Zone1 Mary

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bb is cyclical -

 

[Cougarbear]

The beginning of creation as in "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. Ergo everything was made or created. Before that there was nothing.

Yes, all things in this universe including the galaxies, stars, dark matter and the earth. The creation as in creating a work of art. Not something from nothing. And, as the song goes, "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could, So somewhere in my youth, Or childhood, I must have done something good." Nothing can't come from nothing. It's totally illogical. The particles you talk about existed to create the universe (is just a theory). Such stupidity. How old is the earth?

 

[Cougarbear]

No. Google and Mark 16:15 corroborates that you and every other living things are God's creatures.

So what? Of course we are God's children. Spirit children at that. So what? I'm not questioning this. I'm simply saying that Jesus was speaking directly to the people, looking them in the eyes and said, You are gods. John 10:34. How many times does he have to say it for you to believe?

 

[Cougarbear]

And you don't understand that that still uses paired particle production as the vehicle for the creation of the universe.

So, the singularity is paired particles? No, it is not. You can see that your theory isn't compatible with the Big Bang theory. That's why I'll take prophets voices over scientist voices.

 

[Cougarbear]

Joseph Smith is no prophet.

Well, he died in 1844. But, until he died, he was the mouthpiece of the Lord as Prophet, Seer and Revelator.

 

[BreezeWood]

However, for clarification, energy is technically matter.

which came first, the clarification would more be the particular state of the article being discussed, pure energy has no mass while being indestructible.

polytheism gives rise to the periodic table their combinations are the source of creations no single entity is greater than any other is directly from the heavens as expressed by jesus.

 

[Cougarbear]

which came first, the clarification would more be the particular state of the article being discussed, pure energy has no mass while being indestructible.

polytheism gives rise to the periodic table their combinations are the source of creations no single entity is greater than any other is directly from the heavens as expressed by jesus.

Pure energy seems confusing that it has no mass. Yet, Einstein discovered that "ALL forms of energy have an effective mass - ie they weigh something. Sound energy has mass, heat energy has mass, and so on. Consequently, particles of light or photons, do have an effective mass."
As far as the rest of what you posted, what and where did Jesus say anything about any of this?

 

[BreezeWood]

Pure energy seems confusing that it has no mass. Yet, Einstein discovered that "ALL forms of energy have an effective mass - ie they weigh something. Sound energy has mass, heat energy has mass, and so on. Consequently, particles of light or photons, do have an effective mass."
As far as the rest of what you posted, what and where did Jesus say anything about any of this?

as energy exists would give it mass transferable into matter than being matter itself.

what really were the events of the 1st century as to the concluding scene of jesus's crucifixion - obviously someone did not believe jesus was there to fulfill the religion of judaism their commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid - who they were is who stole the show.

- from those who did not fear moses ...

as those heavenly same through the centuries as jesus.

 

[Cougarbear]

as energy exists would give it mass transferable into matter than being matter itself.

what really were the events of the 1st century as to the concluding scene of jesus's crucifixion - obviously someone did not believe jesus was there to fulfill the religion of judaism their commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid - who they were is who stole the show.

- from those who did not fear moses ...

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as those heavenly same through the centuries as jesus.

I didn't think you had anything specific of what Jesus said about this. Just more cult nonsense. Thanks for the information on mass.

 

[ding]

Yes, all things in this universe including the galaxies, stars, dark matter and the earth. The creation as in creating a work of art. Not something from nothing. And, as the song goes, "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could, So somewhere in my youth, Or childhood, I must have done something good." Nothing can't come from nothing. It's totally illogical. The particles you talk about existed to create the universe (is just a theory). Such stupidity. How old is the earth?

The universe was not created from existing matter. Your prophet was wrong.

The earth is ~4 billion years old. The universe is ~14 billion years old. The evidence shows that it literally popped into existence not being created from existing matter.

 

[ding]

So what? Of course we are God's children. Spirit children at that. So what? I'm not questioning this. I'm simply saying that Jesus was speaking directly to the people, looking them in the eyes and said, You are gods. John 10:34. How many times does he have to say it for you to believe?

No. We are God's creatures. Read Mark 16:15. Creatures.

And no. That's not what Jesus was doing. In John 10, Jesus is confronted by Jewish religious leaders who ask him to reveal if he is the Messiah. Jesus responds by claiming equality with God, saying "I and the Father are one". The religious leaders pick up stones to stone him for blasphemy.

Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6 to deflect the accusation of blasphemy. He is referring to angelic beings, who are sometimes called "gods" in the Old Testament.

The phrase "you are gods" in Psalm 82 is a metaphor. It means that God made humans in his own image and originally intended for them to rule the planet. However, humans are not omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, or self-existent.

 

[ding]

So, the singularity is paired particles? No, it is not. You can see that your theory isn't compatible with the Big Bang theory. That's why I'll take prophets voices over scientist voices.

The singularity is a mathematical artifact. It's not a physical phenomenon. It's the point where mathematically the solutions to Einstein's field equation yield infinite densities. It's the mathematical limit of the equations which is where the equations stop working.

So, no... the singularity is not paired particles.

I'm am literally telling you what the big bang theory is, so, no, I don't see where anything I have shared with you is incompatible with the big bang theory. You are way in over your head and your last statement says it all... you will choose what your prophets tell you to believe over what the science shows to be the truth. But then again, your prophets have promised you that you will be a god if you follow their words.

 

[ding]

Well, he died in 1844. But, until he died, he was the mouthpiece of the Lord as Prophet, Seer and Revelator.

He was a charlatan.

 

[ding]

Pure energy seems confusing that it has no mass. Yet, Einstein discovered that "ALL forms of energy have an effective mass - ie they weigh something.

No. That's not what Einstein showed. Einstein showed that energy and mass are equivalent. e=mc^2 is the equation which is used to show the equivalence of mass and energy. So if you take the mass of an object, you can convert that mass into an equivalent amount of energy using Einstein's equation which shows the equivalency of mass and energy.

 

[BreezeWood]

I didn't think you had anything specific of what Jesus said about this.

- from those who did not fear moses and were likewise murdered.

there is nothing in the christian bible written or chosen by jesus for inclusion and is written 4 centuries after their passing -

as to the concluding scene of jesus's crucifixion - obviously someone did not believe jesus was there to fulfill the religion of judaism

your claim is only substantiated by their being murdered a reason for the crime to silence their repudiation of judaism than having written their memoir than what records did exist they destroyed - does not mitigate the recorded histories of the judean desert religions and their non repentant persecution and victimization of the innocent as confirmation of the true 1st century events.

 

[BreezeWood]

The universe was not created from existing matter.

the universe emerged from the condensed energy from the prior cyclical event it again reproduces endlessly.

defining something made up to give it meaning reflecting the christian bible as a flat earth is for them a reliance on coercion that is in itself the purpose for the exercise than the issue being promoted.

 

[ding]

the universe emerged from the condensed energy from the prior cyclical event it again reproduces endlessly.

defining something made up to give it meaning reflecting the christian bible as a flat earth is for them a reliance on coercion that is in itself the purpose for the exercise than the issue being promoted.

No. It didn't. That's why you can't post a link saying it was.

 

[BreezeWood]

No. It didn't. That's why you can't post a link saying it was.

a link is not necessary, the simple experiment as previously stated will verify the bb as a cyclical event - that experiment as mentioned before is what you run from each time you attempt to vilify an obvious natural occurrence.

- an explosion of a stationary object in space by its particles being propelled in finite angles of trajectory never changing direction will eventually reconstitute itself and may even reignite and repeat the same process over again - the boomerang theory.

 

[ding]

a link is not necessary, the simple experiment as previously stated will verify the bb as a cyclical event - that experiment as mentioned before is what you run from each time you attempt to vilify an obvious natural occurrence.

- an explosion of a stationary object in space by its particles being propelled in finite angles of trajectory never changing direction will eventually reconstitute itself and may even reignite and repeat the same process over again - the boomerang theory.

A link is absolutely necessary.

But since you are making this all up, you don't have one.

 

[Cougarbear]

The universe was not created from existing matter. Your prophet was wrong.

The earth is ~4 billion years old. The universe is ~14 billion years old. The evidence shows that it literally popped into existence not being created from existing matter.

Prove he is wrong. Show us, take us there where God was before the universe. See, our prophet was taught by God and by the angels. Your scientists reject God and the angels. Why should I accept your nonsense over the prophets and apostles of God?

Have you heard of the Methusela Star? It's older than the universe. Some say it isn't and give a reason. But, even if it weren't it's so old that it could not have formed into a star in the time frame your scientist prophets say. Yet, there it is! Since time is relative, it could be a lot less old than we understand from our earth perspective. And, the dating methods we use have so many problems with dating.