Man leaving party is shot to death...can we stop the gun violence?

[Luddly Neddite]

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

Actually ... they're not.

Australia, a country of 25 million people, has almost 4 million registered firearms and two to three times that many unregistered firearms. Even the famous 'buy back' in '96 netted fewer than 800,000 firearms (about a quarter of the number estimated to have been in circulation at the time).

But don't tell that to anti gunners....they claim Australia is an anti gun paradise....

Prove it.

No one, anti or pro, said anything like that.

You constantly post these stories as though it proves that, what? Grade school kids should carry guns?

Get it through your head dumdum - guns are not banned in Australia.

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[2aguy]

Why don't you libs ever complain about car violence?. It is far more common that gun violence and we could easily stop car violence too and save money in the process.

Incredibly stupid RWNJs like you want to ban cars now?

It has always been "libs" who have worked for safety in cars and have made the changes that have lowered auto-related deaths.

What have you RWNJs done?


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Saved the free world from people like you...

 

[2aguy]

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

Actually ... they're not.

Australia, a country of 25 million people, has almost 4 million registered firearms and two to three times that many unregistered firearms. Even the famous 'buy back' in '96 netted fewer than 800,000 firearms (about a quarter of the number estimated to have been in circulation at the time).

But don't tell that to anti gunners....they claim Australia is an anti gun paradise....

Prove it.

No one, anti or pro, said anything like that.

You constantly post these stories as though it proves that, what? Grade school kids should carry guns?

Get it through your head dumdum - guns are not banned in Australia.

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Oh.....now that Australian gun control laws don't work, now you are saying they didn't ban and confiscate guns.....is that your story?

 

[miketx]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

Here we see the true mental illness of the left, on display for all to see. He says a law is not a panacea, and prohibition does not fix a problem, with which I agree, yet he will cry for gun control and or gun bans out of the other side of his mouth.

 

[2aguy]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

Here we see the true mental illness of the left, on display for all to see. He says a law is not a panacea, and prohibition does not fix a problem, with which I agree, yet he will cry for gun control and or gun bans out of the other side of his mouth.

And as I have pointed out.....each and every gun law he proposes, does nothing to stop criminals or mass shooters. They do, however, directly go after normal, law abiding people who own guns, and create legal jeopardy for those gun owners....for no discernable reason other than to make them less likely to own a gun.

 

[miketx]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

Here we see the true mental illness of the left, on display for all to see. He says a law is not a panacea, and prohibition does not fix a problem, with which I agree, yet he will cry for gun control and or gun bans out of the other side of his mouth.

And as I have pointed out.....each and every gun law he proposes, does nothing to stop criminals or mass shooters. They do, however, directly go after normal, law abiding people who own guns, and create legal jeopardy for those gun owners....for no discernable reason other than to make them less likely to own a gun.

As he says laws do not work.....

 

[Wry Catcher]

Hey, 2aguy, do you really think,,,,err,,,, believe I read any of your crap? You need meds and a good therapist.

It is obvious that you didn't...if you did you might not be as dumb as you are....especially when it comes to stupid gun laws that do nothing to stop criminals and mass shooters......but keep posting....they are very funny.

You're not only one sick puppy, you are an un or poorly educated fool. Go suck the barrel of your favorite gun, I'm sure someone so obsessed with a deadly weapon as are you, has some sexual hangups.

And there you go.......we always get there with you anti gunners...your weird, sexual fetish for guns......get help....before you hurt yourself or someone else. Guns are not sex toys...use your blow up doll, it is a lot safer....and get help.....your sexual wiring is really messed up.

You ought to not use words you don't understand, of course understanding is not the forte of the willfully ignorant and barely literate.

You are obsessed with guns, it is a sickness of the head, and as the man said, the first step is to admit how F'd up you are.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

No....people like you think that banning guns for law abiding people will lower the crime rate.

We have shown you over and over again that this is not true, but in fact increases the crime rate in most countries.....and in all countries the criminals still get guns.

In fact, we have shown you over and over again that as more Americans bought, and actually carried guns.....our gun murder rate went down 42%...our gun crime rate went down 75%...our violent crime rate went down 72%.......

That means everything you believe about guns, and everything you say about guns is wrong.....

Britain banned guns...their gun crime rate has been going up...it was up 42% last year...in some areas of Britain their crime rate is up 90%....and across Britain their crime rate is up 25%.....



