY where we want them to be.
Now the Left is going to say it ain't so, but here is the political reality-------> they can CONFIRM him then try and screw him afterwards....OR......they can let it all come out in the hearings in front of the American people what they did, and the proof that he and his colleagues have, of exactly WHAT THEY DID DO! This will lead to those on high in the DNC at best getting removed; at worst, getting prosecuted.
LEFTISTS, if you do not closely follow politics and just parrot your party leaders, you are GOING TO BE SHOCKED, and in for a rude awakening-) Because nobody.....or few people like your politics, it is now open season on YOUR SIDE! And guess what.......many.....many....many of them, have a whole lot to hide. I don't know about you, but I can not wait as it will be a bigger SHOCK to you Leftists, than Kammy losing the election! And your defense will be?!?!?!?!?! ORANGE MAN BAD, lololol. Good luck with that!
JoeB131
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You can go on all day, but the reality is, a dumb law deserves to be broken.
This is a dumb law.
Only reason it went down was because Covid hit. Unless you want to give Trump the blame for Covid.
JoeB131
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Okay, a couple of points here.
The first is that 1992 (and 1996) were three-way races. So while Clinton only got 43% of the vote, it was a dominating performance in that he won states like CALIFORNIA that the Democrats hadn't won since 1964.
Actually, he got 49.2% of the vote, which is better than either Dole or Perot.
Actually, you seem to have issues with number. Harris won AOC's district 65- 33. While this was not as good as Biden's 77-22, it was still respectable. AOC won the district with about 70% of the vote.
AOC’s district saw massive shift to Trump during presidential election
Voters in the Dem pol’s district saw one of the largest rightward shifts among congressional districts citywide compared to the 2020 election.
nypost.com
I think you need to research your points before you make them.
This is all meaningless, of course. The GOP will take a pounding in the midterms because the out-of-power party always does.
Yeah, Kash Patel is a pretty awful choice, and I suspect even Republicans will balk at appointing him. You see, the same GOP that went to the mattresses for the FBI over Waco aren't going put in someone with no law enforcement experience to break things at the FBI.
imawhosure
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Jose, you really have to do better. I know it is hard, but try, please-)
You want to BREAK THE LAW instead of change it? Really?!?!?!?! I suggest you scream this from the mountain tops. Want a script; we can do that for you, lol.
Tell all these nice people how it is REASONABLE, and all REASONABLE people, would rather break the law, instead of fix it. GO AHEAD SUPERSTAR, explain!
I know, and we both know I know, and almost everyone else knows reading this, that you are blowing proverbial phony-baloney smoke out your a**.
Hey Chicago DUFFUSS.......it is NOT working, lol. You really are screwed.....you/theberghoff/macafloozy/mammymamooth/fortfu**edupinindiana/along with the mighty G, lol.
I know you will not answer this.........but after all these months and years, how does it feel to have our proverbial foot kicking your a**es to the curb!
You think it can NOT get worse, lol. Just wait, you ain't seen nothin yet-)
/—-/ “dumb law deserves to be broken.”
I can’t believe you said that. If you don’t like the law, change it.
JoeB131
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Sure. People break this law all the time.
Every time a factory or farm owner hires some undocumented workers.
Or some rich Yuppie hires Lupe to raise his kids, and she's just like a member of the family, which is why they don't file her taxes.
Or some Twit hires a bunch of day-laborers from outside the Home Depot because that DIY project turned out to be harder work than they made it look like on HGTV. (Damn you, Chip and Joana, with your deceptive editing.)
Oh, it will get worse when Trump ratfucks the economy.
But buyer's remorse is already setting in...
We've been trying to change the laws for 20 years. Even George W. Bush realized the laws were stupid and tried to change them.
/——/ “Oh, it will get worse when Trump ratfucks the economy.
But buyer's remorse is already setting in”
The latest sore loser rant from LiberalPropagandaville.
JoeB131
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Just being a call of reality. 49.9% isn't a mandate, and voters will suddenly realize what a mistake they made.
JoeB131
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Within six months, Trump will have a "Wrong track number just as high.
In fact, even before Trump criminally mishandled Covid, you got this.
