Marxist Pelosi Fixing Law to Eliminate God from Oath in House. Vote!

[Ambivalent1]

Have any of you Lefties visited the MLK memorial in Washington DC? If you do, you will see scripture, after scripture, after scripture chiseled out in stone all around the memorial.

How can we let this stand with a separation of church and state?

The memorial must be torn down!!!!!!!!!!

Hardly does the statue represent the state..

Not the point, the point is that it's on Gov property and precedent (though incorrect) says it shouldn't be there.

 

[beautress]

We are not and have never been a Christian nation and have never served God. We have individuals that are Christian but our country and government has never done the work of god.


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By "Christian nation", we are saying that Christianity is the predominant religious belief in the United States.

It is the majority religion that is for sure. But I do not think anyone could argue our government has ever acted in a Christian like manner.


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Best post evah!

Government isn't supposed to act in any religious manner. The problem I see is the left will attack Christianity, but then ignore muslims that try to influence our government.

You never read President Washington's state writings, letters, and presidential commentaries, did you. Well, I did. He mentioned the Lord Almighty in almost every single thing he ever put to the pen. You have ZERO idea.

 

[Ambivalent1]

By "Christian nation", we are saying that Christianity is the predominant religious belief in the United States.

It is the majority religion that is for sure. But I do not think anyone could argue our government has ever acted in a Christian like manner.


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Best post evah!

Government isn't supposed to act in any religious manner. The problem I see is the left will attack Christianity, but then ignore muslims that try to influence our government.

We have a First Amendment that was written so clearly for the persecuted Christians who came to America under the threat of death from the persecutors of European extraction including countries who in the 10th to 17th Century (and more) persecuted Pilgrims whose ONLY hope was to leave the Royals-ruled kingdoms and come to the New World promises that they could establish colonies that would free them from their oppressors. Almost all of them were Christians and Jews whose denominations were roundly renounced from Arabia to the northernmost seas of Europe. When our fathers and mothers got here, their homelands and "owners" roundly taxed them for all they were worth.

Don't you try to pass off that bullshit on me. The muslims have been trying to get rid of the jews since Abraham and Sarah, mother of Isaac, sent Hagar and Ishmael away to live to keep the peace since there was none between Sarah and Hagar. (Genesis 17-21) They had a dysfunctional family, and it never went away. In World War II, Hitler allied himself with the Arabs to justify his removing and assassinating people of Jewish descent in Germany and conquering all European countries, also to do away with Jews .

Here's the first evidence I found that this is true:
Al-Husayni salutes the recruits on the cover of magazine "Vienna Illustrated" November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: ""To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory. Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler" From Al Husseini to Hitler :Radical Islam and the Nazi connection - Pan Arabism to the PA - Militant Islam Monitor - Militant Islam Monitor

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The Nazi Roots of Modern Radical Islam
By Tom Knowlton

The recent "Letter to the American People" allegedly authored by Osama bin Laden is a virtual ideological manifesto for Islamic extremists. It serves to outline the perceived grievances of radical Muslims against Israel and the West.

The letter claims, "It is the Muslims who are the inheritors of Moses," dating the conflict between Jews and Arabs back to the Biblical conflict between Abraham's two children: his eldest son, Ishmael (from who Arabs are believed descended), and his younger son, Isaac (from who Jews are believed descended). Some Muslims believe that Isaac usurped Ishmael's birthright.

Likewise, prominent imams such as Abu Qatada, Omar Muhammad Bakri, and Abu Hamza regularly echo this claim that Arabs and Jews have been bitter enemies from the dawn of time.

However, if one examines the history of the Middle East, there is very little evidence of constant warring and animosity between Jews and Arabs.

In fact, when the city of Jerusalem fell to Christian Crusaders in 1099, the defenders of the holy city had been a combined force of Jews and Muslims. After the Crusaders captured the city, they massacred Muslim and Jewish citizens alike and left the survivors to flee Jerusalem. Not until the Muslim hero Saladin defeated the Crusaders in 1187, did the Jewish population even begin to return to Jerusalem.

