Mass Deportation is NOT new, Bill Clinton deported 12,000,000 and democrats were supportive. (Poll)

[kyzr]

Ah, you are being disingenuous again.

Of those "12 million:, 11 million were apprehensions at the Mexican border who were immediately returned.

Actual REMOVALS under Slick Willy - tracking down someone who had lived here for years was only 869K.

It should be pointed out that the removals/returns under Clinton were almost exclusively Mexicans, and we have an agreement with Mexico to take back their citizens.

Same thing with Bush. Of the 10 million he "deported," 8 million were border apprehensions. 2 million were removed from the interior.

Now, the problem with Obama is that the number of border apprehensions dropped. Partially, it was because Mexicans were finding plenty of work in Mexico, and partially, it was because people from other countries transiting through Mexico figured out the asylum policy. (It helps that most of them come from countries we declared Human Rights Abusers).

This is why walls won't work. Trump is trying to fix the 2020 immigration problem with a 1990's tactic. The immigrants aren't sneaking across the border; they are walking up to a checkpoint and requesting asylum. The problem is that Trump so badly dismantled the asylum system that instead of having their cases resolved in 180 days as required by law, they can wait for years and years.

Stop trying to redefine "deportation" or "removal".
1. A removal is court ordered.
2. A deportation is when an illegal has no passport and cannot prove he needs asylum.

The fact that 12,000,000 illegals were deported under Clinton for entering illegally is not debatable.

I'm not sure what all is included in HR-2 but I'm pretty sure expedited removals is included. There are about 2,000,000 removals currently ordered by the courts. So that plus the 600,000 criminals is a good starting point.

Walls work, so says CBP and Homan. Trump will not accept "asylum" claims. I'm hoping congress drops asylum as a reason for entry into the US, there are other countries to take them in.

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[JoeB131]

Stop trying to redefine "deportation" or "removal".
1. A removal is court ordered.
2. A deportation is when an illegal has no passport and cannot prove he needs asylum.

The fact that 12,000,000 illegals were deported under Clinton for entering illegally is not debatable.

Actually, it is because those were border apprehensions and returns, NOT removals. I suspect that 12 million number is probably the same people being caught over and over again until the CBP was on a first name basis.

"Dammit, Juan, you got to stop doing this!"
"Si, Senor, see you next week."

 

[JoeB131]

Walls work, so says CBP and Homan. Trump will not accept "asylum" claims. I'm hoping congress drops asylum as a reason for entry into the US, there are other countries to take them in.

They would have to change federal law AND abrogate several treaties that the US Signed.

Now, I am the first one to admit, a lot of asylum claims are bogus.

Like that idiot German Family, who claimed asylum because Germany doesn't allow home-schooling. But because they're white and Christian, 17 years later, they STILL hadn't been thrown out and the government just kind of gave up.

 

[kyzr]

They would have to change federal law AND abrogate several treaties that the US Signed.

Now, I am the first one to admit, a lot of asylum claims are bogus.

Like that idiot German Family, who claimed asylum because Germany doesn't allow home-schooling. But because they're white and Christian, 17 years later, they STILL hadn't been thrown out and the government just kind of gave up.

1. The GOP has 3-branches and the WH, if they can't fix the immigration system now they suck.
2. The Laws need to be less arbitrary, totally agree.

 

[JoeB131]

1. The GOP has 3-branches and the WH, if they can't fix the immigration system now they suck.
2. The Laws need to be less arbitrary, totally agree.

We've been asking the GOP to fix immigration for 20 years... they won't this time, either.

 

[Captain Caveman]

/—-/ Who else gets separated from their parents? Care to guess?

As a kid, my dad worked nights, plus 3 part time jobs. So come to think of it, in a way us kids were separated from our dad because of his jobs, the timing of those jobs, school, and bed time. Didn't see him weeks on end. I can't remember any of us crying foul, we just got on with it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

As a kid, my dad worked nights, plus 3 part time jobs. So come to think of it, in a way us kids were separated from our dad because of his jobs, the timing of those jobs, school, and bed time. Didn't see him weeks on end. I can't remember any of us crying foul, we just got on with it.

/—-/ My dad traveled a lot too. That’s why I only worked a sales job where I was home every night. There were only a few overnight travel meetings a year.