Zone1 Mary

[ding]

Why is it illogical? If no smallest number can be proved, then why would infinite God's be illogical? It's illogical to fight the fact it's provable that there is no smallest number. Therefore, it's completely logical that there is no beginning.

It's illogical because there would be an infinite chain of gods which never had a beginning instead of one God that has always existed.

 

[ding]

But, you are doing it in a universe that had a beginning. Or so it seems.

With your "or so it seems" comment, you are arguing against your own dogma. What was it you told me, your faith teaches God created the universe from existing matter? Did I get that correct?

 

[ding]

As far as the number of universes? Infinite. Thus, there could be just one God, our God. But, in the future, there will be infinite Gods as Jesus Christ stated.

This makes no sense at all. You are all over the map.

 

[luiza]

This makes no sense at all. You are all over the map.

He has come across the Multiverse Hypothesis , does not understand it , but is worried that it somehow undermines his Cult view of the sole creator .

As for "God" creating the Universe from matter . rofl .

That is getting things back to front, though that is where the Atomists have gone wrong -- perhaps deliberately through Einstein latterly ,
That last comment is , in fairness , possibly extreme Deep State conspiracy thinking .

 

[hadit]

But do you think God, would put his son in to any old female vessel to be birthed, or did he choose someone really special...different from at least most women, to birth Him? Was she blessed, as the Bible states? Was she full of Grace as the Bible stated? Was the Lord with her, as the Bible states?

Yet she was not ordained from childhood, as Sampson was. Sampson was a Nazerite from birth and God selected him. Yes, Mary was a devout woman, but to say that she was nearly divine (or actually divine, as some Catholics seem to insist) counters the way God selects and uses ordinary people to accomplish extraordinary things:

David was an adulterer and murder.
Solomon had hundreds of wives and concubines that led him away from the Lord.
Abraham let his wife go to service Pharoah.
Jonah ran away from his Godly call.

Yet we're supposed to believe that Mary was somehow completely sinless? That's a slap in the face to Jesus, who BEGGED the Father for some way, ANY way to avoid going to the cross. If Mary could avoid sin her entire life, Jesus' death would not have been necessary because there would be a way for man to be with God that did not require Jesus' sacrifice.

 

[Care4all]

Yet she was not ordained from childhood, as Sampson was. Sampson was a Nazerite from birth and God selected him. Yes, Mary was a devout woman, but to say that she was nearly divine (or actually divine, as some Catholics seem to insist) counters the way God selects and uses ordinary people to accomplish extraordinary things:

David was an adulterer and murder.
Solomon had hundreds of wives and concubines that led him away from the Lord.
Abraham let his wife go to service Pharoah.
Jonah ran away from his Godly call.

Yet we're supposed to believe that Mary was somehow completely sinless? That's a slap in the face to Jesus, who BEGGED the Father for some way, ANY way to avoid going to the cross. If Mary could avoid sin her entire life, Jesus' death would not have been necessary because there would be a way for man to be with God that did not require Jesus' sacrifice.

I don't know much about the back story of their tradition, but it has something to do with Mary's mother and father and how she was conceived, I think but not certain???? and I don't care...it wasn't something the churches I went to when I was going to Catholic mass spent time on.... I could try to find out on one of the catholic church's official sites, I suppose?

 

[Road Runner]

Will your wife be your Goddess or will she have her own universe?

Well my fiancee treats me like a goddess but he only worships Jesus and so I'm not actually his goddess and he doesn't worship me. So there's a difference and I'm not sure which way you're meaning.

 

[Cougarbear]

Will your wife be your Goddess or will she have her own universe?

Do you believe the words Jesus spoke? You should answer this first before asking more questions. John10:34/Psalms 82:6

 

[Cougarbear]

It's illogical because there would be an infinite chain of gods which never had a beginning instead of one God that has always existed.

You just fight facts, don’t you? What’s the smallest number of time before the Big Bang? There is no answer. You are thinking only linear.

 

[Cougarbear]

With your "or so it seems" comment, you are arguing against your own dogma. What was it you told me, your faith teaches God created the universe from existing matter? Did I get that correct?

Actually, the word “create” is incorrect. The correct translation from Hebrew is “organize.” That is what is meant by God created the universe. It was organized. Now, there is no smallest time before the Big Bang. So, how was there a Big Bang?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I like Mary about RC, and the Mother in heaven of the LDS.

She's sleeping in the grave (dead) until Christ returns

 

[Cougarbear]

This makes no sense at all. You are all over the map.

No I am not. We know there was at least one God before our God because of the statement by one of our prophets. “As mania now, God once was…” So our God went through an experience like we have.” The question is was there more genealogies before. We don’t know if there is. So, it could be infinite since time is infinite.

 

[ding]

Well my fiancee treats me like a goddess but he only worships Jesus and so I'm not actually his goddess and he doesn't worship me. So there's a difference and I'm not sure which way you're meaning.

I think my question was directed to cougarbear. But thanks for sharing.

People got the wrong idea of what it means to worship and what worship is.

 

[ding]

Do you believe the words Jesus spoke? You should answer this first before asking more questions. John10:34/Psalms 82:6

Why are you deflecting? Can't you just give me a straight answer?

Will your wife be your Goddess or will she have her own universe?

 

[ding]

You just fight facts, don’t you? What’s the smallest number of time before the Big Bang? There is no answer. You are thinking only linear.

