Zone1 Mary

[ding]

Talk to Cougarbear about all that 1950s-style of Mormonism.

He is the go to guy since Bob Blaylock crossed the starbridge.

Oh, I plan to.

 

[Cougarbear]

So you shouldn't be afraid of owning your desire to become God.

My desire is focused on serving the Lord. If I get to be with my wife forever, that would be a gift of grace. To know this is a possible goal helps to do better serving the Lord. See, the knowledge only motivates the already motivated. You now know there’s more than what your preachers have taught you and you still don’t act on this great news.

 

[ding]

My desire is focused on serving the Lord. If I get to be with my wife forever, that would be a gift of grace. To know this is a possible goal helps to do better serving the Lord. See, the knowledge only motivates the already motivated. You now know there’s more than what your preachers have taught you and you still don’t act on this great news.

Only insofar as that is required to meet your objective which is to become God.

How many Gods and Goddesses are there?

 

[Cougarbear]

Only insofar as that is required to meet your objective which is to become God.

How many Gods and Goddesses are there?

The answer to that is unknown. We only have been told that “As man is now, God once was. As God is now, man may become.” Jesus confirmed this in John 10:34, “Did I not already tell you in Psalms 82:6, Ye are gods, and children of the most high.” So, it isn’t really a goal since me and you are already gods. It’s a matter of being able to exercise and be able to use that which we inherit from being God’s children. To do this, we have to first accept who we are and make it to the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom. To do this, you first have to want to be there. Only a small number of people will want that.

 

[ding]

The answer to that is unknown. We only have been told that “As man is now, God once was. As God is now, man may become.” Jesus confirmed this in John 10:34, “Did I not already tell you in Psalms 82:6, Ye are gods, and children of the most high.” So, it isn’t really a goal since me and you are already gods. It’s a matter of being able to exercise and be able to use that which we inherit from being God’s children. To do this, we have to first accept who we are and make it to the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom. To do this, you first have to want to be there. Only a small number of people will want that.

Ball park it for me. Is it small like a basketball team? Or large like China?

 

[Cougarbear]

Ball park it for me. Is it small like a basketball team? Or large like China?

As we understand, the Earth will be celestialized and we perhaps remain here. Unless we don't receive celestial glory, we would be elsewhere in a Terrestrial or Telestial world. What goes on there is not given as we are taught to seek the best of all worlds. What is also known is that those members of our families as far back to Adam and Eve will be there with us. We teach families can be forever in Heavenly Father's Plan.

 

[ding]

As we understand, the Earth will be celestialized and we perhaps remain here. Unless we don't receive celestial glory, we would be elsewhere in a Terrestrial or Telestial world. What goes on there is not given as we are taught to seek the best of all worlds. What is also known is that those members of our families as far back to Adam and Eve will be there with us. We teach families can be forever in Heavenly Father's Plan.

Was there a first God before all others?

 

[Cougarbear]

Was there a first God before all others?

Well, is there a smallest number? You know, smaller than the one you think is smallest? One of the math books I taught Geometry out of showed a proof that there is no smallest number. Wrap that around your brain for a while. Might go crazy thinking about it. But, what it teaches, there is no beginning of time. Only for this universe we are in. Means there are other universes. An infinite number. So, an infinite number of God's to run each one of them. Can give you a headache thinking about it too much.

 

[ding]

Well, is there a smallest number? You know, smaller than the one you think is smallest? One of the math books I taught Geometry out of showed a proof that there is no smallest number. Wrap that around your brain for a while. Might go crazy thinking about it. But, what it teaches, there is no beginning of time. Only for this universe we are in. Means there are other universes. An infinite number. So, an infinite number of God's to run each one of them. Can give you a headache thinking about it too much.

That's my point. It has to start with one. It can't be an infinite number of causes. And then there is this universe. It began. Monotheists believe it was created by God. A single God. Most monotheists don't believe in gods. That would be polytheism.

Are you a polytheist or a monotheist?

 

[BreezeWood]

Yes, this makes no sense.

it does when they were chosen by the heavens for their renunciation of moses and their false commandments - and the events of the 1st century to abandon the invalid judaism religion for the original religion of antiquity - liberation theology, self determination they were all willing to die for.