Jerusalem's Jewish community continued to prosper under the Muslim Nahmanides in 1267. But the community's true renaissance occurred during the 15th and 16th centuries, when a large influx of Jews were welcomed into Jerusalem by the Ottoman Empire after being expelled from Spain.

For four centuries under Ottoman rule, Arab and Jewish neighborhoods peacefully coexisted. After the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, the region came under British mandate. The early days under the British also saw relatively peaceful coexistence continuing and manifesting itself in the form of Arab and Jewish neighborhoods springing up in the "garden neighborhoods" of Talpiot, Rehavia and Beit Hakerem.

However, after over 700 years of peaceful coexistence, the true start of the Arab-Israeli conflict can be dated to 1920 and the rise of one man, Haj Amin Muhammad Al Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem. As grand mufti, al Husseini presided as the Imam of the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, the highest Muslim authority in the British mandate.

History shows Al Husseini to be a brutal man with aspirations to rule a pan-Arabic empire in the Middle East. He rose to prominence by actively eliminating those Jews and Arabs he considered a threat to his control of Jerusalem's Arab population, and he heavily utilized anti-Jewish propaganda to polarize the two communities.

In 1920 and again in 1929, Al Husseini incited anti-Jewish riots by claiming the Jews were plotting to destroy the Al Asqa mosque. The riots resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Jewish civilians and a virtual end to the Jewish presence in Hebron.

The 1936 Arab revolt against the British is believed to have been at least partially funded by Nazi Adolf Eichmann, and Al Husseini again ordered armed Arab militias to massacre Jewish citizens.

When British authorities finally quelled the rebellion in 1939, Al Husseini fled to neighboring Iraq and helped to orchestrate a 1941 anti-British jihad. As in Jerusalem, the British successfully put down the rebellion and Al Husseini fled to Nazi Germany.

Al Husseini found the Nazis to be a strong ideological match with his anti-Jewish brand of Islam, and schemed with Hitler and the Nazi hierarchy to create a pro-Nazi pan-Arabic form of government in the Middle East.

Dr. Serge Trifkovic documents the similarities between Al Husseini's brand of radical Islam and Nazism in his book The Sword of the Prophet. He noted parallels in both ideologies: anti-Semitism, quest for world dominance, demand for the total subordination of the free will of the individual, belief in the abolishment of the nation-state in favor of a "higher" community (in Islam the umma or community of all believers; in Nazism, the herrenvolk or master race), and belief in undemocratic governance by a "divine" leader (an Islamic caliph, or Nazi führer).

The Nazis provided Al Husseini with luxurious accommodations in Berlin and a monthly stipend in excess of $10,000. In return, he regularly appeared on German radio touting the Jews as the "most fierce enemies of Muslims," and implored an adoption of the Nazi "final solution" by Arabs. After the Nazi defeat at El Alamein in 1942, Al Husseini broadcast radio messages on Radio Berlin calling for continued Arabic resistance to Allied forces. In time, he came to be known as the "Fuhrer's Mufti" and the "Arab Fuhrer."

There's a lot more here, plus 12 pages before and several pages after this page: From Al Husseini to Hitler :Radical Islam and the Nazi connection - Pan Arabism to the PA - Militant Islam Monitor - Militant Islam Monitor

Hitler's suicide didn't resolve the Muslim desire to murder all Jews in the Holy Lands, either.
1972 Muslim Munich Olympic Terrorists Worked w/ Nazis to Murder Israeli Olympic Team; German Intelligence Ignored Tip
As we know, Muslims and Nazis worked together during the Holocaust–with two Muslim SS units rounding up and murdering Jews and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem helping Hitler plan the final solution. And we know that Muslims and Nazis worked together after the Holocaust, with many top SS members–such as Alois Brunner and Aribert Heim–taking refuge in Muslim countries, some of them converting to Islam (as Heim did), and many of them helping Muslims develop poisonous weapons and missiles against Israel (as Heim also did). And so it should be no surprise that German Nazis helped the Munich Olympic terrorists carry out the massacre of most of the Israeli Olympic team in 1972, the tragic 40th anniversary of which occurs this September.