Poll: Majority of Americans Say the U.S. Is Headed in the Wrong Direction Under President Trump
Only 28 percent of respondents said the U.S. is headed in the right direction
Only 28 percent of respondents said the U.S. is headed in the right direction — the lowest percentage on that question during Trump’s term. By contrast, 63 percent believe the country is on the wrong track, tied with December 2017 for the highest since Trump took office.
Methinks that the TDS democrats doth protest too much...
Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything
President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. "You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out," he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.www.cnn.com
Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything
"According to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, more than 12 million people were “deported” – either removed or returned – from the US during the Clinton administration. More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration. Far fewer – more than 5 million – were removed or returned during the Obama administration."
Here are the removal totals by president:
Clinton removed 12,000,000
Bush removed 10,000,000
Obama removed 5,000,000
Trump-45 removed 1,500,000
Biden released 12,000,000 into the US
Trump-47 plans to remove 11,000,00. (less than Bill Clinton)
Why deportations actually dropped in Trump’s first term
"During his first term, Trump also promised mass deportations. And he did deport a large number of people – more than 1.5 million – during his four years in office, according to Kathleen Bush-Joseph, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute.
Creating a system of camps to accommodate some portion of the more than 11 million people Trump says he wants to deport would dwarf the current total federal and state prison population, to say nothing of the cost of detaining so many people while they have their day in court. “The idea that they’re going to be able to quickly set up the infrastructure to carry out deportations by the millions is just fantasy thinking,” Bier told me.
So how did Bill Clinton deport 12,000,000 illegals while not making anyone's radar?
Can Trump use the same deportation method used by Bill Clinton?
JoeB131
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Not sure what your point is here.
The ironic thing is that Slick Willy caused the problem by signing NAFTA.
NAFTA opened the Mexican market to cheap, government-subsidized American Yellow Corn, which displaced the farmers of traditional Mexican White Corn.
This has little to do with the current crisis. Mexican agriculture has switched to other produce (60% of vegetables sold in US Markets come from Mexico) and enough industrial jobs have been created to create economic opportunity in Mexico.
The crisis we have now is people are streaming in from Haiti, Central America, and Venezuela, all countries where where have screwed them economically over the years.
kyzr
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I'll take that 6-month bet. Trump's right-track number should be well above 50%.
The MSM's 93% negative bias against Trump voided that 1st term number.
I'm curious to see if the MSM's anti-Trump bias is any less during his "mandated" 2nd term.
The public now sees the MSM propaganda for what it is.
JoeB131
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Nope, we've been over this, Stupid.
No president has EVER had a better second term than his first term.
JoeB131
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Uh, guy, other than a post-covid funk, the economy is in pretty good shape.
Just went on a job hunt, was able to land a new gig in less than a month of searching.
We have millions of unfilled jobs in this country.
kyzr
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CNN disagrees with you. Do you have a link proving otherwise?
Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything
President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. "You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out," he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.
www.cnn.com
Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything
"According to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, more than 12 million people were “deported” – either removed or returned – from the US during the Clinton administration. More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration. Far fewer – more than 5 million – were removed or returned during the Obama administration."
JoeB131
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Ah, you are being disingenuous again.
Of those "12 million:, 11 million were apprehensions at the Mexican border who were immediately returned.
Actual REMOVALS under Slick Willy - tracking down someone who had lived here for years was only 869K.
It should be pointed out that the removals/returns under Clinton were almost exclusively Mexicans, and we have an agreement with Mexico to take back their citizens.
Same thing with Bush. Of the 10 million he "deported," 8 million were border apprehensions. 2 million were removed from the interior.
Now, the problem with Obama is that the number of border apprehensions dropped. Partially, it was because Mexicans were finding plenty of work in Mexico, and partially, it was because people from other countries transiting through Mexico figured out the asylum policy. (It helps that most of them come from countries we declared Human Rights Abusers).
This is why walls won't work. Trump is trying to fix the 2020 immigration problem with a 1990's tactic. The immigrants aren't sneaking across the border; they are walking up to a checkpoint and requesting asylum. The problem is that Trump so badly dismantled the asylum system that instead of having their cases resolved in 180 days as required by law, they can wait for years and years.
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