 

[BreezeWood]

And it is inappropriate to cast a Jew in the role?

those who repeat history seldom are who solve answers for the future.

yes it is, mary and joseph are not bound by moses nor were jesus or mary m all four chosen by the heavens as the exemplars for the true 1st century events.

 

[onefour1]

That's my point. It has to start with one. It can't be an infinite number of causes. And then there is this universe. It began. Monotheists believe it was created by God. A single God. Most monotheists don't believe in gods. That would be polytheism.

Are you a polytheist or a monotheist?

Do we believe that multiple Gods exist? Yes. But for us here on this earth there is but one God our Father. So in this way we are monotheists. If we look at this world and ask if you believe if there are multiple fathers in the world we would all say yes. But if you ask how many fathers in this world are your father, most of us would say only one. God our Eternal Father in Heaven is the ruler over all his kingdom and the God of all in his kingdom. To us there is no other God who we are to look to as our Father and God. Will we grow up to become a father one day? Yes. Do we have the potential to become a God over our own spirit children some day? We believe so.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Do we believe that multiple Gods exist? Yes. But for us here on this earth there is but one God our Father. So in this way we are monotheists. If we look at this world and ask if you believe if there are multiple fathers in the world we would all say yes. But if you ask how many fathers in this world are your father, most of us would say only one. God our Eternal Father in Heaven is the ruler over all his kingdom and the God of all in his kingdom. To us there is no other God who we are to look to as our Father and God. Will we grow up to become a father one day? Yes. Do we have the potential to become a God over our own spirit children some day? We believe so.

The only part I agree with is that Mans DESTINY is to be BORN AGAIN into the Family of God. Jesus IS my elder BROTHER, and the Father is my FATHER.

God promises so much more than pagan Christianity understands

 

[onefour1]

The only part I agree with is that Mans DESTINY is to be BORN AGAIN into the Family of God. Jesus IS my elder BROTHER, and the Father is my FATHER.

God promises so much more than pagan Christianity understands

I agree. God is our Eternal Father in Heaven and the father of all our spirits. Jesus is the firstborn of all the spirit children of the Father and a member of the Godhead and that he is our elder BROTHER. He also is the Only Begotten of the Father in this world and our Savior and Redeemer. I also agree that God promises so much more than paganism or false Christianity.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He also is the Only Begotten of the Father in this world

Here I disagree. If you have the Holy Spirit, you are a BEGOTTEN child of God waiting to be BORN AGAIN at the first Resurrection

 

[onefour1]

Here I disagree. If you have the Holy Spirit, you are a BEGOTTEN child of God waiting to be BORN AGAIN at the first Resurrection

Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God in the flesh. Yes, I agree that we can all be spiritually begotten by being born again of the spirit.

Mosiah 5:7
7 And now, because of the covenant which ye have made ye shall be called the children of Christ, his sons, and his daughters; for behold, this day he hath spiritually begotten you; for ye say that your hearts are changed through faith on his name; therefore, ye are born of him and have become his sons and his daughters.

Mosiah 27:25
25 And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters;

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I like Mary about RC, and the Mother in heaven of the LDS.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

it does when they were chosen by the heavens for their renunciation of moses and their false commandments - and the events of the 1st century to abandon the invalid judaism religion for the original religion of antiquity - liberation theology, self determination they were all willing to die for.

It makes no sense.

 

[Foxfyre]

those who repeat history seldom are who solve answers for the future.

yes it is, mary and joseph are not bound by moses nor were jesus or mary m all four chosen by the heavens as the exemplars for the true 1st century events.

I honestly have no idea what you're saying here. Mary, Joseph and Jesus historically were devout Jews in their history and in their time. To think a Jewish person should not be case in those roles is ridiculous.

 

[Cougarbear]

That's my point. It has to start with one. It can't be an infinite number of causes. And then there is this universe. It began. Monotheists believe it was created by God. A single God. Most monotheists don't believe in gods. That would be polytheism.

Are you a polytheist or a monotheist?

Wrong. There is no smallest number. That means there is no beginning. Only to this universe but what about everything else? What about other universes? Our God is not the God of those. So, in our universe, there is but one Father, Son and Holy Ghost. That's it. We won't be gods in this universe. We will have our own to organize and manage.