Muslim Munich Olympic Terrorists Worked w/ Nazis to Murder Israeli Olympic Team; German Intelligence Ignored Tip

Muslim hatred just never, never goes away, except the hate now includes Christian people as well as the Jews our founders swore to protect. You know, the Jews, who financed the American Revolution but never received repayment from Congress?.

1993 In late-April 1993, the United States learned that terrorists had attempted to assassinate Bush during his visit to Kuwait.
How Do We Know that Iraq Tried to Assassinate President George H.W. Bush? | History News Network

2015
January 15, 2015 | Gershon Tannenbaum

Today (on the Hebrew calendar) is the anniversary of the death of Haym Salomon, a Polish-born American Jew who single-handedly raised most of the funds necessary to back the Continental army. And his devotion to the revolutionary cause did not end there, as Gershon Tannenbaum writes:

Arriving in colonial America in 1772, [Salomon] established himself in New York as a respected and well-liked merchant. . . . Haym enthusiastically joined the Sons of Liberty, a secret organization that had been established by men with business interests who were opposed to British rule. Haym was arrested by the British and charged with spying in September 1776, an offense punishable by hanging. His [linguistic] skills caught the attention of his captors and he was assigned to German General Heister.

As an interpreter for Heister, Salomon was allowed a relatively high degree of freedom. He contributed to the American revolutionary cause by persuading Hessian [mercenaries] to switch sides. . . .

Salomon continued [after his release] to work underground to sway Hessian allegiance, and was jailed a second time in August 1778 as one of several suspects thought to be planning a fire that would destroy the British royal fleet in New York harbor.

Read more on 5 Towns Jewish Times: The Saddest Day In Early American History - The 5 Towns Jewish Times


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All true.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We are not and have never been a Christian nation and have never served God. We have individuals that are Christian but our country and government has never done the work of god.


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The US absolutely IS a Christian nation. To deny that is being disingenuous.

"Almighty GOD; we make our earnest prayer that Thou wilt keep the United States in Thy holy protection, that thou wilt incline the hearts of the citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to government; and entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another and for their fellow citizens of the United States of America at large. And finally that Thou wilt most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility and pacific temper of mind which were the characteristics of The Divine Author of our blessed religion, and without whose example in these things we can never hope to be a happy nation. Grant our supplication, we beseech thee, through Jesus Christ Our Lord. Amen"

^Who prayed that, then? Damn sure wasn't Tashib Mohammed.

Spoiler

"If you want to know" http://lmgtfy.com/?q=washington+prayer+america

That is a very nice prayer...one man’s words that the country as a whole never lived up to.

Was the slavery of the time a Christ like action?

Was our treatment of the local people as we moved westward a Christ like action?

Do you even know what it means to be Christ like?


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I do, and I'm not a Communist trying to turn America away from God like you.

"27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." "

Which one of these 3 are you and Pelosi not doing, hmm?

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

You do a greater disservice to the Bible than I ever could by claiming this nation behaves in a Christ like manner.

If you knew anything about the Bible or Jesus you would know that he would be disgusted at the idea of a “Christian” nation. Christianity is supposed to be about a personal relationship with Jesus.


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This nation was founded by Christians for Christians, flustered Gator, you've already outright lied about it. You wanna keep digging? Be my guest.

Religion and the Federal Government, Part 2 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

And yet the nation has never acted in a Christ like manner...why is that?

Maybe because nations cannot be “Christian”, only individuals can.

Perhaps you can show me the New Testament passages that speak of a Christian nation?

It is so painfully clear how many people have never read their bible


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[beautress]

Isn't there a way citizens can issue a petition to remove a really, really bad person from the House? Nancy Pelosi likely knows everything Hillary -"I lost everything off my Computer"-Clinton knows, including the information on rivals that were found in her area of the White House while she was living there.

Maybe that would wipe that smirk off her face if we petitioned to remove her evil influence from leadership. Because right now, she's leading our nation straight down..

Yes, the petition is known as an “election.” I’ve been told they have consequences.

