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Man uses his concealed gun to save life of woman entering abortion clinic...likely there to kill her baby. Leftists cry.

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A woman was attempting to enter an abortion clinic was attacked by the man who brought her to the clinic....he started shooting at her. An Abortion protestor, armed with a concealed, legal, gun, fired on the attacker saving the woman's life.

But......But.....I thought people never used guns for actual self defense....right?

And two......saving the life of a woman who is there to end the life of her baby? Odd, isn't it.....

Here is the story...

The fact that an anti-abortion protestor saved a woman who was going into an abortion clinic should be very newsworthy. If the opposite had happened, if the protestor had harmed the woman, it would get national news. But this story of an anti-abortion protestor saving a woman’s life is only getting local news coverage. The event took place on Saturday, May 15th, 2021, at the Alamo Women’s Reproductive Services, 7402 John Smith Dr #101, San Antonio, TX 78229.

. No one was injured, San Antonio Police spokesperson crediting an armed bystander who returned fire.
No one was injured, San Antonio Police Department spokesperson Christopher Ramos said, crediting an armed bystander who returned fire.
The shooting happened Saturday around 8:30 a.m. in the 7400 block of John Smith Drive, near the intersection of Wurzbach and Babcock roads on the Northwest Side.
A man who arrived with a woman at the facility pulled out a gun and shot at the woman but missed, Ramos said during a morning press conference near the scene.
A person who was with a group of protesters near the clinic saw the shooter and used his handgun to fire at the man, police said. Police said the protester had a license to carry the pistol.


 

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There's a whole lot of irony in that story. Did she go ahead and kill the baby after the armed abortion protester saved her life?
 

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This story doesn't give out a whole lot of information, so I dug up another source.

According to a local news agency, this guy was hiding in the trunk of her car. When she stopped to get out at the clinic, he jumped out of the trunk and started shooting at her. The CCW holder then shot at the shooter. He ran and at least from what I read, was not found. The article also said it's not known if the shooter was hit or not.

 

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There is not enough information. Apparently, the guy who shot at her was hiding in the trunk of her car, and she knows him. I hope that they catch this guy and more information becomes known as to his motives. This does not seem to be a situation in which the shooter in the trunk was attempting to force her to have an abortion against her will.
 

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There is not enough information. Apparently, the guy who shot at her was hiding in the trunk of her car, and she knows him. I hope that they catch this guy and more information becomes known as to his motives. This does not seem to be a situation in which the shooter in the trunk was attempting to force her to have an abortion against her will.

It may be the opposite. This may have been the father of the expected child who wanted her to have the baby. We don't know.
 
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There is not enough information. Apparently, the guy who shot at her was hiding in the trunk of her car, and she knows him. I hope that they catch this guy and more information becomes known as to his motives. This does not seem to be a situation in which the shooter in the trunk was attempting to force her to have an abortion against her will.

It may be the opposite. This may have been the father of the expected child who wanted her to have the baby. We don't know.

One question then...if he was the father and didn't want her to abort the baby, then shooting and killing her is an odd choice.

We do need more info.
 

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One question then...if he was the father and didn't want her to abort the baby, then shooting and killing her is an odd choice.

We do need more info.

Yes, but you know how godless people are today. It's just one possibility I thought of.

The reason I came to that possibility is it's reported that she knew the shooter, meaning he could have shot her anytime. Why did he hide in the trunk of her car, drive to a place where a lot of people were, and shoot here there of all places? Seems like he was trying to make a statement of some sort.
 

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There is not enough information. Apparently, the guy who shot at her was hiding in the trunk of her car, and she knows him. I hope that they catch this guy and more information becomes known as to his motives. This does not seem to be a situation in which the shooter in the trunk was attempting to force her to have an abortion against her will.

It may be the opposite. This may have been the father of the expected child who wanted her to have the baby. We don't know.

One question then...if he was the father and didn't want her to abort the baby, then shooting and killing her is an odd choice.

We do need more info.
Yup. We do. My initial reaction to the headline was that the anti-abortion protester was saving the woman from someone trying to force her to have an abortion. But this seems not to be the case. She could have gone to the clinic for other reasons, and we don't know if she was even pregnant. All we know is that she was going to the clinic voluntarily, given that she drove herself there. This could turn out to be two anti-abortion guys having a shoot out.
 

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So two anti-choice nuts shoot at each other in broad daylight, and Dick Tiny thinks this is a good thing.