Please...be brave....tell us which gun control options you think will work. Since I have asked this question over the last few months, none of you anti gunners have been willing to engage in the discussion...since you know that none of the gun control you want, or that Britain, Australia, or Europe actually have, has stopped their criminals and terrorists from getting guns......

I have posted my opinion on gun control often enough only the willfully ignorant have not retained it. In short: To own, possess or have custody or control of a gun, one should be

• Licensed after proper training and a background check
• All guns need to be registered and insured
• Each state should have the right to impose or not impose these conditions, which cannot be extended to any other state without a compact.

I'm sure you have a way to get criminals to follow your new laws,


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Well, you sense is absolutely wrong. It's why we are issued handcuffs, to detain those who violate the law. That maybe a very difficult concept for you to comprehend.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

Here we see the true mental illness of the left, on display for all to see. He says a law is not a panacea, and prohibition does not fix a problem, with which I agree, yet he will cry for gun control and or gun bans out of the other side of his mouth.

And as I have pointed out.....each and every gun law he proposes, does nothing to stop criminals or mass shooters. They do, however, directly go after normal, law abiding people who own guns, and create legal jeopardy for those gun owners....for no discernable reason other than to make them less likely to own a gun.

As he says laws do not work.....

Anarchy - the state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority - does?
You truly are stupid miketx.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

we already have reasonable gun control and quite a bit of unreasonable gun control as well

 

[Wry Catcher]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

we already have reasonable gun control and quite a bit of unreasonable gun control as well

interesting comment, unreasonable gun control means exactly what?

That too many innocent people die or are disfigured by guns for lack of gun control?

Or, knowing the source, more guns under less government oversight is reasonable.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

we already have reasonable gun control and quite a bit of unreasonable gun control as well

interesting comment, unreasonable gun control means exactly what?

That too many innocent people die or are disfigured by guns for lack of gun control?

Or, knowing the source, more guns under less government oversight is reasonable.

we don't need any more gun control we need to lock up people who commit crimes with guns for a long time

and IMO it is unreasonable to ban one particular style of semiautomatic rifle
it is unreasonable to tell any law abiding gun owner what size magazine he can buy

and in case you haven't noticed our murder rate is dropping even though more people than ever have concealed carry permits, violent crime in general is dropping as well

accidental gun deaths are also on the downswing

 

[2aguy]

Stealing is banned, by law; so is rape, sexually battery, domestic violence and other behaviors penalized in penal codes around the world.

A law is not a panacea, prohibition does not fix a problem; it can sometimes exacerbate one. Thus, rational people believe gun control, rather than banishment is an inoculation against the disease of gun violation, not a cure.

Irrational people believe inoculations don't prevent disease they create other problems - sometimes one in a million is enough for them to disdain common and effective means of controlling disease. Thus we see ad nausea the obsessive posts by 2aguy and his irrational approach to a serious problem.

we already have reasonable gun control and quite a bit of unreasonable gun control as well

interesting comment, unreasonable gun control means exactly what?

That too many innocent people die or are disfigured by guns for lack of gun control?

Or, knowing the source, more guns under less government oversight is reasonable.

What lack of gun control........we have about 20,000 gun control laws on the books...and our accident rate with guns is going down as more people by and actually carry guns...

15 million people now carry guns for self defense......our accidental gun accident number for 2015...489

Our accidental car death rate...36,161.....

 

[grainbely]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

 

[2aguy]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

Which B.S., brainiac.........the guy was shot in gun controlled Australia...gun crime is increasing all over Australia.......Australia is the role model for anti gunners here in the U.S. and gun control in Australia is failing.....

So take your holier posting than thou crap somewhere else if you can't deal with the truth, facts or reality.

 

[grainbely]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

Which B.S., brainiac.........the guy was shot in gun controlled Australia...gun crime is increasing all over Australia.......Australia is the role model for anti gunners here in the U.S. and gun control in Australia is failing.....

So take your holier posting than thou crap somewhere else if you can't deal with the truth, facts or reality.

Dude. Your posts are awful. Please stop..Spare us..Until you can learn to write out a thoughtful and well evidenced argument.

Basically all you do is post news links to small time gun violence and say "seeee!?" Is that all it takes for your pea brain to buy into something?

 

[2aguy]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

Which B.S., brainiac.........the guy was shot in gun controlled Australia...gun crime is increasing all over Australia.......Australia is the role model for anti gunners here in the U.S. and gun control in Australia is failing.....