Pants on fire, as usual, Faun the pawn.

There is a way citizens can pass a law if Congress is too craven, I just can't remember the name of it, and you want to ignore it if you had the legal cajones to admit it.

better remember it.

Yeah, well I know some of these fleabag lawyers around here know it, I just never went higher than Constitution 101, and that was more years old than most of our USMB posters are. <giggle>
I know there's a way the citizens of the country can override Congress, by invoking some kind of national vote. I just can't remember the term. Too many years ago. I might be able to load it into my search engine with my sketchy recollection. Be back, may not be soon. Thanks, Mr or Ms. Eder.

 

[Ambivalent1]

By "Christian nation", we are saying that Christianity is the predominant religious belief in the United States.

It is the majority religion that is for sure. But I do not think anyone could argue our government has ever acted in a Christian like manner.


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Best post evah!

Government isn't supposed to act in any religious manner. The problem I see is the left will attack Christianity, but then ignore muslims that try to influence our government.

You never read President Washington's state writings, letters, and presidential commentaries, did you. Well, I did. He mentioned the Lord Almighty in almost every single thing he ever put to the pen. You have ZERO idea.

He did indeed, he was also a Freemason though and they are antithetical to the Christian God. In fact after his election they performed the Freemason ritual of Apotheosis which means in their eyes he became a god.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Isn't there a way citizens can issue a petition to remove a really, really bad person from the House? Nancy Pelosi likely knows everything Hillary -"I lost everything off my Computer"-Clinton knows, including the information on rivals that were found in her area of the White House while she was living there.

Maybe that would wipe that smirk off her face if we petitioned to remove her evil influence from leadership. Because right now, she's leading our nation straight down..

Yes, the petition is known as an “election.” I’ve been told they have consequences.

Pants on fire, as usual, Faun the pawn.

There is a way citizens can pass a law if Congress is too craven, I just can't remember the name of it, and you want to ignore it if you had the legal cajones to admit it.

better remember it.

Yeah, well I know some of these fleabag lawyers around here know it, I just never went higher than Constitution 101, and that was more years old than most of our USMB posters are. <giggle>

you are calling another poster a liar, and have nothing to back that up.

pathetic.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Is Pelosi pandering to the Muslims or to the Butt Pirates?
We just have to accept that Christians are not welcomed in the Democratic Party.

 

[BS Filter]

It is the majority religion that is for sure. But I do not think anyone could argue our government has ever acted in a Christian like manner.


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Best post evah!

Government isn't supposed to act in any religious manner. The problem I see is the left will attack Christianity, but then ignore muslims that try to influence our government.

We have a First Amendment that was written so clearly for the persecuted Christians who came to America under the threat of death from the persecutors of European extraction including countries who in the 10th to 17th Century (and more) persecuted Pilgrims whose ONLY hope was to leave the Royals-ruled kingdoms and come to the New World promises that they could establish colonies that would free them from their oppressors. Almost all of them were Christians and Jews whose denominations were roundly renounced from Arabia to the northernmost seas of Europe. When our fathers and mothers got here, their homelands and "owners" roundly taxed them for all they were worth.

Don't you try to pass off that bullshit on me. The muslims have been trying to get rid of the jews since Abraham and Sarah, mother of Isaac, sent Hagar and Ishmael away to live to keep the peace since there was none between Sarah and Hagar. (Genesis 17-21) They had a dysfunctional family, and it never went away. In World War II, Hitler allied himself with the Arabs to justify his removing and assassinating people of Jewish descent in Germany and conquering all European countries, also to do away with Jews .

Here's the first evidence I found that this is true:
Al-Husayni salutes the recruits on the cover of magazine "Vienna Illustrated" November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: ""To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory. Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler" From Al Husseini to Hitler :Radical Islam and the Nazi connection - Pan Arabism to the PA - Militant Islam Monitor - Militant Islam Monitor

Page 13 of 16
The Nazi Roots of Modern Radical Islam
By Tom Knowlton

The recent "Letter to the American People" allegedly authored by Osama bin Laden is a virtual ideological manifesto for Islamic extremists. It serves to outline the perceived grievances of radical Muslims against Israel and the West.