Everybody ended up alive is a bad thing? What's a good thing to you, this guy murdering this woman and perhaps never getting caught?
 

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Everybody ended up alive is a bad thing? What's a good thing to you, this guy murdering this woman and perhaps never getting caught?

Actually, what would have been a good thing would have been neither of these jackasses having a gun to start with.

That would have been a good thing.

Now, if a couple of anti-Choice crazies perform a 126th Trimester abortion on each other, I'm down with that, too.
 

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Actually, what would have been a good thing would have been neither of these jackasses having a gun to start with.

That would have been a good thing.

Now, if a couple of anti-Choice crazies perform a 126th Trimester abortion on each other, I'm down with that, too.

But this is the point we have been trying to make to you on the left. If firearms were difficult or nearly impossible to retain, the only guy in this scenario that would have had a gun was the murderer, because all the laws or government harassment in the world won't stop them from getting a firearm in the US. It would only have stopped the good guy with the gun that stopped a murder.
 

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But this is the point we have been trying to make to you on the left. If firearms were difficult or nearly impossible to retain, the only guy in this scenario that would have had a gun was the murderer, because all the laws or government harassment in the world won't stop them from getting a firearm in the US. It would only have stopped the good guy with the gun that stopped a murder.

Actually, it would have stopped both of them, because most gun crimes are not committed by career criminals.

This sounds like a guy who was just upset his girlfriend was aborting his fetus. Not a career, lifelong criminal who had a gun from the black market, but a guy who made a bad decision...one me might not have made had ne not had easy access to a gun.
 

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Actually, it would have stopped both of them, because most gun crimes are not committed by career criminals.

This sounds like a guy who was just upset his girlfriend was aborting his fetus. Not a career, lifelong criminal who had a gun from the black market, but a guy who made a bad decision...one me might not have made had ne not had easy access to a gun.

He doesn't have to be a career criminal to be a criminal, just like people who buy illegal drugs are in many cases not career criminals. Illegal guns will always be available to those who want them, but only the law abiding won't seek one. Somebody willing to go to the extremes of murder doesn't give a damn whether he has an illegal gun or not.
 

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He doesn't have to be a career criminal to be a criminal, just like people who buy illegal drugs are in many cases not career criminals. Illegal guns will always be available to those who want them, but only the law abiding won't seek one. Somebody willing to go to the extremes of murder doesn't give a damn whether he has an illegal gun or not.

You miss the point entirely.

Okay. World without guns. The guy who is upset that his girlfriend is getting an abortion does not have a gun in the nightstand. He might be upset enough to be angry about it, but he isn't going to try to find a reliable illegal gun dealer and chuck out a few thousand bucks to get an illegal gun.

The point is, most murders happen because a gun is readily available in a stressful situation. So instead of using fists to resolve a problem, guns end up getting involved. Most homicides are people who know each other, not a criminal taking out a stranger.

The rest of the industrialized world has figured this out, which is why we have 19,000 homicides a year and they all have less than 1000.
 

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You miss the point entirely.

Okay. World without guns. The guy who is upset that his girlfriend is getting an abortion does not have a gun in the nightstand. He might be upset enough to be angry about it, but he isn't going to try to find a reliable illegal gun dealer and chuck out a few thousand bucks to get an illegal gun.

The point is, most murders happen because a gun is readily available in a stressful situation. So instead of using fists to resolve a problem, guns end up getting involved. Most homicides are people who know each other, not a criminal taking out a stranger.

The rest of the industrialized world has figured this out, which is why we have 19,000 homicides a year and they all have less than 1000.

Most criminal acts with guns are committed with an illegal firearm. Very few will use their own registered gun to commit murder outside of murder/ suicide. That would be like leaving a bread crumb trail to your door. Every gun sold in the US by a licensed dealer has to submit a fired round from that weapon for the ballistics to be entered into a national data base. If I used my firearm to commit a crime, they would be knocking on my door within hours.

Guns are not that difficult to make either. They were showing how they can be made with a 3-D printer, and the article claims that they are doing that today. Years ago one of my friends had another one of our friends who worked at a machine shop make him parts for his guns that turned his weapons from a semi-automatic to fully automatic. It was just some stupid little part.

The conclusion is that all you would do by making guns difficult or impossible to get is create a larger black market than we already have, and that only empowers the criminal and weakens victims.
 

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