The fact is you don't understand what infinite means. You can't add to infinite because it is already infinite. So there is no such thing as an infinite chain of God into the past. God can be eternal and unchanging. But there can be no infinite chain of Gods into the past. It's an idiotic concept.

I am thinking logically is what I am doing.

 

[ding]

Actually, the word “create” is incorrect. The correct translation from Hebrew is “organize.” That is what is meant by God created the universe. It was organized. Now, there is no smallest time before the Big Bang. So, how was there a Big Bang?

So in your mind, God took existing matter and organized it into the universe. Where did that matter come from? Did this matter exist before God existed?

The Big Bang was a quantum tunneling event where matter was created through paired particle production. It literally popped into existence. How? God willed it into existence. The physical world is made up of information or mind stuff.

 

[Cougarbear]

Why are you deflecting? Can't you just give me a straight answer?

Will your wife be your Goddess or will she have her own universe?

I'm answering all your question about this. You brought up this question without answering my previous questions. So, you are the one deflecting. The question you have is simple, Are parents single in heaven. No. The thought makes reason stare. We all have a heavenly Mother and Father in which Father presides. The question has been asked, why is there not anything in the Bible about Heavenly Mother? I have two opinions on this. One is, during a council in Heaven where we all were present, Father's plan was shown to us all concerning us all descending to earth and to be tested with free moral agency to choose good or evil as we do today. Lucifer presented His own plan that would leave out the free moral agency right to choose good or evil. We would simply be shown the difference and not be able to live it. Lucifer said that way all of us would return and the glory would go to Lucifer and not the Father. Jehovah (Jesus) stepped in supporting Father's plan which was decided by Heavenly Father. A third of all of us, children of our Heavenly Parents, rejected Father's plan and were thrown our with Lucifer from Heaven to this earth to give opposition and torment mankind from choosing good over evil. Heavenly Mother was very unhappy about losing a third of her children and asked her husband, our Father in Heaven, not to mention her in prophecy and revelation. Thus, this is my opinion. Another reason is that she was spoken of by ancient prophets and apostles. But, during the great apostasy after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the death of the apostles, the writings concerning Heavenly Mother were destroyed.

The only resurrected persons that will reach the highest degree in the highest kingdom, Celestial Kingdom, must be sealed to a person of the opposite sex. Male and Female. Husband and Wife. The Husband holds the Priesthood together with his Wife in what is known as The Patriarchal Order of the Priesthood. Together, they rule. The Husband presides. It's as simple as that.

 

[Cougarbear]

The fact is you don't understand what infinite means. You can't add to infinite because it is already infinite. So there is no such thing as an infinite chain of God into the past. God can be eternal and unchanging. But there can be no infinite chain of Gods into the past. It's an idiotic concept.

I am thinking logically is what I am doing.

You are thinking linear and that isn't logical to your question. I'm not adding more Gods. They already exist in their infinite state in one direction, the past. But, in the future, there will be more added from our point in this universe. And, I'm sure and infinite more universes already in place. There is no smallest amount of time in the past. That's what the proof states. No smallest number or amount of time in the past. Going forward, that is different. That will grow and grow and grow in our universe and universes to come for ever and ever.

 

[ding]

I'm answering all your question about this. You brought up this question without answering my previous questions. So, you are the one deflecting. The question you have is simple, Are parents single in heaven. No. The thought makes reason stare. We all have a heavenly Mother and Father in which Father presides. The question has been asked, why is there not anything in the Bible about Heavenly Mother? I have two opinions on this. One is, during a council in Heaven where we all were present, Father's plan was shown to us all concerning us all descending to earth and to be tested with free moral agency to choose good or evil as we do today. Lucifer presented His own plan that would leave out the free moral agency right to choose good or evil. We would simply be shown the difference and not be able to live it. Lucifer said that way all of us would return and the glory would go to Lucifer and not the Father. Jehovah (Jesus) stepped in supporting Father's plan which was decided by Heavenly Father. A third of all of us, children of our Heavenly Parents, rejected Father's plan and were thrown our with Lucifer from Heaven to this earth to give opposition and torment mankind from choosing good over evil. Heavenly Mother was very unhappy about losing a third of her children and asked her husband, our Father in Heaven, not to mention her in prophecy and revelation. Thus, this is my opinion. Another reason is that she was spoken of by ancient prophets and apostles. But, during the great apostasy after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the death of the apostles, the writings concerning Heavenly Mother were destroyed.

The only resurrected persons that will reach the highest degree in the highest kingdom, Celestial Kingdom, must be sealed to a person of the opposite sex. Male and Female. Husband and Wife. The Husband holds the Priesthood together with his Wife in what is known as The Patriarchal Order of the Priesthood. Together, they rule. The Husband presides. It's as simple as that.

Actually you haven't really answered any of them. In fact you even tried to waffle on you wanting to become God.

 

[ding]

You are thinking linear and that isn't logical to your question. I'm not adding more Gods. They already exist in their infinite state in one direction, the past. But, in the future, there will be more added from our point in this universe. And, I'm sure and infinite more universes already in place. There is no smallest amount of time in the past. That's what the proof states. No smallest number or amount of time in the past. Going forward, that is different. That will grow and grow and grow in our universe and universes to come for ever and ever.

You can't add to infinite.