Zone1 Mary

[BreezeWood]

I honestly have no idea what you're saying here. Mary, Joseph and Jesus historically were devout Jews in their history and in their time. To think a Jewish person should not be case in those roles is ridiculous.

yes it is, mary and joseph are not bound by moses nor were jesus or mary m all four chosen by the heavens as the exemplars for the true 1st century events.

those four were never jews .... they did not fear moses and their false commandments nor the hereditary idolatry of judaism.

those who repeat history seldom are who solve answers for the future.

the concluding scene of the 1st century events is all that is needed to dispute foxfyer's claim.

 

[Foxfyre]

those four were never jews .... they did not fear moses and their false commandments nor the hereditary idolatry of judaism.



the concluding scene of the 1st century events is all that is needed to dispute foxfyer's claim.

Well we'll just have to move on because I do not relate to anything you're saying here. But do have a good night.

 

[ding]

I do not relate to anything you're saying here.

No one does. I doubt even he understands what he's trying to say.

 

[ding]

Wrong. There is no smallest number. That means there is no beginning. Only to this universe but what about everything else? What about other universes? Our God is not the God of those. So, in our universe, there is but one Father, Son and Holy Ghost. That's it. We won't be gods in this universe. We will have our own to organize and manage.

You don't even know how many Gods there are, right? So can't even say there are more than one.

But the really important thing here is you guys think you will be Gods.

 

[ding]

Do we believe that multiple Gods exist? Yes. But for us here on this earth there is but one God our Father. So in this way we are monotheists. If we look at this world and ask if you believe if there are multiple fathers in the world we would all say yes. But if you ask how many fathers in this world are your father, most of us would say only one. God our Eternal Father in Heaven is the ruler over all his kingdom and the God of all in his kingdom. To us there is no other God who we are to look to as our Father and God. Will we grow up to become a father one day? Yes. Do we have the potential to become a God over our own spirit children some day? We believe so.

Do you think you will become a God?

 

[ding]

Do we believe that multiple Gods exist? Yes. But for us here on this earth there is but one God our Father. So in this way we are monotheists.

That way doesn't make you monotheists. That way makes you polytheists. Unnecessarily complicated polytheists at that.

 

[ding]

Wrong. There is no smallest number.

From what you have described there is an infinite chain of Gods that had no beginning and not one of them was eternal into the past. That is illogical.

 

[ding]

That means there is no beginning. Only to this universe but what about everything else? What about other universes?

This universe began. IF there are other universes they began too. The question at hand is what is the source of existence. A first cause that had no cause and is eternal into the past and future or an infinite chain of Gods that had no origin or end. The first one has no issue with infinity. The second one has huge problems with infinity.

 

[BreezeWood]

the concluding scene of the 1st century events is all that is needed to deny foxfyer's claim.

I do not relate to anything you're saying here. But do have a good night.

No one does. I doubt even he understands what he's trying to say.

the pretend to be saviors ...

when either of them are able to locate the false commandments of moses's stone tablets there will not be a need for their deceptions.

 

[Foxfyre]

the pretend to be saviors ...

when either of them are able to locate the false commandments of moses's stone tablets there will not be a need for their deceptions.

Again I don't think you can explain what you mean here. You probably don't know. But you do tend to contradict yourself you know?

 

[BreezeWood]

Again I don't think you can explain what you mean here. You probably don't know. But you do tend to contradict yourself you know?

when either of them are able to locate the false commandments of moses's stone tablets there will not be a need for their deceptions.

have you located the tablets claimed by moses w/ 10 commandments that are present in all three desert religions ... or a claim by jesus they were jews as has been claimed for them ...

no, jesus did not die a jew as certainly as america is not a christian nation - for the same reason.

 

[Foxfyre]

have you located the tablets claimed by moses w/ 10 commandments that are present in all three desert religions ... or a claim by jesus they were jews as has been claimed for them ...

no, jesus did not die a jew as certainly as america is not a christian nation - for the same reason.

The sad thing is you may not realize how little sense you are making here.

None of what you are saying, even if it did make sense that I cannot see, has anything to do with the fact that Mary, Joseph, and Jesus of the Bible were Jews descended from a long line of Jews and it is ridiculous to think that a Jewish person should not be cast in a role depicting any one of them in a theatrical or media production.