The letter claims, "It is the Muslims who are the inheritors of Moses," dating the conflict between Jews and Arabs back to the Biblical conflict between Abraham's two children: his eldest son, Ishmael (from who Arabs are believed descended), and his younger son, Isaac (from who Jews are believed descended). Some Muslims believe that Isaac usurped Ishmael's birthright.

Likewise, prominent imams such as Abu Qatada, Omar Muhammad Bakri, and Abu Hamza regularly echo this claim that Arabs and Jews have been bitter enemies from the dawn of time.

However, if one examines the history of the Middle East, there is very little evidence of constant warring and animosity between Jews and Arabs.

In fact, when the city of Jerusalem fell to Christian Crusaders in 1099, the defenders of the holy city had been a combined force of Jews and Muslims. After the Crusaders captured the city, they massacred Muslim and Jewish citizens alike and left the survivors to flee Jerusalem. Not until the Muslim hero Saladin defeated the Crusaders in 1187, did the Jewish population even begin to return to Jerusalem.

Jerusalem's Jewish community continued to prosper under the Muslim Nahmanides in 1267. But the community's true renaissance occurred during the 15th and 16th centuries, when a large influx of Jews were welcomed into Jerusalem by the Ottoman Empire after being expelled from Spain.

For four centuries under Ottoman rule, Arab and Jewish neighborhoods peacefully coexisted. After the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, the region came under British mandate. The early days under the British also saw relatively peaceful coexistence continuing and manifesting itself in the form of Arab and Jewish neighborhoods springing up in the "garden neighborhoods" of Talpiot, Rehavia and Beit Hakerem.

However, after over 700 years of peaceful coexistence, the true start of the Arab-Israeli conflict can be dated to 1920 and the rise of one man, Haj Amin Muhammad Al Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem. As grand mufti, al Husseini presided as the Imam of the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, the highest Muslim authority in the British mandate.

History shows Al Husseini to be a brutal man with aspirations to rule a pan-Arabic empire in the Middle East. He rose to prominence by actively eliminating those Jews and Arabs he considered a threat to his control of Jerusalem's Arab population, and he heavily utilized anti-Jewish propaganda to polarize the two communities.

In 1920 and again in 1929, Al Husseini incited anti-Jewish riots by claiming the Jews were plotting to destroy the Al Asqa mosque. The riots resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Jewish civilians and a virtual end to the Jewish presence in Hebron.

The 1936 Arab revolt against the British is believed to have been at least partially funded by Nazi Adolf Eichmann, and Al Husseini again ordered armed Arab militias to massacre Jewish citizens.

When British authorities finally quelled the rebellion in 1939, Al Husseini fled to neighboring Iraq and helped to orchestrate a 1941 anti-British jihad. As in Jerusalem, the British successfully put down the rebellion and Al Husseini fled to Nazi Germany.

Al Husseini found the Nazis to be a strong ideological match with his anti-Jewish brand of Islam, and schemed with Hitler and the Nazi hierarchy to create a pro-Nazi pan-Arabic form of government in the Middle East.

Dr. Serge Trifkovic documents the similarities between Al Husseini's brand of radical Islam and Nazism in his book The Sword of the Prophet. He noted parallels in both ideologies: anti-Semitism, quest for world dominance, demand for the total subordination of the free will of the individual, belief in the abolishment of the nation-state in favor of a "higher" community (in Islam the umma or community of all believers; in Nazism, the herrenvolk or master race), and belief in undemocratic governance by a "divine" leader (an Islamic caliph, or Nazi führer).

The Nazis provided Al Husseini with luxurious accommodations in Berlin and a monthly stipend in excess of $10,000. In return, he regularly appeared on German radio touting the Jews as the "most fierce enemies of Muslims," and implored an adoption of the Nazi "final solution" by Arabs. After the Nazi defeat at El Alamein in 1942, Al Husseini broadcast radio messages on Radio Berlin calling for continued Arabic resistance to Allied forces. In time, he came to be known as the "Fuhrer's Mufti" and the "Arab Fuhrer."

