Man uses his concealed gun to save life of woman entering abortion clinic...likely there to kill her baby. Leftists cry.

[NoNukes]

You post so much shit without saying where it is from. Probably from some gun website.

There are links in damn near every post he makes, you mental midget!

Not all links are good links you moron.

OK, now you're just lying.

Just telling the truth. His sources are laughable. You Are really letting yourself down

 

[JoeB131]

With just about every post, you lie.....

Obviously, you flunked history. The Weimar Republic instituted gun laws, but the Nazis revoked most of them because they saw gun ownership as a symbol of Aryan "manliness". And those Germans never raised their guns against the Nazis... they fought for Hitler down to the last old man and little boy

The national socialists used the gun registration lists....implemented in the 1920s, to take guns away from the very people they planned on murdering, the Jews, political enemies and the various groups they planned on targeting for death....so you anti-gun extremists keep pedaling the lie that the national socialists increased gun ownership...you idiots

No, gun nut. The German Jews really weren't the issue in the Holocaust. Most of them had the good sense to flee Germany before the war started. In fact, 75% of Germany and Austria's Jews survived the war because they got the fuck out of the way.

Most of the Jews who were killed were in Poland, Hungary and Russia....

Now, the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto had guns... but they didn't even TRY taking on the Nazis until 1944 when they heard the Red Army was close. Stalin just sat by and laughed as they were all slaughtered, because the Germans had TANKS.

You see, if you want to own a gun because you think you are going to chase away a criminal, that's almost sensible if you ignore the fact that you are 43 times more likely to kill a family member with that gun.

But your chances of ever overthrowing the government with a gun is absolutely zero.

 

[Hollie]

With just about every post, you lie.....

Obviously, you flunked history. The Weimar Republic instituted gun laws, but the Nazis revoked most of them because they saw gun ownership as a symbol of Aryan "manliness". And those Germans never raised their guns against the Nazis... they fought for Hitler down to the last old man and little boy

The national socialists used the gun registration lists....implemented in the 1920s, to take guns away from the very people they planned on murdering, the Jews, political enemies and the various groups they planned on targeting for death....so you anti-gun extremists keep pedaling the lie that the national socialists increased gun ownership...you idiots

No, gun nut. The German Jews really weren't the issue in the Holocaust. Most of them had the good sense to flee Germany before the war started. In fact, 75% of Germany and Austria's Jews survived the war because they got the fuck out of the way.

Most of the Jews who were killed were in Poland, Hungary and Russia....

Now, the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto had guns... but they didn't even TRY taking on the Nazis until 1944 when they heard the Red Army was close. Stalin just sat by and laughed as they were all slaughtered, because the Germans had TANKS.

You see, if you want to own a gun because you think you are going to chase away a criminal, that's almost sensible if you ignore the fact that you are 43 times more likely to kill a family member with that gun.

But your chances of ever overthrowing the government with a gun is absolutely zero.

"But your chances of ever overthrowing the government with a gun is absolutely zero.''

That's true when the totalitarian regimes strip the population of firearms.

Hey, isn't that what the 19th and 20th century totalitarian regimes actually did? (rhetorical question)

Hey, isn't that what the totalitarian regime of the democrats is trying to do? (rhetorical question).

 

[JoeB131]

As you like to bring up the history of slavery and Jim Crow, you must be so proud of the party of democrats; the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Racist demagogues in the democrat party, even now, are far more concerned with maintaining their followers in Antifah and various Marxist groups for the control they hope to exert. Stoking racial divides is what democrats do.

Not really. The Democrats threw out the Southern Inbreds in 1964, and the Republicans welcomed them with open arms.

Naw, man. You seem to have missed important history. I suppose at your leftist madrassah, they weren't real accurate with history lessons.

sorry, the Nazis loved guns as much as you do. That's the thing.

Germans had plenty of guns. The Jews didn't, but the funny thing is, there really weren't a whole lot of Jews in Germany to start with. Like less than 1% of the population.

But the 99% of Germans who could have all the guns they wanted, very few of them rose up against Hitler. The July 22 plot was a complete fiasco that failed in hours.

You see, all your ranting about "government". . Government is US. Every bad behavior of a government was enthusiastically supported by the people.

The average Turk HATED Armenians... They weren't loyal to the Sultan and really fell down on the job fighting the Russians.

The average German HATED Jews. You think Hitler said, "Let's get the Jews" and anyone actually objected? Of course they didn't. Martin Luther, the father of Lutheranism, wrote a book called "The Jews and their Lies". There really wasn't a pro-Jewish German political party.

So, no, I don't think you having a gun protects you from government. What it does is put us at a risk that one of you nuts are going to go around shooting people because the voices in your head tell you to.

