CDZ Marriage IS the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Keys' keeps insisting he is an authority. He argues

The assertion is supported by the self-evident fact that contracts; social or otherwise require that the signatories must be qualified to enter into the agreement.

To be qualified for marriage, one must apply for the license with a person of distinct from their gender. Because Nature designed the species with two distinct but complimenting genders; each, respectively designed to join with the other...

This is a fact of nature.

The bolded above is the error.

Nonsense.

The authority is highlighted in Enlarged Bold, Italicized and underlined Red Font.

Posted again, for your edification.

Nature designed the species with two distinct but complimenting genders; each, respectively designed to join with the other...

This establishing the human physiological standard of Marriage.

It's not even remotely, a debatable point. With your subjective need to debate it, notwithstanding.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That's your observation. You easily could have watched two men, two women, etc. There is no "self-evident fact" despite your assertion. You are not an authority. The natural physiology of sex does not require a social contract of any sort.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

That's your observation. You easily could have watched two men, two women, etc.

No... because men are not designed to join with one another and neither are woman.

What's more the inability to recognize reality presents as an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

There is no "self-evident fact" [/QUOTE]

False. With your inability to recognize reality, notwithstanding.

Now, with that said, you are hereby relegated back to ignore.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

That's your observation. You easily could have watched two men, two women, etc.

No... because men are not designed to join with one another and neither are woman.

What's more the inability to recognize reality presents as an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

There is no "self-evident fact"

False. With your inability to recognize reality, notwithstanding.

Now, with that said, you concession is duly noted and summarily accepted. And you are hereby relegated back to ignore.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Keys fails in saying (1) his observation somehow leads to a self-evidenced fact that marriage is grounded in physiology. (2) And he wants to exclude the other sexual patterns besides one man and one woman. (3) His logic fails because the assertion fails.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Reader, it is clear from the evidence of this thread; as it is on all threads of discussion on this topic, that the myopic appeal to popularity being waged by the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality is; like all such appeals, merely a means to avoid discussing the facts relevant to the issue.

They tell you that Religion is prejudiced against them and that such is not fair. So you take Religion out of the equation, speaking purely of the scientific aspects, regarding the mental disorder that presents as sexual deviancy and they still reject reality, with every bit the zeal of the Islamic Fundamentalist.

You then provide them the means to demonstrate the mental disorder; wherein every single element of such is advanced by one deviant after another and they can find no means to accept the realities associated with that.

But for those not saddled with Delusion, it becomes clear; and very quickly, that while "homosexuals are people too...", they are a very sick group of people with whom there is no means to compromise, as like their Ideological comrades, they lack the means to see reality in any way that does not fit within their own personal societal, historical and context; thus they lack the means for even the slightest objectivity and as a consequence they will never be able to rise above the tyranny of their own subjective needs.

As a result I am left with no alternative but to conclude that the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality is little more than a long train of abusive deceits... Fraudulences designed to no end beyond the attempt to influence those whose ignorance of even the most rudimentary facts regarding human physiology, provides for them to be easily misled.

This produces all of the elements common to those who have a misguided and excessive admiration for the strange and sinister ideas, which cannot be swayed by reality and sound reason; OKA: A Cult.

Throughout the United States today we find a militant mindset defending these strange and sinister ideas, where even the slightest public contest is resulting in violent repercussions... demonstrating that in truth, there is a mass delusion that is quickly spreading across the nation and what you have seen across this board in denials of fundamental truths; that humanity is designed with two distinct Genders which are designed specifically for the respective genders to join together... that Marriage is a consequence of that design; in another thread, we have individuals claiming that Marriage has NEVER been between males and females... in each of these threads there are bold faced denials that homosexuality deviates from the human physiological sexual standard.

These are creepy to be sure, but they present serious, deeply seated delusion; OKA: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

A darkness is falling over the United States... and I do not mean nighttime. Stand up as an individual and demand that your peers stand up with you against this mess. Or you and I, and all out children will be devoured by this mess.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Marriage is contract law, written by the states and administered by state courts.

Would you please provide a copy of one of these contracts?

I am specifically looking for the essential elements which must exist in any contract for such to bind one to another.

A marriage requires license... thus only those who are qualified within the scope of that license are qualified for such.

What is the basis of the license?

If Marriage is available to anyone for any reason... then what would be the purpose of a license?

(Reader, you're going to find that the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality will come to advise you that the notion of 'license' itself is being challenged here. Thus in order to qualify individuals of the same gender to 'marry', the ANSA must delude the concept of marriage itself, to that which is roughly meaningless, even as they walk the tightrope to prevent you from realizing that such is the case.)

Consider this as you wait for the non-responsive response to come, since the ANSA has come, how many times have you heard 'What business does government have to be involved in Marriage?'.

Which means, what business do you and I have in establishing standards?

What Business do you and I have in the viability of our selves, our families, our neighborhood, our community, our state and our nation?

The Cult ANSA is that only THEY have any business deciding what marriage means and they represent at most 3% of the population.

So in effect, if you live in a community with 100 people, the odds are that 3 of them are ANSA... now in your own experience, would you say that 3 people in your community have a right to determine the standards of your community?

ANSA says 'of course not, because we are the majority'.

But every time the issue is voted on, ANSA is no where NEAR a majority... which is why ANSA has to use the judicial system to overturn the LAW that established the marriage standard, to which ANSA's response is, "The Majority has no right to determine the rights of the minority...".

Which is true... but the majority does have the right to establish the standards by which we must all abide. And we do that through LEGISLATION.

Understand, that homosexuals are not being told that they cannot marry. Homosexuals are being told that to marry, they must do so with a person of the opposite gender; just like EVERYONE ELSE.

They'll tell you that the JUDICIARY decided that THAT is not true, because 'Legislation used to say that blacks could not marry whites'; which is true.

But "Black" or the genetic composition which produces black people, is NOT BEHAVIOR... Homosexuality IS BEHAVIOR, which has absolutely NO GENETIC component.

We... each of us have a serious interests in the standards of behavior we accept and we do not accept. And we sometimes make mistakes in what we decide is behavior worthy of accepting.

And Reader, we made a huge mistake when we decided to lift the laws forbidding sodomy... because that sent the signal that we no longer had an interests in setting standards for all manner of things, not the least of which is marriage.

Now let's wait and see if the ANSA comes... and how they'll shape it, given the argument which exposes their pat response as deceitful drivel.

 

[my2¢]

My view of marriage is that it is a religious matter. I believe the government should only deal with civil unions thus removing the matter of Biblical interpretation and more properly aligning government powers with those specified in the Constitution.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

My view of marriage is that it is a religious matter. I believe the government should only deal with civil unions thus removing the matter of Biblical interpretation and more properly aligning government powers with those specified in the Constitution.

I get that... but the problem is that outside of the Religious implications of Marriage, which recognize the natural purpose for marriage... there's no actual reason with regard TO Marriage.

And that is the purpose for the Left's attack UPON Marriage... to render it meaningless.

Now... as the nucleus of civilization... There are few things in life that are more MEANINGFUL, than Marriage.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The Reader should note that the challenges have gone without response and that is because the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality has no defense.