There's a lot more here, plus 12 pages before and several pages after this page: From Al Husseini to Hitler :Radical Islam and the Nazi connection - Pan Arabism to the PA - Militant Islam Monitor - Militant Islam Monitor

Hitler's suicide didn't resolve the Muslim desire to murder all Jews in the Holy Lands, either.
1972 Muslim Munich Olympic Terrorists Worked w/ Nazis to Murder Israeli Olympic Team; German Intelligence Ignored Tip
As we know, Muslims and Nazis worked together during the Holocaust–with two Muslim SS units rounding up and murdering Jews and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem helping Hitler plan the final solution. And we know that Muslims and Nazis worked together after the Holocaust, with many top SS members–such as Alois Brunner and Aribert Heim–taking refuge in Muslim countries, some of them converting to Islam (as Heim did), and many of them helping Muslims develop poisonous weapons and missiles against Israel (as Heim also did). And so it should be no surprise that German Nazis helped the Munich Olympic terrorists carry out the massacre of most of the Israeli Olympic team in 1972, the tragic 40th anniversary of which occurs this September.

Muslim Munich Olympic Terrorists Worked w/ Nazis to Murder Israeli Olympic Team; German Intelligence Ignored Tip

It just never, never goes away.

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Want to show me where in the 1st Amendment it is for Christians only?
Too bad your history of England and Europe is so poor you misinterpret why the Pilgrims were thrown out of every country they fled to..and how harsh they were when established in the US why they didn't even allow Christmas celebrations.

So? Neither do Jehovah's Witnesses.

 

[22lcidw]

The US absolutely IS a Christian nation. To deny that is being disingenuous.

"Almighty GOD; we make our earnest prayer that Thou wilt keep the United States in Thy holy protection, that thou wilt incline the hearts of the citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to government; and entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another and for their fellow citizens of the United States of America at large. And finally that Thou wilt most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility and pacific temper of mind which were the characteristics of The Divine Author of our blessed religion, and without whose example in these things we can never hope to be a happy nation. Grant our supplication, we beseech thee, through Jesus Christ Our Lord. Amen"

^Who prayed that, then? Damn sure wasn't Tashib Mohammed.

Spoiler

"If you want to know" http://lmgtfy.com/?q=washington+prayer+america

That is a very nice prayer...one man’s words that the country as a whole never lived up to.

Was the slavery of the time a Christ like action?

Was our treatment of the local people as we moved westward a Christ like action?

Do you even know what it means to be Christ like?


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I do, and I'm not a Communist trying to turn America away from God like you.

"27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." "

Which one of these 3 are you and Pelosi not doing, hmm?

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

You do a greater disservice to the Bible than I ever could by claiming this nation behaves in a Christ like manner.

If you knew anything about the Bible or Jesus you would know that he would be disgusted at the idea of a “Christian” nation. Christianity is supposed to be about a personal relationship with Jesus.


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This nation was founded by Christians for Christians, flustered Gator, you've already outright lied about it. You wanna keep digging? Be my guest.

Religion and the Federal Government, Part 2 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

And yet the nation has never acted in a Christ like manner...why is that?

Maybe because nations cannot be “Christian”, only individuals can.

Perhaps you can show me the New Testament passages that speak of a Christian nation?

It is so painfully clear how many people have never read their bible


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Christianity helped the Western World to be dominant and enable men and women in great numbers to have a much more comfortable life then other parts of the world. No matter how many wrongs you can spout. Combine that with the British "rule of law" and Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution and it worked better then most any in human history. This is how tough it is for humanity to be civil.

 

[BS Filter]

Is Pelosi pandering to the Muslims or to the Butt Pirates?
We just have to accept that Christians are not welcomed in the Democratic Party.

Correct. Bible believers are not welcome in the demonrat party. However, if you're a misogynistic muslim, you're defended by the demonrat party.

 

[BS Filter]

Have any of you Lefties visited the MLK memorial in Washington DC? If you do, you will see scripture, after scripture, after scripture chiseled out in stone all around the memorial.