 

[JoeB131]

"But your chances of ever overthrowing the government with a gun is absolutely zero.''

That's true when the totalitarian regimes strip the population of firearms.

Hey, isn't that what the 19th and 20th century totalitarian regimes actually did? (rhetorical question)

Actually, they rarely did and never had to. Germans had plenty of guns and they used them to fight for Hitler to the last old man and little boy.

This is the point you don't get. No government exists without the tacit support of it's people.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You [Incel Joe] probably belong in a mental ward.

I think you may have misspelled “prison”.

 

[Hollie]

As you like to bring up the history of slavery and Jim Crow, you must be so proud of the party of democrats; the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Racist demagogues in the democrat party, even now, are far more concerned with maintaining their followers in Antifah and various Marxist groups for the control they hope to exert. Stoking racial divides is what democrats do.

Not really. The Democrats threw out the Southern Inbreds in 1964, and the Republicans welcomed them with open arms.

Naw, man. You seem to have missed important history. I suppose at your leftist madrassah, they weren't real accurate with history lessons.

sorry, the Nazis loved guns as much as you do. That's the thing.

Germans had plenty of guns. The Jews didn't, but the funny thing is, there really weren't a whole lot of Jews in Germany to start with. Like less than 1% of the population.

But the 99% of Germans who could have all the guns they wanted, very few of them rose up against Hitler. The July 22 plot was a complete fiasco that failed in hours.

You see, all your ranting about "government". . Government is US. Every bad behavior of a government was enthusiastically supported by the people.

The average Turk HATED Armenians... They weren't loyal to the Sultan and really fell down on the job fighting the Russians.

The average German HATED Jews. You think Hitler said, "Let's get the Jews" and anyone actually objected? Of course they didn't. Martin Luther, the father of Lutheranism, wrote a book called "The Jews and their Lies". There really wasn't a pro-Jewish German political party.

So, no, I don't think you having a gun protects you from government. What it does is put us at a risk that one of you nuts are going to go around shooting people because the voices in your head tell you to.

You throw ''phacts'' around like you're playing midget tossing.

On the other hand,

MSN

U.S. gun sales in the first six months of 2021 surged 15% to 22,243,220 from the same six months last year. This makes it the largest first half of the year figure since sales were first recorded in 1998.



Thank you, democrats. You're the best gun salespeople on the planet.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Just telling the truth. His sources are laughable. You Are really letting yourself down

You would not know the truth if it marched past you playing Thriller on a pink flugelhorn.

 

[Hollie]

"But your chances of ever overthrowing the government with a gun is absolutely zero.''

That's true when the totalitarian regimes strip the population of firearms.

Hey, isn't that what the 19th and 20th century totalitarian regimes actually did? (rhetorical question)

Actually, they rarely did and never had to. Germans had plenty of guns and they used them to fight for Hitler to the last old man and little boy.

This is the point you don't get. No government exists without the tacit support of it's people.

Actually, the history of totalitarian regimes making it illegal for undesirables to own guns and often confiscating guns is a well documented portion of history. I gave you links to the data. You respond with your usual, ''nuh uh, naw man, ..... because I say so'' nonsense.

 

[JoeB131]

I think you may have misspelled “prison”.

Yeah, that Joe guy, committing all those crimes.

Like when he was convicted of selling fake Divining Rods in NY in 1825.
Or convicted of Bank Fraud in Ohio in the Kirtland Bank scandal in 1837
Or when he was inciting terrorism in Missouri in 1838 leading his bands of "Danites".
Or when he was locked up for Polygamy in 1845... oh, wait they took him out and shot him before he could run somewhere else.

Oh, wait... That wasn't JoeB131... That was Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism.

(This is a bunch of history of your sick, demented cult they didn't teach you about in Temple, I'm sure.)

 

[JoeB131]

Actually, the history of totalitarian regimes making it illegal for undesirables to own guns and often confiscating guns is a well documented portion of history. I gave you links to the data. You respond with your usual, ''nuh uh, naw man, ..... because I say so'' nonsense.

But it was all crap... that was the thing. If anything, gun proliferation makes a totalitarian regime more likely, because the armed thugs don't bother with little things called "elections".

You know, like Mussolini's March on Rome.

March on Rome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Hollie]

Actually, the history of totalitarian regimes making it illegal for undesirables to own guns and often confiscating guns is a well documented portion of history. I gave you links to the data. You respond with your usual, ''nuh uh, naw man, ..... because I say so'' nonsense.

But it was all crap... that was the thing. If anything, gun proliferation makes a totalitarian regime more likely, because the armed thugs don't bother with little things called "elections".

You know, like Mussolini's March on Rome.

March on Rome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow. Insightful response, ''it was all crap''.

Rather strange how totalitarian regimes have a common theme of disarming the population.