 

[BreezeWood]

yes it is, mary and joseph are not bound by moses nor were jesus or mary m all four chosen by the heavens as the exemplars for the true 1st century events.

those four were never jews .... they did not fear moses and their false commandments nor the hereditary idolatry of judaism.

no, jesus did not die a jew as certainly as america is not a christian nation - for the same reason.

The sad thing is you may not realize how little sense you are making here.

None of what you are saying, even if it did make sense that I cannot see, has anything to do with the fact that Mary, Joseph, and Jesus of the Bible were Jews descended from a long line of Jews and it is ridiculous to think that a Jewish person should not be cast in a role depicting any one of them in a theatrical or media production.

chosen not as jewish but as actors is fine, too bad for you - no, jesus did not die a jew - there is a reason for a jew not representing any of the 4 exemplars or the events of the 1st century - as they are responsible for the tragic and untimely conclusion and misrepresentation of those events.

liberation theology, self determination is what they stood for whether you like that or not - that is the conviction of those that new jesus the best not those that assimilate w/ the perpetrators.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus Christ is the only person who never sinned.

I seriously don't know where you guys get this shit. If Jesus was raised as an observant Jew who participated in the beliefs and practices that he later condemned as a grown man then he was without sin only after he stopped sinning, perpetuating the corruption of temple worship.

Damn. Even Jesus said "If you were blind you would not be guilty of sin". To sin is to know what God has forbidden and deliberately doing it anyway fully aware of the promised consequences.

Even all of you believers who never took the monumental intellectual effort required to get dressed and applied it to learning the deeper implications and hidden subjects of the law are not guilty of sin. Only those who are blind yet say "We see" are sinners. Like you. No wonder you are all so afraid of judgment day, your guilt remains, and so you have your reward already. Death.

 

[ding]

the pretend to be saviors ...

when either of them are able to locate the false commandments of moses's stone tablets there will not be a need for their deceptions.

Which religion do you follow again

 

[ding]

I seriously don't know where you guys get this shit. If Jesus was raised as an observant Jew who participated in the beliefs and practices that he later condemned as a grown man then he was without sin only after he stopped sinning, perpetuating the corruption of temple worship.

Or was who he claimed he was.

But I think it's great that you evangelize Jewish religious beliefs. Westboro Baptist don't got shit on your evangelization skills.

 

[Cougarbear]

You don't even know how many Gods there are, right? So can't even say there are more than one.

But the really important thing here is you guys think you will be Gods.

Do you follow the New Testament? Read John 10:34 and Psalms 82:6 and stop acting like there is a problem with the potential of running our own universes as the God to those universes. If you disagree, then you don't follow Jesus Christ.

As far as the number of universes? Infinite. Thus, there could be just one God, our God. But, in the future, there will be infinite Gods as Jesus Christ stated.

 

[Cougarbear]

From what you have described there is an infinite chain of Gods that had no beginning and not one of them was eternal into the past. That is illogical.

Why is it illogical? If no smallest number can be proved, then why would infinite God's be illogical? It's illogical to fight the fact it's provable that there is no smallest number. Therefore, it's completely logical that there is no beginning.

 

[Cougarbear]

This universe began. IF there are other universes they began too. The question at hand is what is the source of existence. A first cause that had no cause and is eternal into the past and future or an infinite chain of Gods that had no origin or end. The first one has no issue with infinity. The second one has huge problems with infinity.

Since there is no beginning because there is no smallest number, there is no problem with infinity. There is no beginning is the only conclusion. It's tough to wrap your head around it. You could go crazy trying to figure out what that looks like. But, you are doing it in a universe that had a beginning. Or so it seems.

 

[ding]

Do you follow the New Testament? Read John 10:34 and Psalms 82:6 and stop acting like there is a problem with the potential of running our own universes as the God to those universes. If you disagree, then you don't follow Jesus Christ.

As far as the number of universes? Infinite. Thus, there could be just one God, our God. But, in the future, there will be infinite Gods as Jesus Christ stated.

Will your wife be your Goddess or will she have her own universe?