How can we let this stand with a separation of church and state?

The memorial must be torn down!!!!!!!!!!

Hardly does the statue represent the state..

Not the point, the point is that it's on Gov property and precedent (though incorrect) says it shouldn't be there.

There are numerous Christian symbols on Gov property. You better start in Washington DC.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Have any of you Lefties visited the MLK memorial in Washington DC? If you do, you will see scripture, after scripture, after scripture chiseled out in stone all around the memorial.

How can we let this stand with a separation of church and state?

The memorial must be torn down!!!!!!!!!!

Hardly does the statue represent the state..

Not the point, the point is that it's on Gov property and precedent (though incorrect) says it shouldn't be there.

There are numerous Christian symbols on Gov property. You better start in Washington DC.

That's the point, the hypocrisy of the Left's outrage.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That is a very nice prayer...one man’s words that the country as a whole never lived up to.

Was the slavery of the time a Christ like action?

Was our treatment of the local people as we moved westward a Christ like action?

Do you even know what it means to be Christ like?


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I do, and I'm not a Communist trying to turn America away from God like you.

"27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." "

Which one of these 3 are you and Pelosi not doing, hmm?

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

You do a greater disservice to the Bible than I ever could by claiming this nation behaves in a Christ like manner.

If you knew anything about the Bible or Jesus you would know that he would be disgusted at the idea of a “Christian” nation. Christianity is supposed to be about a personal relationship with Jesus.


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This nation was founded by Christians for Christians, flustered Gator, you've already outright lied about it. You wanna keep digging? Be my guest.

Religion and the Federal Government, Part 2 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

And yet the nation has never acted in a Christ like manner...why is that?

Maybe because nations cannot be “Christian”, only individuals can.

Perhaps you can show me the New Testament passages that speak of a Christian nation?

It is so painfully clear how many people have never read their bible


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Christianity helped the Western World to be dominant and enable men and women in great numbers to have a much more comfortable life then other parts of the world. No matter how many wrongs you can spout. Combine that with the British "rule of law" and Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution and it worked better then most any in human history. This is how tough it is for humanity to be civil.

And yet none of that makes it possible for there to be such a thing as a Christian nation.


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[LordBrownTrout]

A "Christian nation" would have universal healthcare and no death penalty...

And not murdering innocent babies....right?

Who does that? Oh wait, are you talking about abortion? You know, they terminated unwanted pregnancies in Jesus's time too. Weird that its never mentioned in the bible.

We do that. We kill innocent babies.

Jesus came and fulfilled the old testament. Its mentioned in the bible.

"Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward" Psalm 127:3.

 

[anynameyouwish]

I voted NO

PeLousy can not and will not eliminate

GOD from the house vote

she is another piece of Satanist ....like her sister Hillary Clinton

both will burn in Hell!

BOTH.

And you really expect me to respect that opinion?

You get as much respect as a lunatic deserves.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Is Pelosi pandering to the Muslims or to the Butt Pirates?
We just have to accept that Christians are not welcomed in the Democratic Party.

Correct. Bible believers are not welcome in the demonrat party. However, if you're a misogynistic muslim, you're defended by the demonrat party.

What's hilarious is that she just came out a couple of days ago and flatly stated that Dems were doing the work of God.

 

[beautress]

Isn't there a way citizens can issue a petition to remove a really, really bad person from the House? Nancy Pelosi likely knows everything Hillary -"I lost everything off my Computer"-Clinton knows, including the information on rivals that were found in her area of the White House while she was living there.

Maybe that would wipe that smirk off her face if we petitioned to remove her evil influence from leadership. Because right now, she's leading our nation straight down..

Yes, the petition is known as an “election.” I’ve been told they have consequences.

Pants on fire, as usual, Faun the pawn.

There is a way citizens can pass a law if Congress is too craven, I just can't remember the name of it, and you want to ignore it if you had the legal cajones to admit it.

better remember it.

Yeah, well I know some of these fleabag lawyers around here know it, I just never went higher than Constitution 101, and that was more years old than most of our USMB posters are. <giggle>

you are calling another poster a liar, and have nothing to back that up.

pathetic.