You obviously missed it but Hitler and Stalin both noticed the lack of world reaction to the slaughter of Turkish Christians and planned accordingly. Unarmed civilians are easy prey for totalitarian regimes and the criminal element. The democrats know this. They use the ''assault weapon" slogan as a means to disarm Americans, by forceable confiscation if necessary. Yet, it's a laughable joke when Biden's pick for ATF director cannot even define what an ''asdault weapon'' is.

Ask yourself a simple question: Were the Armenians, the Jews, the Soviet citizen treated better, or worse, after they were disarmed and made helpless by the totalitarian oppressors who thereafter held an absolute government monopoly on armed violence? The answer is too obvious to require elaboration.

Let me guess. You believe the radical islamists in the 'squad' have your best interests at heart.

 

[JoeB131]

Rather strange how totalitarian regimes have a common theme of disarming the population.

Except they really don't. But I guess if you think repeating the same mantras work, have at it.

That's kind of how cults work.

Ask yourself a simple question: Were the Armenians, the Jews, the Soviet citizen treated better, or worse, after they were disarmed and made helpless by the totalitarian oppressors who thereafter held an absolute government monopoly on armed violence? The answer is too obvious to require elaboration.

The problem is, it's just not true. That's the thing.

The Armenians were never armed. The Jews in Germany had bigger problems than gun ownership, and most Soviets actually benefited from Stalin's rule. It's why he's considered Russias third greatest historical figure.

If you actually knew anything about history, you'd know most history is a lot more complicated.


So let's take the obvious example, the Jews in Germany. Let's say they kept their guns. And let's say the first day the SS comes to round them up, what happens?

Oh. Wait. Here's what happens. Dr. Goebbels gets in the radio and says how brave Germans were shot in the back by Cowardly Jews. Then they come back with tanks.

In fact, that is EXACTLY what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto.

 

[Hollie]

Leftists are in denial. Thats the thing. I can't help but notice you offered nothing but the usual unsupported opinion as opposed to actual data. The Jews in Germany had problems. They were stripped of any means to defend themselves. Those Stalin chose to purge had similarly been stripped of means to defend themselves.

Not surprisingly, you see Stalin as a totalitarian hero. Most of the world sees him as a violent sociopath. Odd how leftists find admiration for sociopaths.

If you knew anything about history, you would know that leftist sociopaths inflicted untold harm on humanity. Leftists and their contemporaries in communism will work themselves into a froth at the reading or hearing of the damage their ideology inflicts upon humanity. They’re determined to protect their favored ism against logical or moral assaults. The mere suggestion that leftism requires a Stalin – that it elevates a Stalin to power as surely as the leftist 'squad' barely manages a collective 75 IQ – is enough to provoke leftists into their safe space of ''.... because I say so'', because they're ignorant of the pain they have inflicted. So they whine and moan about “Socialism works, it was the fault of Donald Trump!” Absolutely anything rather than admit that their ism brings about the same horrendous consequences each and every time it’s tried.

 

[NoNukes]

Just telling the truth. His sources are laughable. You Are really letting yourself down

You would not know the truth if it marched past you playing Thriller on a pink flugelhorn.

Those of you on the right forget what truth is after 4 years of Trump's lies.

 

[JoeB131]

Leftists are in denial. Thats the thing. I can't help but notice you offered nothing but the usual unsupported opinion as opposed to actual data. The Jews in Germany had problems. They were stripped of any means to defend themselves.

Actually, they were stripped of all rights.

I noticed you skipped around my discussion of what would have happened if the Jews of Germany had guns.

Not that it matters. Most of the Jews killed in the Holocaust weren't German Jews, they were Jews from the countries Germany conquered. Those countries had guns, AND STILL LOST.

Those Stalin chose to purge had similarly been stripped of means to defend themselves.

Not surprisingly, you see Stalin as a totalitarian hero. Most of the world sees him as a violent sociopath. Odd how leftists find admiration for sociopaths.

No, I don't see him as a hero, but Russians do.

Stalin’s Approval Rating Among Russians Hits Record High – Poll - The Moscow Times

A record 70 percent of Russians approve of Soviet leader Josef Stalin’s role in Russian history, according to a poll published by the independent Levada Center pollster on Tuesday.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The difference between heroes and monsters is the difference between winners and losers. All the leaders in WWII did truly awful things, including our own. Hitler and Mussolini are reviled today because they lost. Churchill, FDR and Stalin are glorified today because they won. The Japanese are a whole different story, they are kind of in denial about the whole war.

 

[Hollie]

Leftists are in denial. Thats the thing. I can't help but notice you offered nothing but the usual unsupported opinion as opposed to actual data. The Jews in Germany had problems. They were stripped of any means to defend themselves.

Actually, they were stripped of all rights.