So take your holier posting than thou crap somewhere else if you can't deal with the truth, facts or reality.

Dude. Your posts are awful. Please stop..Spare us..Until you can learn to write out a thoughtful and well evidenced argument.

Basically all you do is post news links to small time gun violence and say "seeee!?" Is that all it takes for your pea brain to buy into something?

No....you need to see........You have no clue what you are talking about...you have no understanding of the truth, the facts and the realities of gun ownership and gun crime in the United States or over seas.....

My posts cover topics on guns and gun control......the post above is just one such post..others deal with actual statistics from research from government and private sector researchers, from the CDC and the FBI to private studies or studies funded by the Department of Justice and the CDC......

Catch up...your posts will be more relevant...

 

[2aguy]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

Which B.S., brainiac.........the guy was shot in gun controlled Australia...gun crime is increasing all over Australia.......Australia is the role model for anti gunners here in the U.S. and gun control in Australia is failing.....

So take your holier posting than thou crap somewhere else if you can't deal with the truth, facts or reality.

Dude. Your posts are awful. Please stop..Spare us..Until you can learn to write out a thoughtful and well evidenced argument.

Basically all you do is post news links to small time gun violence and say "seeee!?" Is that all it takes for your pea brain to buy into something?

Okay, dude....let's throw down......let's here you wonderful insights into the gun debate............waiting......waiting.....

 

[grainbely]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

Which B.S., brainiac.........the guy was shot in gun controlled Australia...gun crime is increasing all over Australia.......Australia is the role model for anti gunners here in the U.S. and gun control in Australia is failing.....

So take your holier posting than thou crap somewhere else if you can't deal with the truth, facts or reality.

Dude. Your posts are awful. Please stop..Spare us..Until you can learn to write out a thoughtful and well evidenced argument.

Basically all you do is post news links to small time gun violence and say "seeee!?" Is that all it takes for your pea brain to buy into something?

Okay, dude....let's throw down......let's here you wonderful insights into the gun debate............waiting......waiting.....

The only point I've asserted here is that your posts suck and I laid out why a few times now. You did not defend or refute so I guess you know it's true as well. [emoji23]

 

[grainbely]

A man was leaving a party in Australia when he was ambushed and shot to death....Australian police believe it may have been a love triangle...

Mystery behind deadly Melbourne shooting

A YOUNG Melbourne man said goodbye to his friends after a party, opened a garage door and was gunned down, dying in the street as his killers fled.

As police hunt for the gunmen, mystery around the shooting has mounted, with police investigating whether a love triangle was the motive.

The Herald Sun reports police are investigating a possible fight at the home in Keysborough, in Melbourne’s southeast, after it was revealed one person started a relationship with another person’s ex-girlfriend. However, the man who died was not involved.

Two of his friends were also hit by bullets when the gunmen fired at them through the rear garage door of the house on Tuesday night.

A 23-year-old man received a gunshot wound to the arm and a 22-year-old man was hit in the leg. Both are in a stable condition.

Wait a minute....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...right?

This is the same b.s. as the other thread. You must have nothing better to do than spam the board with content void garbage. The burden of proof lies with you, the op, who is trying to make some point here. Unfortunately for your sake, there is no proof and you're a walking biased fallacy.

Is this really the quality of content on us message board? If so I will find another. I've done it before. Its possible a place where grown ups discuss national problems in a respectable manner with bias in check DOESN'T EXIST.

Which B.S., brainiac.........the guy was shot in gun controlled Australia...gun crime is increasing all over Australia.......Australia is the role model for anti gunners here in the U.S. and gun control in Australia is failing.....

So take your holier posting than thou crap somewhere else if you can't deal with the truth, facts or reality.

Dude. Your posts are awful. Please stop..Spare us..Until you can learn to write out a thoughtful and well evidenced argument.

Basically all you do is post news links to small time gun violence and say "seeee!?" Is that all it takes for your pea brain to buy into something?

No....you need to see........You have no clue what you are talking about...you have no understanding of the truth, the facts and the realities of gun ownership and gun crime in the United States or over seas.....

My posts cover topics on guns and gun control......the post above is just one such post..others deal with actual statistics from research from government and private sector researchers, from the CDC and the FBI to private studies or studies funded by the Department of Justice and the CDC......

Catch up...your posts will be more relevant...

You have other posts with stats. Ok. This belongs in those threads then. It's not evidence by ANY means on its own. You get that right?