That may not mean what you think, dear. But pathetic? Fauns were very naughty creatures you know.

As for the part about citizens being able to insist on being heard on an issue by organizing a national campaign, that may have been because I was listening to some radical professor deliver his speech on why if all else failed for people they could find a way to do that. It might be the stuff of the Ninth Amendment which the founders, who often disagreed on one thing and another, built in a way for people to be heard when the powers that be aren't paying us any attention. All I could find on that is that people trying to use the 9th Amendment may have a difficult time convincing the powers that be that we can do it, and we have 3 powers that be-both houses of Congress, the Supremes, and the Executive branch, not to mention the fourth column that is 95% dead set against conservatives, and especially Christian conservatives. What can I say, Ms. Eder, except it ain't over till it's over.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Yes, the petition is known as an “election.” I’ve been told they have consequences.

Pants on fire, as usual, Faun the pawn.

There is a way citizens can pass a law if Congress is too craven, I just can't remember the name of it, and you want to ignore it if you had the legal cajones to admit it.

better remember it.

Yeah, well I know some of these fleabag lawyers around here know it, I just never went higher than Constitution 101, and that was more years old than most of our USMB posters are. <giggle>

you are calling another poster a liar, and have nothing to back that up.

pathetic.

That may not mean what you think, dear. But pathetic? Fauns were very naughty creatures you know.

As for the part about citizens being able to insist on being heard on an issue by organizing a national campaign, that may have been because I was listening to some radical professor deliver his speech on why if all else failed for people they could find a way to do that. It might be the stuff of the Ninth Amendment which the founders, who often disagreed on one thing and another, built in a way for people to be heard when the powers that be aren't paying us any attention. All I could find on that is that people trying to use the 9th Amendment may have a difficult time convincing the powers that be that we can do it, and we have 3 powers that be-both houses of Congress, the Supremes, and the Executive branch, not to mention the fourth column that is 95% dead set against conservatives, and especially Christian conservatives. What can I say, Ms. Eder, except it ain't over till it's over.

cool story, bro.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Keep your fairy tales out of my government.

Atheism isn't protected by the First Amendment, Dude or dudette. The Bill of Rights was written to protect Christian Pilgrims from the persecution their beliefs received before getting kicked out of screwed up Europe and its artsy fartsy Monarchs who hated the poor and negated them to be labeled peons, riff-raff, pisanos, etc.

But not to worry. Nobody will bother you if you leave our laws and protections alone.

"Atheism isn't protected by the First Amendment, Dude or dudette."

so atheists have no rights?


"The Bill of Rights was written to protect Christian Pilgrims from the persecution their beliefs received before getting kicked out of screwed up Europe and its artsy fartsy Monarchs who hated the poor and negated them to be labeled peons, riff-raff, pisanos, etc."

No it wasn't. If this is an example of home schooling then home schooling should be abolished!

The pilgrims were the 2nd permanent colony after Jamestown.
The pilgrims were a religious sect who left their homelands because THEY were NOT ALLOWED to persecute and discriminate against others. They came to the new land to establish a colony for that purpose. However, that was JUST ONE SMALL COLONY and it wasn't even the FIRST permanent colony.

After that many other "colonies" arrived, many of them with DIFFERENT religious lunacies from the Pilgrims.

By the time the BILL OF FKN RIGHTS was written in the 1791 the pilgrims were just a footnote in history.

Thomas Paine, instrumental in rallying the forces, was an avowed atheist and MANY of the writers of the constitution and the Bill of Rights DEISTS rather than avowed christians.

The fact that YOU and every other conservative keep saying that the constitution is meant for YOU but NOT FOR ME FKN PROVES which one of us is/are the nazi/fascists.


"But not to worry. Nobody will bother you if you leave our laws and protections alone."

YOUR laws?
like.....biblical laws?
like...thou must not suffer a gay or a wiccan or a non believer to live?

They are NOT "your laws".
They are OUR laws
OUR constitution
OUR country.