I noticed you skipped around my discussion of what would have happened if the Jews of Germany had guns.

Not that it matters. Most of the Jews killed in the Holocaust weren't German Jews, they were Jews from the countries Germany conquered. Those countries had guns, AND STILL LOST.

Those Stalin chose to purge had similarly been stripped of means to defend themselves.

Not surprisingly, you see Stalin as a totalitarian hero. Most of the world sees him as a violent sociopath. Odd how leftists find admiration for sociopaths.

No, I don't see him as a hero, but Russians do.

Stalin’s Approval Rating Among Russians Hits Record High – Poll - The Moscow Times

A record 70 percent of Russians approve of Soviet leader Josef Stalin’s role in Russian history, according to a poll published by the independent Levada Center pollster on Tuesday.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The difference between heroes and monsters is the difference between winners and losers. All the leaders in WWII did truly awful things, including our own. Hitler and Mussolini are reviled today because they lost. Churchill, FDR and Stalin are glorified today because they won. The Japanese are a whole different story, they are kind of in denial about the whole war.

You noticed I skipped around your conjecture of what would have happened if the German Jews had guns. Sorry, but the self-entitled all-knowing, all-seeing clairvoyant leftist who rewrites history with the ''... because I say so'', meme is not worth anyone's time.

It's fine if you agree that Stalin was a hero. That's not surprising as leftists often view sociopaths as heroes.

 

[JoeB131]

You noticed I skipped around your conjecture of what would have happened if the German Jews had guns. Sorry, but the self-entitled all-knowing, all-seeing clairvoyant leftist who rewrites history with the ''... because I say so'', meme is not worth anyone's time.

Uh, okay. Well, did you think that Dr. Goebbels was going to give a "fair and balanced" view of the shootout between a Jewish person and the SS?

Let me give you a hint. The ministry of propaganda used to publish a "Criminal Jew Report". The Nazis had the German people convinced the Jews did a bunch of things they didn't do.. imagine if they did manage to murder a German soldier or policeman?

This is the whole problem with the crazies who think "I needs my guns to fights the government". The government will always have better guns and usually more public support.

It's fine if you agree that Stalin was a hero. That's not surprising as leftists often view sociopaths as heroes.

Again, you guys support Trump... that's a sociopath.

 

[Hollie]

You noticed I skipped around your conjecture of what would have happened if the German Jews had guns. Sorry, but the self-entitled all-knowing, all-seeing clairvoyant leftist who rewrites history with the ''... because I say so'', meme is not worth anyone's time.

Uh, okay. Well, did you think that Dr. Goebbels was going to give a "fair and balanced" view of the shootout between a Jewish person and the SS?

Let me give you a hint. The ministry of propaganda used to publish a "Criminal Jew Report". The Nazis had the German people convinced the Jews did a bunch of things they didn't do.. imagine if they did manage to murder a German soldier or policeman?

This is the whole problem with the crazies who think "I needs my guns to fights the government". The government will always have better guns and usually more public support.

It's fine if you agree that Stalin was a hero. That's not surprising as leftists often view sociopaths as heroes.

Again, you guys support Trump... that's a sociopath.

Um, okay,. I see you abandoned your claim to the all-knowing, all-seeing leftist who can predict future events.

Let me enlighten you. The historical fact is that the worst of the leftist dystopias had a pattern of disarming the public to allow the worst atrocities.

The Founders of this country knew of government tyranny and oppression.

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

Again. Your delicate leftist feelings are hurt.

 

[NoNukes]

You noticed I skipped around your conjecture of what would have happened if the German Jews had guns. Sorry, but the self-entitled all-knowing, all-seeing clairvoyant leftist who rewrites history with the ''... because I say so'', meme is not worth anyone's time.

Uh, okay. Well, did you think that Dr. Goebbels was going to give a "fair and balanced" view of the shootout between a Jewish person and the SS?

Let me give you a hint. The ministry of propaganda used to publish a "Criminal Jew Report". The Nazis had the German people convinced the Jews did a bunch of things they didn't do.. imagine if they did manage to murder a German soldier or policeman?

This is the whole problem with the crazies who think "I needs my guns to fights the government". The government will always have better guns and usually more public support.

It's fine if you agree that Stalin was a hero. That's not surprising as leftists often view sociopaths as heroes.

Again, you guys support Trump... that's a sociopath.

Um, okay,. I see you abandoned your claim to the all-knowing, all-seeing leftist who can predict future events.

Let me enlighten you. The historical fact is that the worst of the leftist dystopias had a pattern of disarming the public to allow the worst atrocities.

The Founders of this country knew of government tyranny and oppression.

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

Again. Your delicate leftist feelings are hurt.

Jefferson had no idea of a country with such a powerful military.